pomquest Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Hi, I am desperate for info on Protein Losing Enteropathy (PLE) from anyone who has/had a dog/s with this disease. Treatment, diet, outcomes....... Any help appreciated, TIA, Sandy Pomquest Pomeranians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobieMum Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Unfortunately, I am no help to you, because when my girl had this, she was still only a baby,so I had her PTS. I just wanted to let you know, that I'm thinking of you and your puppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomquest Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Unfortunately, I am no help to you, because when my girl had this, she was still only a baby,so I had her PTS. I just wanted to let you know, that I'm thinking of you and your puppy. Thanks Pauchel. Did your vet advise you to have your puppy PTS? Was there nothing you could do for her? My girl is not a puppy, she is 15 months old. She spent two weeks in hospital but is now back home. Hope someone else can share their experiences. Sandy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
**Super_Dogs** Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Unfortunetly what I know about it has a bad ending. A beautiful 12 week old baby I knew got this as a secondary disease. So she was already very sick and with this also she had to be PTS. Sorry this is not a good news story. When I read about it at the time I did read that the disease on its own (when not a secondady) can be managed. I hope this is the case with your baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobieMum Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Unfortunately, I am no help to you, because when my girl had this, she was still only a baby,so I had her PTS. I just wanted to let you know, that I'm thinking of you and your puppy. Thanks Pauchel. Did your vet advise you to have your puppy PTS? Was there nothing you could do for her? My girl is not a puppy, she is 15 months old. She spent two weeks in hospital but is now back home. Hope someone else can share their experiences. Sandy. The vet I had at the time was brilliant and no he didn't recommend it, but we sat down for 2 hours discussing everything and decided, because of the size of her belly already, it wasn't fair to put her through anymore. Things we discussed was diet, have her on constant injections (if I remember - and this was 10 years ago - it was going to be one a day) and she was only ever going to be a house pet, I couldn't do any dog sports with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 My experience with this disease is with an elderly (28) year old horse. She was my much loved part bred Arabian Pinto and sddenly came down with Odema (swelling in legs)and localised plaque (fluid lump under abdomen area) she was put on a bland non protein diet and given probiotics. She began to loose weight and scour so the vet prescribed 100 (yes 100) codiene tablets to "bind" her up. She lost weight dramatically and she was started on a five day Cortinsone injection course. She was rapidly turning to skin and bone and although I didn't want to give up on her I told my OH I was going to have her put down. He got angry with me as it was day three of the cortisone injections and he felt I was giving up on her. He said "Well, she's your horse"! I planned to call the vet out the next morning but found her dead. All this happened in two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Pomquest, my previous wheaten had the kidney protein wasting disease and probably PLE as well. Both diseases are well known in wheaten terriers. Have a look at my wheaten Wheaten Health Australia where I have some information about PLE and testing for it. Really, the only real way to diagnose PLE in Australia is via a biopsy and often the dogs are too sick to put under an anaesthetic. PLE is generally caused by damage to the stomach lining and often follows the dog having Intestinal Bowel Disease. I strongly suggest that your dog's vet contact Dr Meryl Littman who is the expert in the disease. Depending on your dog's condition, it could be managed by diet. Texas A&M university also do a lot of work in this area. I'm happy to talk offline as well if you want to send me a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomquest Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 Pomquest, my previous wheaten had the kidney protein wasting disease and probably PLE as well. Both diseases are well known in wheaten terriers. Have a look at my wheaten Wheaten Health Australia where I have some information about PLE and testing for it. Really, the only real way to diagnose PLE in Australia is via a biopsy and often the dogs are too sick to put under an anaesthetic. PLE is generally caused by damage to the stomach lining and often follows the dog having Intestinal Bowel Disease. I strongly suggest that your dog's vet contact Dr Meryl Littman who is the expert in the disease. Depending on your dog's condition, it could be managed by diet. Texas A&M university also do a lot of work in this area. I'm happy to talk offline as well if you want to send me a PM. Hi Sheridan, My girl has been diagnosed via Endoscopy and Blood Tests at Queensland Veterinary Specialists. She spent two weeks in ICU. It was a follow-on from IBD caused by something she ate. I have seen that it is common in Wheatens. Pop is doing reasonably well at the moment but I am searching for ideas on what I can or cant feed her. She has had a few soft stools yesterday and today and would ideally like to get them back to formed if I can. Thanks heaps for the contact details for Dr Littman. Sandy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Dr Littman will be very helpful. I'm currently trying to sort out sending her blood samples for a geriatric wheaten project for my Grumpy. She should have some advice on diet. Most wheatens are put on Hills Ultra - Z/D which hydrolises the protein which makes it harder to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomquest Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 Dr Littman will be very helpful. I'm currently trying to sort out sending her blood samples for a geriatric wheaten project for my Grumpy. She should have some advice on diet. Most wheatens are put on Hills Ultra - Z/D which hydrolises the protein which makes it harder to lose. My fussy Pom wont eat the Z/d :-(. She did eat a tiny bit for a few days but wont touch it now. I just gave her some sardines which she seemed to like......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Yes, I had that issue with my wheaten. There is also a Royal Canin veterinary intestinal dietary food. Comes in wet and dry but your vet should check with Dr Littman about it and what possible other IBD dietary foods there might be, including ones you could put together yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomquest Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 Yes, I had that issue with my wheaten. There is also a Royal Canin veterinary intestinal dietary food. Comes in wet and dry but your vet should check with Dr Littman about it and what possible other IBD dietary foods there might be, including ones you could put together yourself. Am I able to email Dr Littman myself or should my Vet do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Your vet should do it and send all the test results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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