skyehaven Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I had a bitch have an ultra-sound a while ago, no puppies seen, vet quite confident there was nothing, she doesn't look any different, but does have a little milk (probably a bit of phantom)? Would have been due 18 Dec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I had a similar situation two years ago with one of my girls. Scan showed no puppies but she went into a nesting frenzy on her due date, although she had no nipple development as such. However there was no puppy. Scans can be tricky things. Hilaryo had both a vet and a repo specialist scan her bitch and both announced that there were two puppies, at the c-section they had four! However recently I was told only one puppy on a scan and one puppy is definitely was. Always a good idea to keep an eye on her when her due date comes round JIC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Prepare the whelping box and be ready from the week before and xray her on the 15th or 16th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisart Dobes Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 X-Ray Yep, agree totally ours will do x-ray from day 53 on but the closer the better as you have a better chance of seeing all the skeletons - can be hard if they are all on top of each other but all you want to know is if there are any there so def x-ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trisven13 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I'm obviously no expert being that we're about to have our second letter but I think that Pav Lova's suggestion is a great one - it is what I would have done if Marie hadn't had a second positive ultrasound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowanbree Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Scan done at 28 days I think, no pups. Very nearly sent her home as she was a leased bitch. She had 6 pups which is a huge litter for a sheltie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdoubleJ Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 We had our girl booked in for scan with our usual vet but he had been called out so a new vet did the scan. Well she tried and tried but couldn't find anything, tol us to come back after day 28..............she was already on about day 30! So took her back to our usual vet the next day - he went zap zap and said 8!!! She had 9!!! We didn't pay for the first vets opinion :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordogs Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Hey, you are all giving me hope for my girl ( due Christmas day from mating ) she had an ultrasound at 28 days and vet said no puppies BUT she is a different shape so I will :crossfingers: and hope that he was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I would just ultrasound again the week before she is due. At that stage they would definitely not miss a puppy and it is a lot cheaper than an x-ray. I have no idea why everyone on here is so crazy about x-rays. Our vets are breeder specialists and never do them. A late ultrasound will tell you a lot more about a possible singleton than an x-ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Had a scan done on due day and vet said maybe 3, she had 6 and didn't really look pregnant, just a bit of a milk bar. This litter were carried really high up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I had a lab bitch come to stay here while the owner was ill. Ultra sound was completed just before she arrived and said no pregnancy. I went shopping one day and came home to find a new lab baby under the caravan in a hole with its Mum. I would get the whelping box ready - in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordogs Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Yes Steve, I will either just go ahead and have the whelping box and everything else prepared or have her ultasounded close to the due date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Danni Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I would just ultrasound again the week before she is due. At that stage they would definitely not miss a puppy and it is a lot cheaper than an x-ray. I have no idea why everyone on here is so crazy about x-rays. Our vets are breeder specialists and never do them. A late ultrasound will tell you a lot more about a possible singleton than an x-ray. We ultrasound to merely check and confirm pregnancy. We xray to get a good picture of how many pups we have due. When your girl gives you litters of 11 and 13, it's handy to know if there is still one to come that might be in distress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisart Dobes Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 X-ray's alot cheaper than ultrasound here - but thats not why I do them (we ultrasound at about day 35 because I need to book in time off work & x-ray at about day 54 as our girls have all gone on day 59) - we routinely get litters of 10 - 14 and I like to have as close an idea of exactly how many there are in there so that I can know when to act and how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertybrook Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I use ultrasounds to confirm pregnancy, our last litter the ultrasound at 4 weeks showed 4 pups, she went onto have 8,three days early !! friends bitch had ultrasound no puppies seen, 5 days before her "due date" the bitch looked a bit lop sided all of a sudden other than that she didnt changed at all, xray done revealed 1 pup, she had a ceasar a couple of days later healthy boy puppy. I would xray just to put my mind at ease :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I would just ultrasound again the week before she is due. At that stage they would definitely not miss a puppy and it is a lot cheaper than an x-ray. I have no idea why everyone on here is so crazy about x-rays. Our vets are breeder specialists and never do them. A late ultrasound will tell you a lot more about a possible singleton than an x-ray. Same here dancinbc. When I suggested an X-ray to determine my singletons size my Vet said there was no need as an X-ray isn't a good indication of size. A junior vet scanned her at 28 days, found one pup. Asked me to come back two days later and let the Senior vet, who was away and is very proficient with scanning (and I think therein lies the secret - expertise is essential in that field) he only found one and the day we had her prog tested they gave me a free scan to check on the pup (s) still only one. But it was awesome watching her tiny heart beat. She was born that afternoon. I think some vets just aren't very good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I would just ultrasound again the week before she is due. At that stage they would definitely not miss a puppy and it is a lot cheaper than an x-ray. I have no idea why everyone on here is so crazy about x-rays. Our vets are breeder specialists and never do them. A late ultrasound will tell you a lot more about a possible singleton than an x-ray. Same here dancinbc. When I suggested an X-ray to determine my singletons size my Vet said there was no need as an X-ray isn't a good indication of size. A junior vet scanned her at 28 days, found one pup. Asked me to come back two days later and let the Senior vet, who was away and is very proficient with scanning (and I think therein lies the secret - expertise is essential in that field) he only found one and the day we had her prog tested they gave me a free scan to check on the pup (s) still only one. But it was awesome watching her tiny heart beat. She was born that afternoon. I think some vets just aren't very good at it. That could be the problem. Our vets are usually no more than one puppy out on a count at 5-6 weeks. It might be different with really big litters but I have still never heard of our vets x-raying pregnant bitches. They only charge about $50 for an ultrasound, don't need to shave hair and if re done in the final days the you can see exactly where each puppy is lying and how big it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 My bitch was sent to her breeders to have a litter. She was mated quite late in her season. Got her xrayed vet said no puppies. She got flow back to me, got shown (had large mammary development but she had full on phantoms so nothing unusual for her)then drove 750kms home. I felt something was different but was told I was being neurotic. Three days later at day 63 from her last mating on pup was born, luckily no issues as I had no idea she was having a baby. If I think there is something a little different or not quite right I would U/S or Xray and keep a very close eye on them as they can hide them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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