Quickasyoucan Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Erny, what I am trying to say is that the only thing new about the situation is they have extended the target to Pitbull cross breeds which doesn't mean next week they will be after Rottweilers, GSD's or any other large breed and I don't think we should be scaring people to believe this could happen anytime soon. The target remains on Pitbull's, cross breeds with Pitbull blood is not a step closer to restricting anything other than dogs of Pitbull connection, it has nothing to do with other breeds so why the panic? Have you read the laws? Do you know them well for what they read, or are you reading and conjuring your own interpretation of them? You're incorrect, Zuri. The laws have changed in that dogs fitting a description are targets. The Govt knows PB's don't have a record of DNA markers. Contrary to your assertion, it's not about "blood". You might well trust your Council officer (both present and future and regardless of experience, intent etc) but I'm not gonna. It is wrong to put laws into place where people have no control over whether they can abide by them or not. Think outside the square is my recommendation, Zuri. At the moment, you've boxed yourself in so that you can't see the big picture. ETA: You able to answer to the requests I've posted? IE Links to show evidence of BSL proving to be a success? And also, what State you reside in? Methinks Zuri needs to look at what happened in the Republic of Ireland, starting with APBT's and now I believe up to the teens in restricted PUREBRED REGISTERED dogs. Anyway besides that I care about all dogs being restricted, not the correct way of dealing with dog bites and leaves us no safer as a community (even if you didn't like dogs wouldn't you want something that actually works?). I don't trust any dog though that looks at you with those big brown or blue eyes when you are trying to eat something tasty as if to say "I'm starving". One cave in and you will never eat alone for the rest of your life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappiemum Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Never met a breed that I didn't like in some way Not too fond of cockeroaches though. And maggots, and mossies. Have trouble liking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgardner89 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 My aunty is a nurse at the childrens hospital. She has a habit of asking the parents what breed of dog their child was bitten by. She told me there is no trend. People are bitten by all breeds of dog. While some dogs look “scarier” than others, I think all dogs have the capacity to be vicious. Just as owners have the capacity to train and socialise (or not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souff Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 My aunty is a nurse at the childrens hospital. She has a habit of asking the parents what breed of dog their child was bitten by. She told me there is no trend. People are bitten by all breeds of dog. While some dogs look “scarier” than others, I think all dogs have the capacity to be vicious. Just as owners have the capacity to train and socialise (or not). Yes, they all have teeth. Speaking of teeth, Souff had the opportunity to inspect the teeth of a deceased young male tiger quoll (Dasyurus maculatus) recently. The two central incisors were extremely long and sharp - good thing there aren't too many humans near quolls because those teeth would easily go straight through a person's hand. Souff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiara&Heidi Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 My aunty is a nurse at the childrens hospital. She has a habit of asking the parents what breed of dog their child was bitten by. She told me there is no trend. People are bitten by all breeds of dog. While some dogs look “scarier” than others, I think all dogs have the capacity to be vicious. Just as owners have the capacity to train and socialise (or not). Yes, they all have teeth. Speaking of teeth, Souff had the opportunity to inspect the teeth of a deceased young male tiger quoll (Dasyurus maculatus) recently. The two central incisors were extremely long and sharp - good thing there aren't too many humans near quolls because those teeth would easily go straight through a person's hand. Souff Oh well we'd better destroy them just in case :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souff Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 My aunty is a nurse at the childrens hospital. She has a habit of asking the parents what breed of dog their child was bitten by. She told me there is no trend. People are bitten by all breeds of dog. While some dogs look “scarier” than others, I think all dogs have the capacity to be vicious. Just as owners have the capacity to train and socialise (or not). Yes, they all have teeth. Speaking of teeth, Souff had the opportunity to inspect the teeth of a deceased young male tiger quoll (Dasyurus maculatus) recently. The two central incisors were extremely long and sharp - good thing there aren't too many humans near quolls because those teeth would easily go straight through a person's hand. Souff Oh well we'd better destroy them just in case :rolleyes: They are