Eroica Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 We feed our Bedlingtons BARF but were supplementing it with Supercoat Special Care as it is lower in Copper than others - necessary for Bedlingtons About six months ago we stopped feeding dry food all together and now our doggies absolutely wolf down their BARF food and look better for it. Just a thought Erica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A pup Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Eagle Pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 I feed Iams large breed puppy food at the moment. My vet told me Iams and Eukanuba were the same just packaged differently - is this true? I add a few extra things to his food throughout the week to entertain him (only one of the following at a time) - boiled egg, sardines, liver and kidney. Not sure what to feed him when he is older - might get a small pack of eagle farm to try him on. What other extras do you give your loved ones? Seems like people are giving their pet chicken bones, is this true? I thought this could cause real problems for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Sonny: Seems like people are giving their pet chicken bones, is this true? I thought this could cause real problems for them? RAW chicken bones eg. wings, necks are the basis of my dogs diet. No problems to date with feeding them. COOKED chicken bones are a whole different story and are dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Thanks - so raw chicken wings and legs are ok - you learn something new everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grotty_rotty Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Sonny - that is common for companies to do. I have swapped from Nutrience (stinky poos) to IAMS Large breed and it is the ONLY food my GSD has ever wagged his tail at!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugar Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Finally found a dry food that my lab loves. *V.I.P PETFOODS MEATY MUESLI* www.vippetfoods.com.au V.I.P petfoods meets the nutritional leavels established by the assoc. of america feed control officials. (says on the box) Just has come out, at our local supermarket. (yes, im in Oz not the US) Real meat with honey and coated cereal flakes. I would be interested to know if this really is healthy; -quality ingredients (selected) -honey, real meat, carrot, bacon chips vitamin enriched, puffed rice, canola, fish and flaxseed oils. dried parsley, kealp and garlic, micronised flakes, cheese bals, bran fibre. PROTEIN 20% FAT 10% FIBRE 3% SALT 1% CALCIUM TO PHOSHORUS 1.3:1 ENERGY LEVEL PER 100G 390 CAL. ANY GOOD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firestone Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 (edited) One of ours is on Royal Canin Medium Adult & GSD24 all the others are now on COPRICE and Vet's All Natural. We find that all of these suit our dogs at the moment. We used to feed Supercoat but as other people have said they have changed it in some way and our dogs stools became loose and smelly We had a very sick dog on a particular "very well known" dog food Jess & Gail Edited March 22, 2005 by Amarada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 About the only concern to me over the food that contains honey.... Is Honey listed first (as you've typed)? Honey is a short-chain sugar that is quickly absorbed, causing the level of sugar in the blood to rise. This switches on the secretion of insulin which acts to limit excessive blood sugar levels; Often this response can "overshoot" and may depress blood sugar to a level lower than normal (and may make your dog lethargic when this happens). Honey contains 80% sugar and 20% water. The second ingredient you mentioned is "Real Meat"... What type of meat? Meat when listed as "meat" rather than "meat meal" is measured as the weight of meat with the water still included! Foods that list "real chicken/beef" or chicken/beef first include the water weight in this ingredient. Chicken/beef in this form consists of 70% water. The manufacturer counts the "water weight" of the meat, and lists meat first. With the water removed, your pet is getting 70% less "meat" than you were led to believe. Fish... Without further information, my guess would be generic "whitefish". Merriam-Webster dictionary (and the human and pet food industry) define Whitefish as "any of various market fishes with white flesh that is not oily". Brands using this less expensive, generic fish will not be consistent from bag-to-bag (even within the same brands). Whitefish is usually preserved with ethoxyquin. The meat filleted from the carcass goes into the human food chain...the head and carcass go into other brands of pet food. Ethoxyquin is regulated as a pesticide and cannot be added to human food, as it is known to have promoted kidney carcinogenesis. Also, it significantly increased incidence of stomach tumors and enhanced bladder carcinogesis. The product information on the website doesn't appear to have been updated since Pre-October 2003, as I could not find the "Meaty Muesli" there... It could be quite good, but I'm lacking the relevant information to make an informed judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobermanDave Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 (edited) i use science diet now and i think its a rip off im trying to find out which one of the premium foods is cheapest and im gonna start that one as for which ones best ive tried most 1) ROYAL CANIN most overated food ever ok it is good for them my doberman was at hes peak size while on royal canin but he didnt really like it that much and the pidgeons ate more of it then he did and it gave my dog constant watery stools 2) EUKANUBA my dogs liked this one but not as much as science diet and it helped make there stools normal again after the royal canin ..... 