NOCTRL Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Hi fellow DOL'ers, Let me start by saying Arby is booked into the Vet at 1745 this afternoon, but i'd like to hear some suggestions before hand... I'm sure the vet will have some idea but it can't hurt to investigate a little prior My staffy pup Arby (3.5 months) developed a rash on his entire belly on Sunday afternoon. It looks like little red pimples over his belly, arm pits and groin. It doesn't seem itchy or sore to touch and he hasn't been scratching at it or licking it. Other than this he seems normal, healthy appetite, his usual playfull self, normal poop / pee frequency. The only thing out of the ordinary that we have done was take him around to a friends palce on Saturday afternoon to socialise with their dog and kids. He played with their dog, jumped in their pool for a swim. He wasn't fed anything whilst he was there. He has had his C3 and the C5+Lepto and is due for the final one on Wednesday. It LOOKS allergy like to me however i can't see any improvement after giving him antihistamines yesterday afternoon and this morning (though it hasn't got worse, either). Has anyone seen anything similar before? Cheers, K & Arby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Chlorine in the pool, maybe ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoL Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 grass allergy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just1more Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) It might or might not be a staph infection. Both my staffy's had a skin staph infection and both presented differently. My boys started on his head in little pimple bumps and a dozen or so red yucky looking pimples on his tummy after 48 hours his whole trunk was covered in pimple bumps under his coat (he does have sensitive skin) My girl only got half the amount of bumps over her trunk and only a couple yucky pimples on her tummy. Both at around 4 months old (they are different ages, and it can't be passed on). Took them to the vet, they did a skin scrapping to confirm and put them both on anti-biotics for a week and pyohex wash. It did take a little while for the skin to heal but the vet told me it is very common for most puppies to get it but the severity is different so most people don't even notice it. It basically is the puppies own skin producing to much bacteria and getting into a small scratch on them. My girls was much milder than my boys and the vet was even going to put her on anti-biotics but decided "just incase" as I picked it up very early because I was paying attention after my boy had it. As I said, it might not be this but wouldn't hurt to ask if it is Edited November 7, 2011 by just1more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Chlorine in the pool - was he rinsed off afterwards? Contact allergy seems most likely - could be something as silly as the tiles around the pool or a different sort of grass. Antihistamine will reduce the swelling of an allergic reaction but it still takes a while for the skin to heal PLEASE do not allow the vet to vaccinate him until this reaction has gone COMPLETELY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 PLEASE do not allow the vet to vaccinate him until this reaction has gone COMPLETELY! I tend to agree - his immune system is currently fighting whatever this rash is ..having a vaccine to cope with as well is perhaps a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOCTRL Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 He did get rinsed off after his impromptu swim, he has been swimming in our pool too but i guess its possible if they maybe use a different kind of chlorine or treatment... Are there any kinds of grasses that are well known for allergies? I do hope its not a Staf infection just1more, but i will definately mention it to the vet this afternoon. Thanks for the heads up all about the Vaccination as well, i'll make sure i ask to have that held off for a little while.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOCTRL Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 For anyone interested, The Vet last night said it looks like a contact allergy with something at the house we took him to that has gotten a bit infected. She's given us some antibiotics to clear it up for him to take for 10 days. He's rather enjoying it because i feel bad about him laying spread eagle on the pavers outside with them so he's getting lots of couch and bed time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) Glad your pup is ok This is something to keep an eye on though. If it happens more than a few times I think a referral to a dermatologist would be a good idea. Staffies are predisposed to skin issues and it is best to get them diagnosed and sorted out asap. that it a one off issue for you though Edited November 7, 2011 by aussielover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Staffies are predisposed to skin issues and it is best to get them diagnosed and sorted out asap. I know a number of ethical breeders who would argue strenuously about this accusation OP - glad it's nothing major, suggest you do some research about immune systems and how to support them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) Staffies are predisposed to skin issues and it is best to get them diagnosed and sorted out asap. I know a number of ethical breeders who would argue strenuously about this accusation OP - glad it's nothing major, suggest you do some research about immune systems and how to support them. You don't think staffies are over represented when it comes to skin