Double Lab Love Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I was of two minds in posting bc of the general opinion of dog parks (largely justified by alot of idiot owners) but felt strongly that I should post this as a warning to anyone on these forums who frequents this dog park and also to ask / get advice if we have taken all the necessary steps to report / prevent this. We rarely visit this particular dog park (western sydney) however where up early around 7.00am Sunday and decided as we were driving past and it looked fairly empty it might be a good idea to let our two burn off a bit of steam... as we got to the gate there were a couple of people with dogs hanging around and about 7 dogs in the park - two having a barking "play fight" - no aggro whatsoever... As we near the gate Tango lets out a few excited barks when he sees the other dogs as does Tippi - just to add we are working on their on lead behaviour (meeting with Steve K9Pro in two weeks time) but it's a work in progress and another issue.... OH goes to go through the gate and this irate guy rushes up and starts yelling at OH and I about our agressive dogs barking and carrying on... apparently this guys lives across the road from the dog park and HAS NO DOG... He heard the two other dogs play fighting and rushed over the tell us all off for the noise factor - and we just had the bad luck to be there for the first time in forever and of course with two excited dogs. OH goes into the dog park and I am still outside with Tippi with another guy and his dog just settling Tippi down before we go in.... Just to note at this stage Tippi has barked TWICE and Tango THREE barks and once in the dog park not a peep out of them - too busy running around with the other few dogs there - and NO NOISE at all from any dogs... This is what has upset me - this guys bascially yelled at us saying he was sick of the noise over the last few months, sick of the dog fights (OK that morning was fine but I haven't been there for 2-3 months) He lives across the road and has had enough AND has complained to the ranger several times and said - in front of me and the other guy - that if it doesn't stop he will get up early one morning and PUT BAITS IN THE DOG PARK AND JUST SEE IF HE DOESN'T. He then storms off leaving me very upset and horrfified that someone could be so aggressive and hateful to threaten dog owners in the only designated fenced and safe spot for dogs in this area... I know how hard local residents petitioned council to get this area fenced about 12 months ago and am so upset about what happended yesterday.. So OH and I spend all day Sunday trying to get through to the ranger with no luck OH trying again this morning... Bascically what we have reported is his threats / alerted the ranger to the fact that he would be known to them (his earlier noise complaints - so they would know where he lived))and if any dog dies in the park chances it would be him... BUT what else should we do.... report it to the police / other authorities ??? I would never forgive myself something happended to a dog there and I hadn't done enough... I have been stressing about all today as alot of people use that park... I dont' know about the legalities of posting the dog park location here so as to further alert poeple maybe thru FB etc ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan's Mum Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Hmm, sounds like you have done all you can do. Maybe if people want to know the park in question they can PM you. Definitely avoid this particular park for a while. Good luck with your visit with K9 Pro though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I'd post the location of the park, so users can choose to avoid the nutter or be on the look out for baits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Lab Love Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Hmm, sounds like you have done all you can do. Maybe if people want to know the park in question they can PM you. Definitely avoid this particular park for a while. Good luck with your visit with K9 Pro though Thanks Brennan's Mum - we rarely go there (unless it is empty) I must admit but my concern is that alot of other people do Yep - Steve is awesome - we saw him 12 months ago and he was just briliiant - have a few furbies with their on lead behaviour - Tippi in particular - and want to nip it in the bud early... I just hope I have done enough and am happy to be PM'd or to put the park location out on the froum if I am allowed ??? I would much rather err on the side of caution as this guy was NOT joking - he was deadly serious and I think that is what scared me the most... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Hmm, sounds like you have done all you can do. Maybe if people want to know the park in question they can PM you. Definitely avoid this particular park for a while. Good luck with your visit with K9 Pro though Thanks Brennan's Mum - we rarely go there (unless it is empty) I must admit but my concern is that alot of other people do Yep - Steve is awesome - we saw him 12 months ago and he was just briliiant - have a few furbies with their on lead behaviour - Tippi in particular - and want to nip it in the bud early... I just hope I have done enough and am happy to be PM'd or to put the park location out on the froum if I am allowed ??? I would much rather err on the side of caution as this guy was NOT joking - he was deadly serious and I think that is what scared me the most... There's no reason why you can't post the location as a warning for dog owners. There's nothing illegal about doing so and no one is going to sue Troy over it, it's a public place and it's not like you are bagging a breeder or a dog food company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chezy Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) I def would post the park, this does not id the man , I know the Windsor one has several houses near it , I don't go often as there are too many dogs there most times , but if sm1 had threat to bait i def would not go Edited November 28, 2011 by Chezy & Chopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy82 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 With a threat like that I'd call the cops, just to let them know. Then if anything happens they will know who it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mita Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) You are right. The bloke's threat to lay baits in the dog park, should be reported to authorities. Would the other guy who heard the threat, along with you, back that he heard it, too? Edited November 28, 2011 by mita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Lab Love Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 You are right. The bloke's threat to pay baits in the dog park, should be reported to authorities. Would the other guy who heard the threat, along with you, back that he heard it, too? Mita - I don't know the other guy at all but his comment to me was that it's an approved dog park so this nutter can complain all he likes to the ranger re the noise but the council appoved the park and location in the first place. I guess if I knew he was I am sure he would verify but have no way of getting in contact with him. Pav Lova - thank you wasn't too sure about breaching forum rules. The park is question is: Jamison Park Racecourse Rd Jamisontown NSW 2750 Sign posted area behind the netball courts,next to Racecourse Rd Jamisontown. I am also thinking of reporting it to the poloce as well - poeple like this make me sick - there are so many rules/reg about where dogs can / can't go and to have them threatended in the one place that they should feel safe makes me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin-Genie Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Even though it is a council approved dog park, people can still complain about the noise. I don't let my dogs bark in the dog park. Also, noise can be very subjective. For example, if this guy has issues at work, he might be redirecting his anger at even a minor noise. The scary part is that if he makes a complaint and the