Nicinoo Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Hi everyone I've just joined this forum but have gotten plenty of helpful hints from everyone so thank you. I have two questions 1. We have a female puppy bullmastiff she's about 17 weeks old and weighs 20kgs - just wondering what people's thoughts are on dry food. Someone told me they are toxic for dogs? We have puppy eukanuba large breed that we give her along with chicken frames and necks, everything the breeder said. They also said to give her brisket bones, chicken mince, puppy milk once a week plus cheese. I want to make sure I can give her the best she can as she's growing - have I missed anything? 2. We also adopted a 3 year old bullmastiff male who is just gorgeous, however he seems prone to hotspots. When we first got him he got one and the vet said it was probably the stress of the move as we live on an acre with no trees so he hasn't brushed up against one. Then we went to Fraser Is for a week and had a house sitter, another HUGE hotspot, maybe the stress of us leaving him?? The vet gave us some ilium neocort which worked wonders but we've run out and he won't give us more without another consultation. I've read lots of home remedies on betadine baths, curash baby powder, plus some other stuff. I did read somewhere that someone said to give him a zinc tablet is that right? I have just purchased the pyohex shampoo and conditioner also so hopefully that will help - any other suggestions would be awesome : ) I look forward to your responses Nic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Dry food is not toxic for dogs. Do a search on hotspots for more info but if it's bothering your dog and/or not healing you need to take him to the vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) My one gets hufe hotspots where nothing helps besides antibiotics. I would take him to a dermatologist and get their opinion. I spray mine with something daily to prevent hotspots from forming but only avalable through the dermatologist. ETA the Pyohex did nothing to help my fog Edited October 19, 2011 by Mason_Gibbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicinoo Posted October 22, 2011 Author Share Posted October 22, 2011 My one gets hufe hotspots where nothing helps besides antibiotics. I would take him to a dermatologist and get their opinion. I spray mine with something daily to prevent hotspots from forming but only avalable through the dermatologist. ETA the Pyohex did nothing to help my fog Ok thanks, I notice that on both the puppy and my male that there seems to be little patches where it looks like the start of hair missing - so not sure what's going on there, I think a dermatoligist is the way to go, do you have to get referred by the vet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullbreedlover Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 You can use curash powder or any athletes foot powder to dry out the hot spot. Curash is zinc. Hot spots are wet exczema. Exczema starts to occur at this time of the year due to the rise in humidity. Zinc is used to treat wet exczema. Alternatively you can use Listerine. The brown one only. It has been known to work great on hotspots. Just dab it on daily. If you have noticed patches of missing hair just make sure it is not ringworm. Circles of missing hair can also be caused by a staph bug. Usually scrapings are taken by the vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 You can use curash powder or any athletes foot powder to dry out the hot spot. Curash is zinc. Hot spots are wet exczema. Exczema starts to occur at this time of the year due to the rise in humidity. Zinc is used to treat wet exczema. Alternatively you can use Listerine. The brown one only. It has been known to work great on hotspots. Just dab it on daily. If you have noticed patches of missing hair just make sure it is not ringworm. Circles of missing hair can also be caused by a staph bug. Usually scrapings are taken by the vet. None if that stuff works on serious hotspots jmo though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullbreedlover Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) You can use curash powder or any athletes foot powder to dry out the hot spot. Curash is zinc. Hot spots are wet exczema. Exczema starts to occur at this time of the year due to the rise in humidity. Zinc is used to treat wet exczema. Alternatively you can use Listerine. The brown one only. It has been known to work great on hotspots. Just dab it on daily. If you have noticed patches of missing hair just make sure it is not ringworm. Circles of missing hair can also be caused by a staph bug. Usually scrapings are taken by the vet. None if that stuff works on serious hotspots jmo though really? What spray do you use recommended by the dermatologist. Has the specialist determined exactly what it is that your dog has, because in 30 years of having Bulldogs with hotspots, these remedies do work. jmo And is there a serious need to spray them daily??? Are you sure you are referring to hotspots and not an infection. Edited October 22, 2011 by Bullbreedlover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumabaar Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 You can use curash powder or any athletes foot powder to dry out the hot spot. Curash is zinc. Hot spots are wet exczema. Exczema starts to occur at this time of the year due to the rise in humidity. Zinc is used to treat wet exczema. Alternatively you can use Listerine. The brown one only. It has been known to work great on hotspots. Just dab it on daily. If you have noticed patches of missing hair just make sure it is not ringworm. Circles of missing hair can also be caused by a staph bug. Usually scrapings are taken by the vet. None if that stuff works on serious hotspots jmo though Ultimately you want to treat the source of the problem with hot spots. What flea preventative are you using, and do you treat the environment as well as your dog? Many dogs get hot spots from flea bite allergy. It can happen with just one bite so ensuring that you have good flea control is a good start. I use curash on my dog when she even LOOKS like she is getting a hotspot or is excessively grooming an area. She has gone from losing all the coat around her rump to just losing undercoat because we dry the area out before it gets out of control. I do agree about seeing a specialist who has far more experience than your average vet. You can research who you want to see and contact them to see if they do need a referral from your vet- some do some