mini girl Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I am sending one of my pups to Melbourne from Brisbane - the new owner to be asked about vaccination and I told him I now use Nobivac for my dogs as it means immunity quicker and has not let me down and also cheaper in the long run as only one more shot is needed. The owner to be came back and said that his vet has advised him that the old vaccine is better for Victoria as there is a high incidence of parvo there and Nobivac is not strong enough for the parvo????? That means the old 3 vaccination method and the pup not being able to go out till after 16 weeks - I seem to remember a threat on this before and someone saying that Nobivac has to be bought bulk or something and some vets don't want to bother doing this - I don't mind what immunisation the people use just as long as the pup is vaccinated and gets his full immunity. My pups had their first immunisations 7 and a bit weeks. My vet is very good and a really up to date young man - I can't help but wonder if some of the older vets just don't want to give something a bit newer a try or dare I even think it - after the extra money for another immunisation. But has anyone any thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lils mum Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I am sending one of my pups to Melbourne from Brisbane - the new owner to be asked about vaccination and I told him I now use Nobivac for my dogs as it means immunity quicker and has not let me down and also cheaper in the long run as only one more shot is needed. The owner to be came back and said that his vet has advised him that the old vaccine is better for Victoria as there is a high incidence of parvo there and Nobivac is not strong enough for the parvo????? That means the old 3 vaccination method and the pup not being able to go out till after 16 weeks - I seem to remember a threat on this before and someone saying that Nobivac has to be bought bulk or something and some vets don't want to bother doing this - I don't mind what immunisation the people use just as long as the pup is vaccinated and gets his full immunity. My pups had their first immunisations 7 and a bit weeks. My vet is very good and a really up to date young man - I can't help but wonder if some of the older vets just don't want to give something a bit newer a try or dare I even think it - after the extra money for another immunisation. But has anyone any thoughts on this? I suspect the company will only speak directly to vets - but you could try calling them on 1 800 033 461 to ask....???? you could also ask your vet to give you a copy of the product info from the packaging... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Baggins Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Where Abouts is the pup going? I assume it's the up the nose one? The pup does not have to stay until 16 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini girl Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 Where Abouts is the pup going? I assume it's the up the nose one? The pup does not have to stay until 16 weeks. Going to a suburb of Melbourne - no not an issue of staying with me till 16 weeks - he is going to his new owner at 9 weeks - his vet just does not use the new Nobivac vaccine - but the older one where they have the 3 needles - Nobivac consists of a needle and also some extra in the noose - I think the nose drops is for kennel cough!! but not 100% on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I've always used the three injection course but the pup has ALWAYS been allowed to go out and socialise at 8 weeks after only one injection (at 6 weeks). With the new owner giving the next two at around 10 and 14 weeks. I have not heard of any "higher" incidence of Parvo in Victoria than anywhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Sounds like the vet likes the extra money for 3 vaccines! Nobivac has been used here for years without issues. Yes, KC is the one up the nose, not parvo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuna Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I enquired about using this method for my pups but my vet clinic in surburban Melbourne doesn't use it. I didn't speak to the vet spoke to receptionist/vet nurse. From that conversation I gathered that they were sticking to tried and tested method rather than introduce a new method that they weren't 100% confident with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Baggins Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Craigieburn Vet Practice uses it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumabaar Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) There is no 'strength' when it comes to a vaccine. They all work by putting in a foreign body into the dogs blood stream and relies on the dogs immune system to recognize it and react to it causing it to 'remember' that foreign body and other foreign bodies that have similar properties (namely parvo). Its an all or nothing event- ether the dog reacts and forms immunity or it doesn't. I have happily used Nobivac for two litters without problem. I dont generally do the kennel cough component because they appear to be constantly exposed and so have developed natural immunity. In the situations where I have done it I have left a two week break before doing it to try and get a good immune response. Like people the immune system can miss things if they are being challenged by too many things at once. Edited December 17, 2011 by Jumabaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 have a read of this, it suggests one vaccine at 12 weeks will offer the best cover for parvo http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/taking-the-risk-out-of-puppy-shots/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini girl Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 have a read of this, it suggests one vaccine at 12 weeks will offer the best cover for parvo http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/taking-the-risk-out-of-puppy-shots/ Very interesting stuff many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 have a read of this, it suggests one vaccine at 12 weeks will offer the best cover for parvo http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/taking-the-risk-out-of-puppy-shots/ Very interesting stuff many thanks I spoke to my vet last night re this vaccination and he tells me it is more expensive and that a young puppy will require a seies of TWO vacinations to be adequately covered. And that the adult is okay with the three year vacs but not a puppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumabaar Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) have a read of this, it suggests one vaccine at 12 weeks will offer the best cover for parvo http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/taking-the-risk-out-of-puppy-shots/ Very interesting stuff many thanks I spoke to my vet last night re this vaccination and he tells me it is more expensive and that a young puppy will require a seies of TWO vacinations to be adequately covered. And that the adult is okay with the three year vacs but not a puppy. Nope it is defiantly possible for pups to be vaccinated just once at 12 weeks. The holistic vet I use it always trying to convince me to just do the one at 12 weeks, but I like my pups out at 10 weeks. She has however done one shot with other pups and titre tested to ensure it works, and it does. That study is really interesting in the link- it would be interesting to read the actual paper so of to do my own detection work! Also I will now only be titre testing at 1year of age as most of my dogs and the dogs she treats still have good, measurable levels of immunity. Also no great difference in price, especially since you are not vaccinating as often so I think what was a $10 price difference one way is a big difference after that! Edited December 22, 2011 by Jumabaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I think it is down to the license for the vaccs that makes the vets say it should be done twice, rather then how effective a particular vaccine schedule is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumabaar Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I think it is down to the license for the vaccs that makes the vets say it should be done twice, rather then how effective a particular vaccine schedule is. Yes- to do anything not listed on the packet an owner needs informed consent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Baggins Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 LizT ask Denise about it. I do know of pups getting kennel cough after the up the nose vaccination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 LizT ask Denise about it. I do know of pups getting kennel cough after the up the nose vaccination. Yes, all in all I think it does come down to the health of the immune system and how it deals with the vaccination, whichever is used. I'm sure you've seen many a vaccinated child come down with say, whooping cough for eg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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