3) SCIENCE DIET my dogs love this one a bit to much so im changing because there eating a 18 kg bag every 2 weeks... 4) BONNIE WORKING DOG my doberman would not touch this food and while he was on it he lost serious weight ..if i had to pick the best one it would be science diet then eukanuba and i wouldnt recommend the other two...im gonna try optimum or eagle pack and hopefully stick to one of them Edited July 25, 2005 by DobermanDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatDanz Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Real meat with honey and coated cereal flakes.I would be interested to know if this really is healthy; -quality ingredients (selected) -honey, real meat, carrot, bacon chips vitamin enriched, puffed rice, canola, fish and flaxseed oils. dried parsley, kealp and garlic, micronised flakes, cheese bals, bran fibre. PROTEIN 20% FAT 10% FIBRE 3% SALT 1% CALCIUM TO PHOSHORUS 1.3:1 ENERGY LEVEL PER 100G 390 CAL. ANY GOOD? Meat is a generic term used to describe any part of ANY animal besides parts such as fur, hooves and stomach contents. Did you know that "meat" can include euthanized cats and dogs? That also includes the chemicals that were used to kill them. So based on the ingreadients, I can say with confidence that NO, this is NOT a healthy diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKat Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 It is interesting to see the 'Meaty Muesli" The corn is whole pieces of dried corn, the puffed rice and at least some of the grains are whole etc. The meat pieces look like dried shredded meat that have been made into meaty pellets etc. I bought a bundle of the sealed bags for emergencies (while out camping, or crashing over night unexpectedly at friends etc) and of course had to open one to check it out. And apart from some colouring (red on some kibble and green on some others, nothing else 'looks' artificially coloured) it doesn't seem sooooo bad. I've also seen some dogs that are fed that only and they seem to be doing ok. However it's not something i will personally be using for other then the odd ocasion. Especially since a cheap ready made BARF supplier has been found (check out the BigDog thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brockstar Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 We've just changed from Supercoat Puppy over to Eukanuba, and have noticed a difference in b/c straight away. Her coat is glossy, she is HEAPS more active ( ) and #2's are firmer. Oh, and she wolfs it down. With the Supercoat, always had to put something with it, ie: egg, sardines, vegies, mince, etc, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiffanyAmber Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I can not believe there are so many people who feed their dogs dry food. As an owner of a dog who constantly bloats, I have found that dry food was the blame. I am now an avid BARF feeder and there is no dry food in this house whatsoever. I have also read and am still learning as much as I can on dry food and the causes of bloat, the why's and whatfor's that causes bloat. I find that dry food is the worst offender. Do a google search with 'bloat and dry food' as your heading. Would love to hear opionins on the matter from others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKat Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Do a google search with 'bloat and dry food' as your heading. Would love to hear opionins on the matter from others. Perhaps that's a whole new thread? As to the kibble issue...it's up to each person what they feed their dogs...some breeds are more prone to the chances of bloat then others, also not everyone has the time and freezer space for BARF, nor does everyone which to feed such to their dogs. And that's their choice. You dog has a predisposition to bloat, it's a shame but you have found a food that doesn't cause such a problem with your dog and that's great. But others don't have constant bloat as a problem for their dogs and if what they are feeding their dogs works for their dogs then who is to gainsay that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springergirl Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 My boy was on supercoat and was happy but we couldnt get it last time so we tried Iam's so he's been on that since Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi trixibell Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Eukanubra over here Just because that was what one of our girls was on when we got them. No complaints though and certainly not thinking of changing. Ange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pup's mum Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 My old girl is on Nutrience Senior but the rest are on Royal Canin...love the stauff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arawnhaus Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Have tried SCIENCE DIET BONNIE EUKANUBA ROYAL CANIN ADVANCE and many others tried but i stick with 2 foods supercoat puppy (even for adults) box 1 gold (greyhound formula) my choices are fresh veg and meat scraps too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 (edited) , Edited May 7, 2009 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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