stone Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Just received my e copy of National Dog & was happy/pleased/heartened to read that D.O.L is no longer automatically accepting applications for breeder memberships/litter postings for breeds considered to be exploited. Prefixes need to have been active for at least two years & dogs have to have been involved in ANKC sanctioned activities at least once in the last three years. Conformation, agility, trialling, obedience etc. before breeder/litter listing applications will be considered. As DOL is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, litter listing service in Oz, I for one congratulate them for such a positive move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonecutter Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 This sounds like a great move! To clarify - say I've been showing or doing another ANKC for 2-3 yrs (as an individual) and decide to breed, I register a prefix but only 6 months after registration, I have a litter - I cannot register to be on DOL or advertise any limited reg puppies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stone Posted November 20, 2011 Author Share Posted November 20, 2011 This sounds like a great move! To clarify - say I've been showing or doing another ANKC for 2-3 yrs (as an individual) and decide to breed, I register a prefix but only 6 months after registration, I have a litter - I cannot register to be on DOL or advertise any limited reg puppies? The breeds listed are Amstaff Bernese Mountain Dog British Bulldog CKCS Chihuahua Dogue De Bordeaux French Bulldog Great Dane Labrador Poodle -toy & miniature Staffordshire Bull Terrier West Highland White. I assume these are the current popular breed for bucks victims. As for whether or not other/every breed is subject to the same criterior or whether a regular showie of 3 or more years of the listed breeds recently granted a prefix would be given special considerations? I have no idea You would need to approach the management of DOL for an answer to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Excellant News! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonecutter Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Thanks stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullbreedlover Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Excellant News! X 2 Great stuff D O L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainy Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Excellant News! X 2 Great stuff D O L. X3 Great move troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D & D Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 This sounds like a great move! To clarify - say I've been showing or doing another ANKC for 2-3 yrs (as an individual) and decide to breed, I register a prefix but only 6 months after registration, I have a litter - I cannot register to be on DOL or advertise any limited reg puppies? This conversation came up (in another thread) early in the year when the ruling was brought in. My thoughts at the time were this There's nothing stopping a new breeder contacting Dogz, explaining their situation (new breeder, they have shown their dogs, mentored by xxx breeder, member of zzz clubs, whatever else they think is relevant) and let the site owners decide. The rules say they are not automatically accepting, says nothing about not accepting full stop. It is, after all, a privately owned site. As it turned out, the new breeder questioning the rules was accepted as a breeder member of Dogzonline and placed an ad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missymoo Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 There are still plenty of "blue" staffy kennels that are just byb with prefixes there though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Excellant News! Yep, it's shame the breed pages had to be flooded with all of those blue's. At least potential puppy buyers might stand half a chance of coming across someone who actually knows what they are doing and are committed to the breed, not the $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 This is not new, it has been like that for nearly 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I must say, even with it being in place quite a few have still been approved even thou the do not fit the new criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missymoo Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I must say, even with it being in place quite a few have still been approved even thou the do not fit the new criteria. Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I suppose it could be argued that all breeds have the potential to be 'at risk'; as it really depends on the applicant and their dealings/history with dogs. And to an extent who they know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stone Posted November 20, 2011 Author Share Posted November 20, 2011 I must say, even with it being in place quite a few have still been approved even thou the do not fit the new criteria. management discretion. If you have a complaint, complain to the management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 It was pretty brave really.Not even the Canine Councils have those kind of restrictions on their members advertising on their own website or journals. Those requirements are not part of their regs or ethics, not necessary for a member of the ANKC to be considered to be in good standing. In fact i think if the CCs did this they would be beaten up over restriction of trade and the whole pedigree dogs exposed thing. With breeder numbers Australia wide down to only 4 and a half thousand and that falling each year for Troy to go that way it demonstrates his ethics over ride his desire to consider his financial disadvantage by doing so. He can never really expect the breeder advertising side of his business will get better. Print media including those run by Dog show people with a target market of those involved in showing dont even have those restrictions on advertisers. Experience tells me it doesnt really matter who you allow to advertise someone will think they suck and its a bigger job taking on sorting out the criteria and ensuring it works the way it was intended than most understand. The fact that Troy has gone this way demonstrates how dogz has evolved and his desire to try to get it right without compromising. Someone had better nominate him for an award. www.mdbaawards.net.au Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stone Posted November 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 21, 2011 It was pretty brave really.Not even the Canine Councils have those kind of restrictions on their members advertising on their own website or journals. Those requirements are not part of their regs or ethics, not necessary for a member of the ANKC to be considered to be in good standing. In fact i think if the CCs did this they would be beaten up over restriction of trade and the whole pedigree dogs exposed thing. With breeder numbers Australia wide down to only 4 and a half thousand and that falling each year for Troy to go that way it demonstrates his ethics over ride his desire to consider his financial disadvantage by doing so. He can never really expect the breeder advertising side of his business will get better. Print media including those run by Dog show people with a target market of those involved in showing dont even have those restrictions on advertisers. Experience tells me it doesnt really matter who you allow to advertise someone will think they suck and its a bigger job taking on sorting out the criteria and ensuring it works the way it was intended than most understand. The fact that Troy has gone this way demonstrates how dogz has evolved and his desire to try to get it right without compromising. Someone had better nominate him for an award. www.mdbaawards.net.au Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonecutter Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Another quick question based on the comment about all the blue staffys - I wonder if this could be retrospectively applied as well? (Or if someone can give me the link to the old thread where it might have been discussed - I've tried searching but maybe I'm using the wrong terms) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Baggins Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 As far as the Cavs go there is still a lot of registered puppy farmers on there. :mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mita Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 A decent & sensible move. It's just as important for making a statement about what's expected in pedigree dog breeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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