Inevitablue Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 It was a spinal needle, so long but not fat, so she won't feel too sore. Now the waiting begins! 2-3 days for an initial response...then a few weeks for the final response. She will be loving Christmas at the beach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahnazhu Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Thanks for your wealth of info too Inevitablue! You've been invaluable!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 That's great to hear all is well so far. Looking forward to hearing more updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajtek Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Great that the procedure was successful Fingers crossed for the best possible outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Just a quick update - my boy is considered a good candidate and will have the procedure done at the beginning of February. He will be having both knees and elbows done (hips are okay and back is good). Very excited by it all and can't wait to get it done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyesblue Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 My staffy is having her treatment tomorrow in both elbows for arthritis. Feeling a little worried about my girl about it but really hopefully it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inevitablue Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Don't stress skyesblue, two elbows will take all of 5 minutes. I know the vet who is doing it, and they seem very professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan3 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I know that stem-cell therapy for lymphomas of the bone marrow has been used in research going back a long way and that it is a procedure which is used today. Is it becoming a more viable therapy for a wider range of dogs, and with better outcomes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inevitablue Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) Hi Aidan2, yes bone marrow transplants have utilized hematopoietic stem cells for many years. These stem cells are what generate new blood cells. For osteoarthritis treatments we use mesenchymal stem cells, as these are what assist in the development of bone, cartilage, muscle, fat and myocardium tissue, along with other tissues an adult organism might need to regenerate. Amoung the equine world bone marrow stem cell harvesting is offered but I'm not sure of the surgery required, or the outcomes. For blood disorders it makes sense to use the hematopoietic stem cells, however in recent years the potency of stem cells found in fat, the mesenchymal ones, has proven to have a wider application, plus ease of harvest. I'm unsure if any other organizations are culturing hematopoietic stem cells, would be very beneficial. Prof Richard Boyd has done vast amounts of work to successfully culture mesenchymal stem cells, so hopefully bone marrow transplants won't be anywhere near as painful for humans in the future. Blood derived cells are harder, due to the varying blood types. Edited December 21, 2011 by Inevitablue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan3 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Thanks Inevitablue. It sounds very encouraging, one of the few areas where veterinary science still directly benefits from human biomedical science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyesblue Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Don't stress skyesblue, two elbows will take all of 5 minutes. I know the vet who is doing it, and they seem very professional. Thanks for your supporting words. All went well today and i am really suprised that she is not limping (well no worse than she normally is). Looking forward to the next few weeks and hopefully some positive results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajtek Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Any updates? How are your doglets progressing? Here is mine... My girl is no longer in pain! She plays, she smiles, she is the mistress of the ball However, she is still limping a little on walks and I am hoping to repeat the treatment with intravenous injection of stem cells (rather than the intra-articular injections). Our fantastic vet, Angus from Hornsby Vet Hospital, with kind help from Inevitablue will hopefully make it happen for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Great to hear HonBun! My boy won't have the operation until early Feb, so i'll provide some updates then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajtek Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) When is the treatment Fozzie? On another note.... Kluska's stem cell treatment revealed a couple of other challenges - back pain and knots in her muscles. We took for chiro, trigger point massage and acupuncture. Fantastic improvement! My girl is a teenager again! I am so happy :) Edited February 1, 2012 by HonBun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 My boy had his operation on Tuesday. 5 separate injections, both elbows, knees and one hip. Everything is going well so far. He seems quite comfortable and is bouncing around. My partner works from home and so sees him all day and thinks he is moving more freely. We'll see over the next few weeks how it goes. Interestingly, my boy was also having muscular issues and spasms arising from his joint problems. He has had two cortisone injections in his back (prior to his stem cell therapy) and the benefit was immediate. Glad to read it's going well for you HonBun :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajtek Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Fingers crossed for wonderful recovery :) Please keep us posted We had intravenous injection ("booster") yesterday. We are also continuing chiro + trigger point treatments. (The back and muscle problems were caused by her underlying joint issues) The outcome is WOW WOW WOW WOW. I have a little puppy here not a somewhat mature lady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfsie Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) When is the treatment Fozzie? On another note.... Kluska's stem cell treatment revealed a couple of other challenges - back pain and knots in her muscles. We took for chiro, trigger point massage and acupuncture. Fantastic improvement! My girl is a teenager again! I am so happy :) Would you possibly pm me where you have had it done? As I know a newfie girl that could possibly benifit from this, thank you if you can :) I am on a Newfoundland Forum and a few have had it done successfully on their dogs These were some websites I have looked at http://www.thestar.com/news/article/912929--stem-cells-therapy-has-lexi-wagging-again http://www.adiposestemcell.com.au/index.html Edited February 10, 2012 by newfsie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inevitablue Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Just so you know Newfsie any vet can order the cells. All that's needed is either injecting them into the joint, or on an IV line. HonBun did go to a very good vet though :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajtek Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) Newfsie, I will send you a pm sharing experiences and send you some links. I will take your request as an opportunity to thank the following people for my brand new, active puppy aka 7+yo bully girl: 1. Dr Angus Martin from Hornsby Vet Hospital (http://www.hornsbyvet.com.au/OurPractice/OurStaff/tabid/18630/Default.aspx). He did the stem cell treatment. He is wonderful - professional, knowledgeable, very caring and a lovely person. (He is our vet) 2. Dr Emily Yan from All Natural Vet Care (http://www.naturalvet.com.au/content/content.aspx?l1=NAT0002600). Really good chiro and trigger point therapist and vet (thank you CavsRcute for recommendation) 3. Our own DOL Inevitablue who has patiently guided us through the stem cell journey Edited February 10, 2012 by HonBun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDaz Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 My Staffy had Stem Cell Therapy on the 21st of December on her elbow. From my side I have to say I havent seen any great improvement, the big test will be winter when effect of her problem becomes more pronounced but even now her limp is similar to what it was previous to the procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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