don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I dont see how you can have hotspots with no infection?? There will be some infection in every hotspot. I use a spray daily to prevent them by Duoxo, i only do the neck and back area which is where my dog gets them. When they are present i still spray but also use chlorohex to wash the weeping stuff away and then use Advantan or Bactroban which both require prescriptions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lab lady Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 You can use curash powder or any athletes foot powder to dry out the hot spot. Curash is zinc. Hot spots are wet exczema. Exczema starts to occur at this time of the year due to the rise in humidity. Zinc is used to treat wet exczema. Alternatively you can use Listerine. The brown one only. It has been known to work great on hotspots. Just dab it on daily. If you have noticed patches of missing hair just make sure it is not ringworm. Circles of missing hair can also be caused by a staph bug. Usually scrapings are taken by the vet. None if that stuff works on serious hotspots jmo though Listerine work for me, clears them up overnight. Mind you i catch them early before they get to the manky stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumabaar Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I dont see how you can have hotspots with no infection?? There will be some infection in every hotspot. I use a spray daily to prevent them by Duoxo, i only do the neck and back area which is where my dog gets them. When they are present i still spray but also use chlorohex to wash the weeping stuff away and then use Advantan or Bactroban which both require prescriptions The environment that the bacteria require to keep a hot spot going is wet and hot. If you take away the moisture the conditions become unfavourable so the bacteria don't become established etc. So drying the area out will stop many hot spots. This is not to say that all will respond because sometimes there is a more complex situation which requires prescriptions but for most changing the environment is enough. The cause often helps with treatment- so if it is a flea bite hypersensitivity, a general/localised skin condition. My girl gets one 7 weeks after every heat so I assume it is something hormonal so treatment for her is desexing in the next month or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 You can use curash powder or any athletes foot powder to dry out the hot spot. Curash is zinc. Hot spots are wet exczema. Exczema starts to occur at this time of the year due to the rise in humidity. Zinc is used to treat wet exczema. Alternatively you can use Listerine. The brown one only. It has been known to work great on hotspots. Just dab it on daily. If you have noticed patches of missing hair just make sure it is not ringworm. Circles of missing hair can also be caused by a staph bug. Usually scrapings are taken by the vet. Listerine works because of the chlorhexidine content in some of them, it is also present in Malaseb shampoo. I have had great success with either a diluted chlorhex solution ( you can buy chlorhex ) and also Malaseb with the ratio of about 3mls per 100 of water, squirt it on, massage any debri off and dry with a towel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinay2 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 There are many views on diet and you will find many threads here with information. Some people believe in a raw diet (such as myself), others feed a mixed diet and others feed just commercial foods. You will need to do your own research to decide what you personally feel is best for your dogs. At the moment though I would probably be consulting with your breeder on what you are feeding your puppy. Whereabouts on the male are the hotspots forming. Is it always in the same place? What are you feeding him? Diet can sometimes have an influence. Stress can come in many forms too and yes, in a dog prone to them aften a change such as you going away can sometimes help to bring them on. There will always be an underlying cause though. Hot spots tend to form on a 'place of weakness' and if they are recurring in the one spot can sometimes indicate that there is some kind of 'weakness' at that point. Sometimes a bone or joint problem for instance or some other underlying condition. Sometimes treatments such as Chiro or addressing joint issues can help in the long term for not only the underlying issue but the hot spots as well. I note that you say there are little patches of hair missing on both of the dogs. Without a picture can't say what it is but if concerned get it checked in case it is demodex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I use a chlorexifine spray which is the same as the listerine then. I spray daily to Stop them forming as my dog has serious skin issues. I found the Curash didnt work for us tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mish13 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Not sure what part of Qld you are in but if you do want to consult a Dermatologist I recommend Mike Shipstone http://www.qldvetspecialists.com.au/dermatology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 You can use curash powder or any athletes foot powder to dry out the hot spot. Curash is zinc. Hot spots are wet exczema. Exczema starts to occur at this time of the year due to the rise in humidity. Zinc is used to treat wet exczema. Alternatively you can use Listerine. The brown one only. It has been known to work great on hotspots. Just dab it on daily. If you have noticed patches of missing hair just make sure it is not ringworm. Circles of missing hair can also be caused by a staph bug. Usually scrapings are taken by the vet. None if that stuff works on serious hotspots jmo though really? What spray do you use recommended by the dermatologist. Has the specialist determined exactly what it is that your dog has, because in 30 years of having Bulldogs with hotspots, these remedies do work. jmo And is there a serious need to spray them daily??? Are you sure you are referring to hotspots and not an infection. Yes my dog has had extensive allergy testing, he is atopic and has food allergies. The hotspots are not from food though as I now know what he is allergic to and steer clear of it. His hotspots are bacterial overgrowth, one day the sore will be just a tiny scratch the next day ( even after treatment) it will be a sore 0f 5-10cm wide, horrible horrible stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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