Mason_Gibbs Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Does anyone know of a canine nutritionist who will give me a structured home prepared diet for my dog? He seems to be able to eat kibble for no more than 2 months and then gets the runs ( he is a known allergy dog) we think its the dust mites that set him off. I fed him home prepared before but you could see his diet was lacking, he looks heaps better with some kibble added in. I see Monica Segal does consults online but its almost $300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffikki Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 I don't know of any canine nutritionists, sorry, but I have read that freezing dry food can help a bit with storage mites, which may be a problem if you're only feeding small amounts from a large bag. Freezing Dry Dog Food Freezing dry dog food for 3-7 days will also kill storage mites and most other insects. If your dog is allergic to storage mites (and over 90% of dogs with atopic dermatitis are), the mite carcasses and droppings will still present a problem, but freezing can prevent a few mites from turning into a full-blown infestation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 Yup i have also heard that freezing helps a bit, will maybe give it a go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minyvlz Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Out of interest, what was the home prepared meal that you fed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted November 15, 2011 Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 Roo, goat and lamb meat and bones, a variety of veges ( cooked) cheese, sardines ( fresh not tinned), sweet potato or pumpkin ... Pears, banana, yoghurt... I can't think of what else I'm leaving out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minyvlz Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Have you tried prey model raw? Skip the cheese, yoghurt, carbs and veggies, all of which can trigger problems in allergy dogs. I have a westie x and my poor boy had rashes and licked himself red on kibble. Since yours cannot tolerate rice and does not do well on kibble why not listen to his needs and start with a single protein source for a while? Raw is also low in protein which is good for growing puppies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted November 15, 2011 Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 (edited) Have you tried prey model raw? Skip the cheese, yoghurt, carbs and veggies, all of which can trigger problems in allergy dogs. I have a westie x and my poor boy had rashes and licked himself red on kibble. Since yours cannot tolerate rice and does not do well on kibble why not listen to his needs and start with a single protein source for a while? Raw is also low in protein which is good for growing puppies. Don't know where you get your info from but veggies don't trigger allergies in dogs btw!! Have u ever seen a dermatologist?? Canidae is grain free so he has no issues on it. He is eating half a cup of kibble with raw each day and IMO growing puppies need a balanced diet I wouldn't take a chance and do raw for a puppy Edited November 15, 2011 by Mason_Gibbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minyvlz Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Some do, especially those starchy vegetables. No I haven't seen a dermatologist but what has that got to do with anything? Suit yourself, but I feed raw and I think it's perfectly balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) Some do, especially those starchy vegetables. No I haven't seen a dermatologist but what has that got to do with anything? Suit yourself, but I feed raw and I think it's perfectly balanced. If that's true than on an elimination diet why do people get told to feed sweet potato and a novel protein? Normal potatoes can be a prob but they are the only veg I know that can cause a prob. Raw can be balanced but ts not as simple as people think you need to actually follow a formula ie this much % of this and this much of that. If you had seen a dermatologist you would have all the info they print out and give you as an patient and therefore would have more facts, not being funny just telling it how it is. ETA, people like me who have a dog with severe allergy problems will understand that I have tried all sorts of things, feeding this, doing that but at the end of the day it's not as simple as people think. Edited November 16, 2011 by Mason_Gibbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minyvlz Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I have never suggested that raw was simple or complicated. I do follow a ratio. I was simply giving a suggestion. So much for having tried all sorts of things. If you don't like it, fine. When my vet put my dog on an elim diet he just had a protein source, no carbs. Perhaps that's wrong but that's the way I did it. I don't think there is a need for potato or sweet potato in a dog's diet and that's my opinion. Still don't get the part about the dermatologist and its relevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 have you tried Dr Bruce Syme, he does phone consults too and is into raw diet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bruce Syme Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 have you tried Dr Bruce Syme, he does phone consults too and is into raw diet If you were interested Mason Gibbs we can easily arrange it, and it's no where near $300. Bruce is aware that some dogs do genuinely have grain allergies, he just feels far too many are misdiagnosed. He would have to be one of the nicest people to talk to as well. Many clients from here who visit his Castlemaine practice can attest to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 I have tried all the vets all natural complete mix and that does not agree with my dog. Thanks for the suggestion but I would need to clear it with my dermatologist first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 I have never suggested that raw was simple or complicated. I do follow a ratio. I was simply giving a suggestion. So much for having tried all sorts of things. If you don't like it, fine. When my vet put my dog on an elim diet he just had a protein source, no carbs. Perhaps that's wrong but that's the way I did it. I don't think there is a need for potato or sweet potato in a dog's diet and that's my opinion. Still don't get the part about the dermatologist and its relevance. I have tried just about everything, I wasn't having a go at you I just don't think you realize how difficult it is to have a dog that has real bad allergies, you just think you have found a solution and he sensitives to the next thing, it's awful and very soul destroying, the stress of it sometimes makes me physically ill!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 My specialist gave me a list of nutritionists but they are all in America. Here is one of them: http://www.petdiets.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 no not the vets all natural mix, but the actual veterinarian. Maybe your specialist can run Dr Syme an email (as between doctors you find they wont have as big a fee) and see if he has any ideas to help? That way he can have all the notes and tests you've already done without having to repeat information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lab_Rat Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Have you seen a book called "Real Food for Dogs & Cats" by Dr Clare Middle Candice??? Its quite a good in depth book of feeding raw. Im sure Clare still practices in Perth somewhere too - here is here website Clare Middle Hope you find some answers for your boy!! Zola is particularly itchy atm, must be environmental I think as her diet hasnt changed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 Mason is actually fine ATM food wise and itch wise. His immunotherapy has kicked in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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