sumosmum Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Teebs, I hope all works out well in Atlas's favour. Poor boy. Hugs to you and Atlas. I know how worried you are Teebs. Sending all healing vibes, love and prayers your way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staranais Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I didnt get all the exact words but she said he has higher urea levels than he should have and mentioned that his urine was too dilated (or not enough?? god i am hopeless). He is going back in on Wednesday to see the specialist and get an ultrasound and go from there Too diluted, probably? Diluted urine with higher than normal urea in the blood suggests kidney issues. Hopefully you get good news from the ultrasound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Everything crossed for just an infection - some antibiotics to fix him up and all will be well... Give the boof a big hug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 That would be it, too diluted. I have been snuggled up on the lounge with him. I am trying to be positive, right now we dont really know anything so will just wait till wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ams Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Sending lots of good wishes your way Teebs. for Atlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 for a good result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted September 28, 2011 He went in and had an ultrasound and he has PKD. The vet i talked to has not had much experience with it but has details of a vet who does, so she is going to ring her this week and have a chat and see where we go from here. Poor boy is sporting a new hairstyle and isnt too happy. I asked what his lifespan will be, she said he may live forever, or he may only have a little time that it is hard to know. So now i need to look into a new diet and as much info as i can to stop this getting worse. I have informed his breeder of it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilli_star Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Oh Teebs No advice to give, just hugs for you and Atlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted September 28, 2011 he is well in himself at the moment, more testing to be done on the weekend. So i am going to be positive and see how we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 poor At - but bet he's enjoying the extra love & cuddles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mags Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 So very sorry to hear it is PKD - hope his symptoms can be kept under control and he lives a long happy life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I think I mentioned on FB that it might be a good idea to contact an holistic vet for advice on diet.. We used all natural vet care in Sydney and they treated Ollie without ever seeing him - our vet used to send his test results through and we had phone consults... Good luck Cin, big hugs to you and At. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 SOrry to hear his doagnosis. Hopefully managing his diet etc helps and he lives a happy, long and trouble free life until he is very old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 thanks everyone SL do you have the vets details? At had another urine test on the weekend, results are not back in as of yet. Once they come in we will know what our next step is. My vet has been talking to a vet who has done a lot of work in PKD in bullies so I am confident we are getting the best help on this. He had his ultrasound a week ago, I noticed today where they clipped him some of the fur is growing back, but there is a red raised bit that does not look nice. does anyone have suggestions on what i can do for this? or is it best to leave it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 It looks a bit like clipper rash to me but its really hard to tell from the pic sorry! If it is clipper rash you could try putting some soothing cream on it, like Neocort or Flamazine if you have any. How long has it been there? Clipper rash usually occurs pretty soon after clipping. Maybe ring your vet and ask? Sorry to hear about his diagnosis I hope you can get his clinical signs under control and that he has many happy years ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 that is what i thought at first, but he was clipped last wednesday and it only showed up today? Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 that is what i thought at first, but he was clipped last wednesday and it only showed up today? Weird thats pretty weird! Has he been licking at the area or anything? Mindy seems to find the area where the clipped and non clipped area meet pretty itchy (she has allergies as well though). You could put flamazine (silver sulfadiazine) as it is soothing and antibacterial with very little side effects (no steroids in it) if you have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 no, he cant reach that area to lick.. and it would take up too much energy! Never had to have a dog clipped before so yeah, thought i would ask here if it is something normal. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullytrax Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) Hi all, thought I would post a little information on PKD. Polycystic Kidney Disease in Bull Terriers (BTPKD) was first detected in the very early 1990's during a kidney study carried out over in WA. By sheer luck becoming public knowledge it made BIG news among us breeders in early 1997. Ultrasound is the only way to detect the disease. Its important the ultrasound is done by an experienced radiologist that KNOWS the criteria and knows what they are looking for. The kidneys look a bit like swiss cheese having fluid filled cysts. The DNA has been sequenced and the mutated gene found and all research completed and all information is in the public domain & now only needs a lab to develop the working test. Most 'responsible' Bullie breeders in 1997 immediately started screening their breeding stock for the disease. Being autosomal dominant (only 1 parent needed to be affected to pass on PKD to up to half the puppies of the litter) it is so easy to screen out affected dogs and within a very short time 'most' breeders had cleaned their stock from the disease. Im not aware of any middle aged Bullies that died from PKD, they generally dealt with it ok and showed no usuall early symptoms, one thing I did notice and heard other owners mention was that an ammonia type smell could be smelt coming from them. Many Bullies with PKD lived well into old age (compared to those with the other known kidney diseaes in our breed which is HN - Hereditary Nephritis) ... but the research showed many were also affected and died these 'early deaths' by heart disease & Hereditary Nephritis. A big % of these were squirters having constant battles with diarrhea. Once you get the urine test back make sure a UP:UC test was done. A UP:UC of 0.3 (not 0.5) and under is normal (breed specific) for Bull Terriers. Its unfortunate Atlas may have PKD but has your vet considered exploring the possibility of Hereditary Nephritis ? As far as diet goes there have been some studies done over the last few years or so and it was found that dogs with kidney problems are better being fed from a good quality protein source at a near normal % range around 20% and more importantly a diet with LOW phosphorous rather than using a low protein diet or some of these specially made low protein dry foods like the prescription range by Hills etc. Personly I dont recommend feeding any dry food at all. There are also plenty of good recipies on the internet. I wish you & Atlas all the best. I was owned by a girl with PKD, diagnosed at 18 months old with a high number & largest cysts found in the research, she was 12 + years old when PTS in my arms due to renal failure. 14 years down the track after we first heard of PKD we still test all our breeding stock for PKD. Please only purchase puppies from Bull Terrier breeders that can prove that they have both parents tested clear for Heart, HN, PKD, Patella & deafness. Edited October 5, 2011 by Bullytrax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted October 6, 2011 Author Share Posted October 6, 2011 Thanks for all that info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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