Shakti Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Hi - we have a ten week old Maltese puppy who needs to start getting used to a collar and lead but the smallest ones our local petshop sells are huge on her. She needs something about s cat collar size but suitable for a mischievous bouncy puppy. We tried her in a cat collar but t had elastic insert and she wriggled out of it in no time flat. Any suggestions please? Blingy would be cool too! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murve Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I have seen cat collars that have no elastic in them & do have Bling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiara&Heidi Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 You can buy one that is slightly too big and just make another hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
**Super_Dogs** Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 You will want a small collar go for the puppy collars used by breeders for little babies! Try Here This site you can buy them individually - other sites you have to buy a pack. I use these collars as the quality is great!! If you want to make the collar more exciting they can put paw prints on it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RANDCMOORE31 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I've bought a matching lightweight collar and lead set from Cheap as Chips previously that did the job perfectly until my maltese was old enough for a proper collar. They are quite adjustable - and actually quite cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W Sibs Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I bought a tiny collar and lead from a $2 shop when Charlie was a puppy... by the time it wore out, he was big enough for a Rogz collar and he has been wearing that one since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indigirl Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Cat collars are what we use at iggy rescue. They are just for I'D tags we don't walk the dogs on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clover Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Rogz do their Pupz range, and some of the collars are tiny. If not Pet One do a realy tiny nylon collar. Rogz Pupz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest donatella Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 To be honest I wouldn't be using anything but a harness on such a small dog. They're necks are just too small and fragile to be walked on collars, much better suited to harnesses that support them across the chest without causing damage. Small dogs are also more prone to collapsed trachea also not helped by collars. Do the little thing a fabour and walk it in harness and leashes at least until it's fully developed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toy*dog Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 To be honest I wouldn't be using anything but a harness on such a small dog. They're necks are just too small and fragile to be walked on collars, much better suited to harnesses that support them across the chest without causing damage. Small dogs are also more prone to collapsed trachea also not helped by collars. Do the little thing a fabour and walk it in harness and leashes at least until it's fully developed im sorry but collars DO NOT cause collapsed trachea. genes do. im a breeder/exhibitor for 26 yrs of toy dogs here. cat collars - yes, most do have an elastic bit in them i have been advising my puppy buyers of this for a long time, and the dogs if walked on them they can slip out of them easily if they should suddenly get a fright outside their comfort zone as what happens occassionally. very dangerous. some have on here even suggested to buy a show lead but im sorry to say that they only have a metal clip to hold the dog in and even those are not safe to walk the toy dog in. seen many a dog run out of the showring and slip from the show lead so i wouldn't be advising people with young puppies to use those either. best bet is to go to either Kmart or Big W and get a collar that is made of weave elastic nylon and you can put the tongue in anywhere you want you don't have to make holes in the collar - very strong very good we have found. i could try to scan a pic of the collar to show people but i have used these for many years with no problem they are safe for little necks. think they are about 6-8 dollars but i have not bought one recently but have seen them in there not long ago still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimiss Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 To be honest I wouldn't be using anything but a harness on such a small dog. They're necks are just too small and fragile to be walked on collars, much better suited to harnesses that support them across the chest without causing damage. Small dogs are also more prone to collapsed trachea also not helped by collars. Do the little thing a fabour and walk it in harness and leashes at least until it's fully developed im sorry but collars DO NOT cause collapsed trachea. genes do. im a breeder/exhibitor for 26 yrs of toy dogs here. cat collars - yes, most do have an elastic bit in them i have been advising my puppy buyers of this for a long time, and the dogs if walked on them they can slip out of them easily if they should suddenly get a fright outside their comfort zone as what happens occassionally. very dangerous. some have on here even suggested to buy a show lead but im sorry to say that they only have a metal clip to hold the dog in and even those are not safe to walk the toy dog in. seen many a dog run out of the showring and slip from the show lead so i wouldn't be advising people with young puppies to use those either. best bet is to go to either Kmart or Big W and get a collar that is made of weave elastic nylon and you can put the tongue in anywhere you want you don't have to make holes in the collar - very strong very good we have found. i could try to scan a pic of the collar to show people but i have used these for many years with no problem they are safe for little necks. think they are about 6-8 dollars but i have not bought one recently but have seen them in there not long ago still. What would you say is more preferred by most for toy dogs.. A harness or a collar? I've heard many pros/cons about both, and you've had years of experience, I'd like to pick your brain for your take on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapua Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) If you contact Mandy Samson at Callicoma Kelpies & Pet Supplies she can make you one to fit you dog. http://www.callicoma.com.au/ Edited October 22, 2011 by Tapua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest donatella Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) To be honest I wouldn't be using anything but a harness on such a small dog. They're necks are just too small and fragile to be walked on collars, much better suited to harnesses that support them across the chest without causing damage. Small dogs are also more prone to collapsed trachea also not helped by collars. Do the little thing a fabour and walk it in harness and leashes at least until it's fully developed im sorry but collars DO NOT cause collapsed trachea. genes do. im a breeder/exhibitor for 26 yrs of toy dogs here. cat collars - yes, most do have an elastic bit in them i have been advising my puppy buyers of this for a long time, and the dogs if walked on them they can slip out of them easily if they should suddenly get a fright outside their comfort zone as what happens occassionally. very dangerous. some have on here even suggested to buy a show lead but im sorry to say that they only have a metal clip to hold the dog in and even those are not safe to walk the toy dog in. seen many a dog run out of the showring and slip from the show lead so i wouldn't be advising people with young puppies to use those either. best bet is to go to either Kmart or Big W and