LizT Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Just came back from the Vets after having my girl scanned at 28-31 days. The Vet could only find one single foetus but has asked me to bring her back next week for the senior Vet to check when he returns. Gee I hope there is another one hiding there somewhere? I guess now the concern is if this babe gets too large for a normal birth and also if there are going to be enough hormones for labour to be efficient. This is her first litter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Ultrasounds counts can be wrong, and bitches can absorb pups etc - Why not wait and xray at 8 week, that way you know for sure how many there will be? I know a bitch who had a singleton - delivered it naturally the day before her scheduled c-section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 Ultrasounds counts can be wrong, and bitches can absorb pups etc - Why not wait and xray at 8 week, that way you know for sure how many there will be? I know a bitch who had a singleton - delivered it naturally the day before her scheduled c-section. Do we know at what stage of pregnancy absorption takes place most commonly? I'd hate to loose this one too. I've heard of natural delivery singletons too. I think the x-ray is a good idea. I will insist on one if the vet wants to do a C-section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Off the top of my head I think they can up to day 45, after that they have to abort them to end the pregnancy or delivery as per normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 As to when is most common, no idea as each bitch and each litter would be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leema Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Hi LizT. I've just had a singleton litter, which is my second litter ever. I had an ultrasound at about 28 days, which showed she was pregnant with just one. On the advice of DOLers, I then had an x-ray to confirm numbers (as they are more accurate than ultrasounds). The x-ray was done 6 days before her due date. The purpose of the x-ray was to determine, a), if there was only one puppy and, b) the size of this puppy (to see if she would be able to deliver naturally). The x-ray showed only one puppy. The x-ray showed a puppy that was moderately large and, considering that it had a week to keep growing, it was conceivable that it would grow too big. When talking with other breeders in my breed, I was given the advice to have an elective caesar. I think it's important to talk to others in your breed to determine if singleton litters are often born with no dramas, or if they're problematic. For the few days surrounding her due date, we had progesterone testing done to determine the right time for her caesarian. Clover, however, had other ideas and came into labour. The vet was some-what on standby, so it ended up being a 'moderately planned caesar'. The puppy was born at about 300g, when the average puppy size in my breed is anywhere from 100g-230g. So, we were right, it was a big puppy, and the vet was even surprised at the time. We are happy with our decision, but it was a very worrisome two months for us, and I'm glad I have a healthy puppy and a healthy mum at the end of it. Puppy is 5 days old today. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 Hi LizT. I've just had a singleton litter, which is my second litter ever. I had an ultrasound at about 28 days, which showed she was pregnant with just one. On the advice of DOLers, I then had an x-ray to confirm numbers (as they are more accurate than ultrasounds). The x-ray was done 6 days before her due date. The purpose of the x-ray was to determine, a), if there was only one puppy and, b) the size of this puppy (to see if she would be able to deliver naturally). The x-ray showed only one puppy. The x-ray showed a puppy that was moderately large and, considering that it had a week to keep growing, it was conceivable that it would grow too big. When talking with other breeders in my breed, I was given the advice to have an elective caesar. I think it's important to talk to others in your breed to determine if singleton litters are often born with no dramas, or if they're problematic. For the few days surrounding her due date, we had progesterone testing done to determine the right time for her caesarian. Clover, however, had other ideas and came into labour. The vet was some-what on standby, so it ended up being a 'moderately planned caesar'. The puppy was born at about 300g, when the average puppy size in my breed is anywhere from 100g-230g. So, we were right, it was a big puppy, and the vet was even surprised at the time. We are happy with our decision, but it was a very worrisome two months for us, and I'm glad I have a healthy puppy and a healthy mum at the end of it. Puppy is 5 days old today. Hope this helps. Thanks Leema, it helps alot. This is also my 2nd litter but her first. Healthy pup and healthy mum. A happy win/win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PomsNZ Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 singletons are normal for me LOL. but them I have poms, very short bodies... Out of the last 3 singletons (and last 4 litters) all but 1 were natural. 1 stillborn. All were above the average size for my breed, but not overly so. The C section was elective, she went into labor the night before, she ended up having to have a c section 2 hours before we had booked her. The other bitch had 3 litters all singletons no c sections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlmore Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 My last litter was a singleton. I had my girl X-rayd at 8 weeks and the Vet told me there was one pup but it was being reabsorbed. Imagine my surprise when out popped a lovely bitch pup. I have also had an ultrasound on one of my girls and was told she definitely had no pups but it looked like an infection. She had 12 beautiful pups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilaryo Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 My last litter was a singleton. I had my girl X-rayd at 8 weeks and the Vet told me there was one pup but it was being reabsorbed. Imagine my surprise when out popped a lovely bitch pup. I have also had an ultrasound on one of my girls and was told she definitely had no pups but it looked like an infection. She had 12 beautiful pups. I think I would change my vet Karlmore Lovely surprises though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 My last litter was a singleton. I had my girl X-rayd at 8 weeks and the Vet told me there was one pup but it was being reabsorbed. Imagine my surprise when out popped a lovely bitch pup. I have also had an ultrasound on one of my girls and was told she definitely had no pups but it looked like an infection. She had 12 beautiful pups. Wow, glad vet didn't try to remove dead pup!! What breed Karlmore? I'm guessing a larger one with 12 pups LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlmore Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 My last litter was a singleton. I had my girl X-rayd at 8 weeks and the Vet told me there was one pup but it was being reabsorbed. Imagine my surprise when out popped a lovely bitch pup. I have also had an ultrasound on one of my girls and was told she definitely had no pups but it looked like an infection. She had 12 beautiful pups. Wow, glad vet didn't try to remove dead pup!! What breed Karlmore? I'm guessing a larger one with 12 pups LOL Labradors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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