blitz3 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 which is more important to do well in all breed shows or breed specific? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trisven13 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 If I had breed specific I'd be proudest of that I think. Its not really yet an option for us - there has been one time where we had a specialist Judge and all the Fauves that are shown in Australia were there and it was fabulous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
experiencedfun Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 breed specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Breed specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Danni Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) Breed specialty Edited November 17, 2011 by Miss Danni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkyTansy Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Breed specialty I'd say, but in saying that if it was an all breeds judge that is also a specialist I wouldn't be unhappy if I did well! We don't have any specialty's in WA for my breed, so I rely on clubs choosing good breed specialist judges now and then where I hope to do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjelkier Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Breed specific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zensu Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 All Breeds... we dont have breed specific shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Breed specialist JUDGES. Doesn't matter to me if it's an all breeds show, group show or breed show if the judge is an acknowledged expert in the breed. Many breed club shows are judged by NON specialist/all breed judges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayle. Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Breed specific, but at the Albury shows in August we had a state breed match (NSW, VIC and SA) as well as a breed specific grooming clinic and breed standard lecture and there were over 40 Aussies entered. And a whole lot of Aussie pet owners came for the weekend with their dogs and it was fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Daisy Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Breed Specific for me also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allerzeit Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Breed specialist JUDGES. Doesn't matter to me if it's an all breeds show, group show or breed show if the judge is an acknowledged expert in the breed. Yep, this is how I feel too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr_inoz Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 All Breeds... we dont have breed specific shows But would you prefer a judge, at an all breeds show who was a specialist in your breed? I know I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tambaqui Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I think both are just as important as each other! You'd want your dogs to do well at both level! I'd like to think a Class in Group win is almost as equivalent as a Class in Show at Specialty Level, the only difference is your dog is competing against other breeds in the same group of the same age. I own dogs that have won Classes in Show at Specialty Level and Classes in Group at All Breeds Level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I'd like to think a Class in Group win is almost as equivalent as a Class in Show at Specialty Level, the only difference is your dog is competing against other breeds in the same group of the same age. That probably depends on the strength and numbers show at speciality shows. We regularly get 200+ at specialities, making the cut in the class is more of an achievement than some group wins I've seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tambaqui Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) I'd like to think a Class in Group win is almost as equivalent as a Class in Show at Specialty Level, the only difference is your dog is competing against other breeds in the same group of the same age. That probably depends on the strength and numbers show at speciality shows. We regularly get 200+ at specialities, making the cut in the class is more of an achievement than some group wins I've seen Yes that definitely makes sense as well! Down in Victoria I found with classes in group at most shows, nearly every breed is in the group! At two specialties I have recently done, The Min Pin show had 39 entered, and the Crestie show had 56. At a recent all Breed show I just did, Saturday had 114 Toys and Sunday had 140. Two of my dogs won Classes in Group, One on Saturday and One on Sunday! So when you think about it, only 7 dogs in each group can win a Class in Group, so the odds is pretty slim, when you have numbers for a group of over 200, you'd have to be lucky and your dog is good enough to get it! Happened to me last year in November, and my dog and I still cherish it! So yes, it depends on the sizes of the show and number of dogs in each group, thats only purely why I think both is just equal, and at both levels, my dogs have done well in both of them. Edited November 17, 2011 by Tambaqui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Specialty for me, although I like my dogs to excel in both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellcara Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Defintely Specialty shows ... where the biggest breed entries are. Of course Breed Specialist judges at other shows as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stone Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 The problem with breed specialty judges is they invariably have bias to toward the "types" they breed themselves. I had a stunning red dog & during a conversation with a fellow competitor at a specialty show was told ''Nice boy, but you have wasted you time, this guy breeds blacks" Don't know if that was true or not, but blacks filled every major award. ;) But it is nice to place at a speciality show, really nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 The problem with breed specialty judges is they invariably have bias to toward the "types" they breed themselves. Wouldn't say invariably myself. The ones who know a breed inside out and have done a genuine apprenticeship almost always acknowledge the virtues of the various types within a breed. I agree that if they find an outstanding one of the type they prefer that one will go up - which I guess is only to be expected, if you prefer a certain thing and find an outstanding example of that then you're bound to favour it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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