get a collar that is made of weave elastic nylon and you can put the tongue in anywhere you want you don't have to make holes in the collar - very strong very good we have found. i could try to scan a pic of the collar to show people but i have used these for many years with no problem they are safe for little necks. think they are about 6-8 dollars but i have not bought one recently but have seen them in there not long ago still. I was always under the impression that harnesses were better then collars for toy dogs Edited October 22, 2011 by donatella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 My friend uses a Rogz one on her chi pup so sure it will fit your pup too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toy*dog Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 What would you say is more preferred by most for toy dogs.. A harness or a collar? I've heard many pros/cons about both, and you've had years of experience, I'd like to pick your brain for your take on it it just depends on the preference of the owner, my father used a harness for his toy dog for many years. I've used collars for most of my dogs and it hasn't ever caused an issue. if they are trained to walk by your side they wouldn't be pulling on their necks anyway. I was always under the impression that harnesses were better then collars for toy dogs i didn't mention a harness, i was referring to collars causing damage which is highly unlikely, i have never seen or heard of a dogs neck being damaged by a collar. my breed and some toy breeds are more prone to collapsed trachea like chihuahuas because of the way they are shaped. often called the reverse sneeze. its just really the opinion of the individual as to what they want to buy for their pooch. i use a harness in the car that ties into the seatbelt for safety reasons to keep the dog in the car seat. Because i have mainly show dogs in my backyard, i tend to steer towards using leads rather than harnesses, with the chihuahuas they don't get walked for long periods of time they have their rather large backyard to exercise in and their outings to shows to socialise anyway. if i do walk them i also use a martingale lead, but not for puppies as they are generally too big for a pup, they have two metal pieces that come together on the dogs neck keeping the dog in place. also a safe alternative. good for training as well rather than using a metal check chain although some exhibitors use a snake chain instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest donatella Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 What would you say is more preferred by most for toy dogs.. A harness or a collar? I've heard many pros/cons about both, and you've had years of experience, I'd like to pick your brain for your take on it it just depends on the preference of the owner, my father used a harness for his toy dog for many years. I've used collars for most of my dogs and it hasn't ever caused an issue. if they are trained to walk by your side they wouldn't be pulling on their necks anyway. I was always under the impression that harnesses were better then collars for toy dogs i didn't mention a harness, i was referring to collars causing damage which is highly unlikely, i have never seen or heard of a dogs neck being damaged by a collar. my breed and some toy breeds are more prone to collapsed trachea like chihuahuas because of the way they are shaped. often called the reverse sneeze. its just really the opinion of the individual as to what they want to buy for their pooch. i use a harness in the car that ties into the seatbelt for safety reasons to keep the dog in the car seat. Because i have mainly show dogs in my backyard, i tend to steer towards using leads rather than harnesses, with the chihuahuas they don't get walked for long periods of time they have their rather large backyard to exercise in and their outings to shows to socialise anyway. if i do walk them i also use a martingale lead, but not for puppies as they are generally too big for a pup, they have two metal pieces that come together on the dogs neck keeping the dog in place. also a safe alternative. good for training as well rather than using a metal check chain although some exhibitors use a snake chain instead. fair enough, its owner preference i guess, i've always used harnesses on my toy dogs, mainly for their comfort (some have been obedience trained some haven't) and for my peace of mind knowing they can't slip out of them like they can in a collar. I used a chocker chain to obedience train my tenterfield terrier as she was a bit bigger but now own a Pom and if we make it to obedience school i'll use an ordinary collar with her as I don't want any sort of pressure on her neck at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Catdog Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Hi - we have a ten week old Maltese puppy who needs to start getting used to a collar and lead but the smallest ones our local petshop sells are huge on her. She needs something about s cat collar size but suitable for a mischievous bouncy puppy. We tried her in a cat collar but t had elastic insert and she wriggled out of it in no time flat. Any suggestions please? Blingy would be cool too! LOL I believe Puppia make very small harnesses. See pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) I was always under the impression that harnesses were better then collars for toy dogs I have been told the same about Whippets and it is rubbish. If a dog gets used to wearing a collar and taught to walk correctly on a collar, then there will be no pressure on anything. However I also believe genes not collars cause collapsing trachea. Edited October 22, 2011 by OSoSwift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinay2 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Yes, VERY easy to teach a pup not to pull on a collar from the get go. Simply teach it that it does not go forward (or anywhere) when the lead is tight by stopping and standing still when it does. The pup then never actually learns to pull in the first place. It learns that to walk the lead stays loose. Much easier to do this from the beginning than have to later teach the pup NOT to pull (or rather un-teach the bad habit of pulling) once it has learnt to do it. Anyway - back on topic. Another recommendation for callicoma, though agree too that often you will find smaller un-stretchy collars in some of the cheaper places like the $2 shops or k-mart etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalteseLuna Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 (edited) I am a Maltese owner and I would avoid using a collar - Maltese are just so tiny that I find the collars can be abit dangerous i.e. accidentally jerking a collar could be quite dangerous on a tiny Maltese. If the collar is just for tags/id then I would use a cat collar or puppy collar. When I got Luna she fit into the tiny Rogz collar - they do have a puppy range (i think). Luna is trained to walk on a loose lead (i.e. heel) so it's not that I think she will harm herself with pulling against a collar as she doesn't pull. I just prefer harnesses as I think they are better for smaller dogs: less likely to slip out, more secure, less likely to hurt the neck if jerked accidentally (likely if walked by a child or if owner isn't aware the pup has stopped)etc. Most Maltese owners that I know use harnesses - particularly step-in harnesses. They are also good at avoiding matting which I find particularly bad with collars + normal harnesses ;) And yes Maltese are prone to collapsing trachea's so this is another reason to avoid collars - just my opinion. It probably is related to genetics - but wearing collars puts pressure on the throat (at times)... Good luck with your Maltese - they really are delightful! (share some pictures if you have any - I love seeing Maltese puppies) Edited October 23, 2011 by MalteseLuna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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