toy*dog Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 i dont' understand why they didn't just dart them then move them to a zoo, if the bengal tigers are rare or endangered. they said something along the lines of darting didn't work? and they called animal management people in, where from? why didn't they do something., poor poor animals they didn't deserve to die like that, the owner sounded like a looney tune and i agree, shouldn't have been allowed to house such rare or endangered species. was he breeding them up or just owned them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 i dont' understand why they didn't just dart them then move them to a zoo, if the bengal tigers are rare or endangered. they said something along the lines of darting didn't work? and they called animal management people in, where from? why didn't they do something., poor poor animals they didn't deserve to die like that, the owner sounded like a looney tune and i agree, shouldn't have been allowed to house such rare or endangered species. was he breeding them up or just owned them? I read somewhere (maybe ABC online?) that they tried to dart the big cats. When they shot them with the dart, they turned very aggressive and were threatening human lives. I imagine it takes some time for the sedative to take effect Very tragic and plenty of warning signs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are You Serious Jo Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 They did try to dart them, but realistically, you have to put human lives before animals. They should be grateful he didn't let loose chimps, they are far worse that large carnivores. So sad, but the police had no choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannibalgoldfish Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Apparently it was getting dark and they couldn't have them still running loose so they shot them rather than darted them. They say there are far more tigers in captivity with private owners in America than there are left in the wild... However there is a great amount of inbreeding between the species and they were probably not pure bengal anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizabella Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Terribly, terribly sad. So sad that is wasn't possible to just tranquilise. I guess we must just be thankful that the poor animals were killed before getting a chance to attack humans or domestic animals. I can understand if it was getting dark, tranquilising just would not work, the animal would have run off into the darkness before going to sleep, and by the time they find it again, could have woken up and gone anywhere. Such a tragic waste of life.I am very much in favour of a ban on exotic pets, or at very least legislation requiring that they be kept in the same minimum standards accredited zoos must keep. I agree with Reverend Jo, thank goodness there were no chimps let loose, I can only imagine how badly that would have ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) Only in America, idiots. Damned if you do and damned if you don't . The nanny state make too many rules and costs too much and steps on toes. Ohio, in this case, made no rules at all, and failed to protect. If Australia had 50 states, you'd have a much more interesting mosiac of over and under regulation. I'm not saying this is ok or good. I'm amazed that, despite the CITES treaty, an obvious whacko was able to purchase not one, but 18 Bengal tigers. This should have triggered a federal response, but it didn't. I'm sure the regulatory framework will be made stronger in the near future. Societies are pretty good at closing the barn door after the cow has gone walkabout. It's hard to get the balance between regulation and protection right in a democracy . . . as seen by needless killing of a large, but apparently uncounted, number of dogs who happen to look something like an APBT in Victoria. States rights are relatively strong in the US. You are out of line to decry the country for failure to regulate in one, or a few, states. p.s. If I remember correctly, California got strict at regulating 'exotic' animals in the 1980s when a few movie stars got some nasty claw marks from their pet ocelots. Edited October 21, 2011 by sandgrubber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan3 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Apparently in Ohio you can keep a pet tiger, but not a pitbull. Ummm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmisssascha83 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 The poor animals such a sad story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Just heard and interview with an exotic animal specialist vet in Ohio. Apparently this has a particular history relating to animal auctions in the state, which has made it relatively likely that exotics will end up in Ohio, and end out auctioned to the highest breeder. The vet also said that there was a big upturn in problems with exotics after the show Animal Planet appeared on the scene. Amish influence seems to be a big negative, both in puppy farms, and in selling exotics. The Amish are also into puppy mill farming in a big way in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and other states. In some ways I admire the Amish (they're pacifists, and many Amish groups still don't use electricity or internal combustion machines . . . they still drive horse carts . .. huge families . . . many wear only black and white cloth . . . farmers and craftsmen with strong work ethic . . . but many Amish view all animals in the same way that most of us view pigs. That is to say, they don't care if a sentient animal suffers and are more concerned with keeping the family farm and getting good financial returns from their small farm). In sum . . . sad that the tradoffs between multiculturalism, preserving the family farm, modern economics, animal rights, and all the rest resulted in so many deaths of animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 No surprise, this is getting a lot of press in the old US of A. One of the things about having 50 states is there's one of everything . . . turns out that Ohio was absurdly liberal in laws allowing exotic pets. Don't think that's going to last long. How do they get by appendix 1 listing on CITES for the bengal tigers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 No surprise, this is getting a lot of press in the old US of A. One of the things about having 50 states is there's one of everything . . . turns out that Ohio was absurdly liberal in laws allowing exotic pets. Don't think that's going to last long. How do they get by appendix 1 listing on CITES for the bengal tigers? I asked the same question myself. Perhaps the Trade part of CITES does not cover trade within national boundaries once the animal has ended out as part of a captive wild animal population? I've been trying to understand Ohio's animal laws. Seems that they amended to state constitution a few years ago in a way that sounds like it is protecting animals, but in practice, puts the responsibility for most animal welfare issues (including puppy farming) in the hands of a body that is dominated by agricultural interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I was thinking the same thing, sandgrubber. Pretty big loophole if that's the case, isnt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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