rangers tell him his complaint is not valid, he would try and fix this perceived issue himself, ie by baiting. Someone I know had the same issue with their dogs. Neighbour complained of barking (didn't want the dogs to bark at all), ranger came in, consulted all the other neighbours and said the barking was at an acceptable limit. The neighbour then went ahead and baited the dogs to stop them barking. People are crazy and they do crazy things. I would definitely report to the police. In fact I would have told him when he said this that I would report his threat. That might have stopped him from carrying out his threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I would report him to the police, he made a threat, and used threatening behaviour to you. If they go around and have a word it might make him think again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacqui835 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Definitely report him - you can't threaten to poison people's dogs, there are avenues to go through if you have a problem, and if you're the only one with the problem (ie the council deem you unreasonable) well then maybe you need to consider moving or something... I mean if he can't stand to hear 2 dog barks, he probably needs to move to the middle of nowhere. If it had been me I would have thanked him for his confession as now if anything happens (and you report this incident), they'll know who to go to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimiss Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) It's such a shame there are such negative people in the world, especially to the extent of threatening to harm and lay bait around!!! I think you did the right thing to caution others and speaking with the ranger. Police notification is also a good idea even for the fact that they have him on the books incase he offends again. *ETA - Grammar Edited November 28, 2011 by minimiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keira&Phoenix Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Did you see which house he went into? Just so you have his address, the more info you can provide to the council and the police (if you report him) the better. If you report him to the police they may decide to make a quick visit to him and have a chat and that may stop him considering using baits. Maybe print out some flyers to post near the gates to the dog park in question, warning users that a neighbour of the park threatened to lay baits and for them to be very careful, look out for anything unusual and take their dog straight to the vet if they have been there and it starts to act unwell. At least with flyers up users of the park will see them as they walk in and can make a decision whether to use the park or not etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvsdogs Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I would definitely notify the police, it would be dreadful if a dog became ill or died if he took out his threat, but what if a young child got hold of a bait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Lab Love Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Even though it is a council approved dog park, people can still complain about the noise. I don't let my dogs bark in the dog park. Also, noise can be very subjective. For example, if this guy has issues at work, he might be redirecting his anger at even a minor noise. The scary part is that if he makes a complaint and the rangers tell him his complaint is not valid, he would try and fix this perceived issue himself, ie by baiting. Someone I know had the same issue with their dogs. Neighbour complained of barking (didn't want the dogs to bark at all), ranger came in, consulted all the other neighbours and said the barking was at an acceptable limit. The neighbour then went ahead and baited the dogs to stop them barking. People are crazy and they do crazy things. I would definitely report to the police. In fact I would have told him when he said this that I would report his threat. That might have stopped him from carrying out his threat. Odin-Genie... I agree totally with what you have said above... He struck me as someone who has been complaining for a while and has decided stuff this I am going to take matters into my own hands soon... I agree re dogs barking - this is a new development for my two- Tango's is an excitement thing and Tippi is more defensive hence why we are seeing Steve as I don't think that is acceptable behaviour and want to nip it in the bud.. My prob is I don't know have bad things have been over the last few months re the noise / fighting as I haven't been going there...I must admit for the small amount of noise over the hour i was there i did think it was an overeaction.... BUT who knows what has gone on in the past and i guess he may have small children / work long hours etc and it was early on a Sunday... BUT that is no excuse to go around and threaten to bait dogs in a dog park - which in itself is a criminal offence... so that's why I think OH and I decided to report to the police when we get home.... Forewarned is forearmed... it makes me sick to think that here are such horrible people in the world that would go to such an extent - surely a more diplomatic approach would have worked... The flyers are an excellent idea and i did briefly think of that today as a way of warning people what he might be up to..... I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't had a run in with other people there in the past so they would know who he is and maybe where he lives bc I unfortunately didn't see which house he went into... Thanks you all for your support/advice..... Still horrifid that people can be so vindictive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I agree with the others, name the park because you'd feel awful if something bad happened to someone else's dog. Report to police and RSPCA (responsible for prevention of cruelty to animals). And email the council - and complain about not being able to get the ranger. I admit 7am Sunday morning - barking dogs might be a bit hard to take for people who like to party Saturday nights, but his reaction is over the top. But horse racing people start much earlier than that, every morning, so he should be grateful its only a 7am start and not a 4am start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Lab Love Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Just thinking about the flyers.... am going to try and make a few up on the QT at work and run them around to the park tonite when i get home.. Could I have a few suggestions on what to put on them ?? Bit clueless like that... Luvsdogs ALOT of kids at that park too A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Lab Love Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 I agree with the others, name the park because you'd feel awful if something bad happened to someone else's dog. Report to police and RSPCA (responsible for prevention of cruelty to animals). And email the council - and complain about not being able to get the ranger. I admit 7am Sunday morning - barking dogs might be a bit hard to take for people who like to party Saturday nights, but his reaction is over the top. But horse racing people start much earlier than that, every morning, so he should be grateful its only a 7am start and not a 4am start. Mrs Rusty Bucket - I used to be one of those late night party people until I got the Labs and that all changed BIG time Hence being up and about at 7.00am on a SUNDAY :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Lab Love Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 SOrry for overkill but I am leaving work soon... Have just done this - do you think it would be OK ? On A4 paper Please be aware that there is a local resident threatening to leave bait around due to excessive barking / noise.. This was told to park members early Sunday morning. Please be vigilant in checking the grounds daily and keeping an eye on your dogs… this was not perceived as an idle threat. RANGER HAS BEEN NOTIFIED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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