already endangered and the one I saw was road kill. Many of our breeds of dog have less numbers than some of our endangered native species. Sadly our politicians and the anti-dog brigade don't see the similarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skye GSD Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) Aggressive GSD with SWF - SWF thinks if you can't beat it, smother it! PS - only breed I think we should all be wary of is the loose one with no owner in sight. Edited October 4, 2011 by Skye GSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiara&Heidi Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 My aunty is a nurse at the childrens hospital. She has a habit of asking the parents what breed of dog their child was bitten by. She told me there is no trend. People are bitten by all breeds of dog. While some dogs look “scarier” than others, I think all dogs have the capacity to be vicious. Just as owners have the capacity to train and socialise (or not). Yes, they all have teeth. Speaking of teeth, Souff had the opportunity to inspect the teeth of a deceased young male tiger quoll (Dasyurus maculatus) recently. The two central incisors were extremely long and sharp - good thing there aren't too many humans near quolls because those teeth would easily go straight through a person's hand. Souff Oh well we'd better destroy them just in case :rolleyes: They are already endangered and the one I saw was road kill. Many of our breeds of dog have less numbers than some of our endangered native species. Sadly our politicians and the anti-dog brigade don't see the similarity. Yes, I know they're endangered but, you know, just to be safe we'd better draft a breed standard and employ a few knowledgable people to go and find the ones that remain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmisssascha83 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I am scared of Rottweilers. They are dogs that were forged by the devil himself in the very depths of hell. They enjoy the taste of human flesh and have a keen sense of smell for our blood. Or so The Omen has led me to believe. this has been my experience too!!!!!!!!! Be afraid. Be very afraid I do agree there are some very scary Rotties out there, and even scarier Owners squeeee so huggable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinabean Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Aggressive GSD with SWF - SWF thinks if you can't beat it, smother it! PS - only breed I think we should all be wary of is the loose one with no owner in sight. Completely agree Skye GSD. These cause far more problems than any particular breed of dog. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Gifts Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Apologies to the breed lovers out there but I am yet to meet a chi I like. OK, well maybe it is more that they don't like me so it is a mutual thing. They like to nip my feet and ankles and hump my leg and repeatedly bark at a high pitch at me and chase me away from my letterbox and sit smack bang in my driveway causing me to manouvre around them. A large family of these Attichi's have lived across the road for 11 years and there's been no respect for this poor rate payer since day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdogs Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'm wary of any dog displaying 'keep away' body language or dogs roaming unattended in packs. Other than that, I tend to discount breed. I have been bitten twice by two different breeds (Akita and Poodle) in the line of work. Both were euthanised due to the extreme severity of their issues. Both dogs' issues were man made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgardner89 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Apologies to the breed lovers out there but I am yet to meet a chi I like. OK, well maybe it is more that they don't like me so it is a mutual thing. They like to nip my feet and ankles and hump my leg and repeatedly bark at a high pitch at me and chase me away from my letterbox and sit smack bang in my driveway causing me to manouvre around them. A large family of these Attichi's have lived across the road for 11 years and there's been no respect for this poor rate payer since day one. That again is a training issue. I have a chi. Johnny is involved in agility and flyball. He doesn't hump anything. He never barks (I trained him not to). I think all dogs have the opportunity to be good dogs with the right socialisation and training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Gifts Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I know mgardner - I was making light of the situation really as they are like a pack of wild dogs (all breeding with each other too) and it is the owners who let them wander and attack anyone who dares go past their house. It drives me crazy but my neighbours just don't get that just because they are small they can cause real problems when not disciplined and contained. I don't think they have even ever walked them or taken them in the car even as their vet lives three doors up and if they ever go on a holiday the dogs stay there and a family member simply turns up to feed them. They lack stimulation. I'd feel sorry for them if they weren't constantly driving me crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgardner89 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I know mgardner - I was making light of the situation really as they are like a pack of wild dogs (all breeding with each other too) and it is the owners who let them wander and attack anyone who dares go past their house. It drives me crazy but my neighbours just don't get that just because they are small they can cause real problems when not disciplined and contained. I don't think they have even ever walked them or taken them in the car even as their vet lives three doors up and if they ever go on a holiday the dogs stay there and a family member simply turns up to feed them. They lack stimulation. I'd feel sorry for them if they weren't constantly driving me crazy! Poor little guys! Heaps of people on my street fail to walk their dogs too. They howl and howl. Must be bored out of their brains! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
german_shep_fan Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Aggressive GSD with SWF - SWF thinks if you can't beat it, smother it! PS - only breed I think we should all be wary of is the loose one with no owner in sight. aww both great dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim'sMum Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'm not scared of every dog of this breed as such...but I'm definitely on my guard with Rottweilers. Incident 1....A neighbour's Rotty escaped his yard and I knew her as a friendly dog. I grabbed a lead, called her over, clipped the lead on and walked her back to her house. She seemed relaxed and happy. As soon as we got down the driveway towards the gate (which had blown open), her body language changed and she growled. My blood ran cold. Knowing she had Hanrob obedience training I somehow snapped out a few commands and she obeyed me...while I opened the gate, ushered her in and hurriedly slammed it shut behind her. She was left with my lead attached. It scared the **** out of me. Incident 2....OH's parents lived in a rural area, across the road from a chicken farm. These neighbours had 3 Rottweilers. OH and I took the kids for a walk down across an open paddock to the river, in the opposite direction from the chicken farm and as we walked back towards his parents house the 3 Rottweilers were loose. One seemed OK but the male and another female stood their ground, with the male being positively scary...stalking body language, low gutteral growls. I picked up both kids and OH picked up a large stick, dropped his voice and told the dog to get back/go home etc..It didn't and continued to stalk us. We had to back up slowly, go back along the paddock to his parent's back fence, drop the kids over, then climb over ourselves. OH's dad rang the chicken farm. The owners were away for the weekend and their teenage kids had let the dogs roam. He told them that he would not hesitate to shoot any of the dogs on sight if they were ever allowed to roam again. As much as I always stop and try to catch an obviously lost dog, which I did a few weeks ago (a sooky la la of a GSD who was wandering back and forth across a busy road ) if it was a Rottweiler....I would just call the Ranger and not attempt to stop/catch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeckoTree Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Hmm, not breeds no, but some local dogs yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpette Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Tim'sMum I totally understand your wariness after being exposed to that sort of behaviour. However it is the behaviour that changed your mind not the breed per say. Until the dog growled in incident 1 you had no problem with the breed. You handled the dog beautifully by the way by switching the dog into working mode using obedience commands Interestingly in the second incident you were not concerned about the first Rottweiler, only the two dogs exhibiting threatening behaviour. May I ask if both incidents involved a Lab, and it was the same sort of behaviour exhibited, would you be wary of Labs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsdog2 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'm not scared of every dog of this breed as such...but I'm definitely on my guard with Rottweilers. Incident 1....A neighbour's Rotty escaped his yard and I knew her as a friendly dog. I grabbed a lead, called her over, clipped the lead on and walked her back to her house. She seemed relaxed and happy. As soon as we got down the driveway towards the gate (which had blown open), her body language changed and she growled. My blood ran cold. Knowing she had Hanrob obedience training I somehow snapped out a few commands and she obeyed me...while I opened the gate, ushered her in and hurriedly slammed it shut behind her. She was left with my lead attached. It scared the **** out of me. Slightly OT but I wonder if this Rotty got a fright when the gate blew open and when you brought her back and she growled it may actually have something more to do with the gate and what happened originally than you - this being the case I'm sure most breeds (large or small) would have the same reaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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