disease? I agree that some lines of stafford are probably not affected at all. But with all the BYBing and breeding for colour in staffies, from personal experience also having been told by a specialist, I think its hard to debate than skin issues are a problem for the breed and something that should be looked at carefully before buying a pup (I know I'll be doing the same if I ever buy another lab pup). But I would be interested to hear your views on the subject, always willing to hear other people's opinions, especially those much more experienced with the breed than myself Edited November 8, 2011 by aussielover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Staffies are predisposed to skin issues and it is best to get them diagnosed and sorted out asap. I know a number of ethical breeders who would argue strenuously about this accusation OP - glad it's nothing major, suggest you do some research about immune systems and how to support them. Gotta love those blanket statements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 MEH, on 04 November 2011 - 08:21 PM, said: Are staffies pretty infamous for allergic skin disease? This post has been edited by zayda_asher: 04 November 2011 - 10:18 PM Yes, absolutely. Sadly a lot of breeders dont take the genetic predisposition to atopy seriously This post has been edited by zayda_asher: 04 November 2011 - 10:18 PM You will find that this opinion is shared by many people including vets, vet nurses and specialists. By the way, predisposed does NOT mean that every Staffy has skin disease, so its hardly a "blanket statement: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) A more useful statement could well be - Staffies bred by people who haven't got a clue and don't care are predispsoed to skin problems but the vast majority of Staffords bred by ethical breeders do not have these issues. Edited November 8, 2011 by Sandra777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 You don't think staffies are over represented when it comes to skin disease? I think it's more that the breed itself is over represented coming from BYB's. When nursing we did see a lot of that breed in with skin problems, but none of them were even close to an okay example of the breed. Mine didn't ever had problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 A more useful statement could well be - Staffies bred by people who haven't got a clue and don't care are predispsoed to skin problems but the vast majority of Staffords bred by ethical breeders do not have these issues. I'd agree with that. I see plenty of "staffy's" with skin issues, but they are mostly that, the generic brindle mutt, the wonderful colour blue or they are poorly bred. The well bred "stafford" is far less likely to have such issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 A more useful statement could well be - Staffies bred by people who haven't got a clue and don't care are predispsoed to skin problems but the vast majority of Staffords bred by ethical breeders do not have these issues. A bit long winded don't you think Ok seriously though, point taken. Well bred Staffordshire Bull Terriers are not predisposed to skin issues. Interestingly we still see well-bred Labrador retrievers with a relatively higher incidence of skin disease. Parents who are fully health tested and have never had a litter affected by allergies can suddenly and out of the blue produce entire litters affected by allergies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentapride Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Baterial skin infection - sounds very similar to what I see from time to time. We call it puppy pox LOL - it usually rectifies itself within a week or two. Pimples will go scabby in a few days and it just works it way out without causing discomfort to the pups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOCTRL Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 Puppy pox! :D He's had a couple of antibiotics now and they seem to be on the improve. I'm sure he wasn't as worried by them as i was, but better to be safe than sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zayda_asher Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) A more useful statement could well be - Staffies bred by people who haven't got a clue and don't care are predispsoed to skin problems but the vast majority of Staffords bred by ethical breeders do not have these issues. A bit long winded don't you think Ok seriously though, point taken. Well bred Staffordshire Bull Terriers are not predisposed to skin issues. Interestingly we still see well-bred Labrador retrievers with a relatively higher incidence of skin disease. Parents who are fully health tested and have never had a litter affected by allergies can suddenly and out of the blue produce entire litters affected by allergies. There are plenty of pedigree "well bred" AmStaffs and Staffords with allergies. Plenty of people out there breeding from dogs that "0nly get a little bit itchy when they lay on grass". I've had breeders of both breeds say to my face "there are no allergies in my lines" and then go on to say "oh, she itches on the grass, but..." It's out there if you know what you are looking at / what questions to ask and its far more prevelant than people like to think. ETA: I say that as someone with a decade in AmStaffs and a long term owner of two dogs with allergic skin disease. I've spent that decade doing a lot of research on this issue. Edited November 8, 2011 by zayda_asher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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