Adaa & Ankc Agility/jumping Comps

[**Super_Dogs**]

I have competed with ADAA but have registered for my first ANKC comp. I am competing in Novice and Open.

I have read the ANKC rules, but it has not really enlightened me!

Can someone tell me if there are any difference with the comp stucture? I have heard something about 2 runs??

Are there are any rule difference on the obstacles? I have heard the weave rules are different??

Is there any other difference? For example ADAA no collar on dog or food/toys visable in ring.

Thanks in advance for your responses.

Edited September 14, 2011 by buddy1

[Kavik]

In ANKC:

* weaves - Once dog gets entry, if it pops out you get a fault and are not supposed to reattempt or put them back in, but continue on. If you reattempt or put them back in you are disqualified

* dog can wear flat collar (no tags) or no collar

* no rewards to be taken into the ring

* contact obstacles are different sizes to ADAA

* jump heights are different

Edited September 14, 2011 by Kavik

[**Super_Dogs**]

Thanks Kavik.

That is intresting about the weaves. I suppose it is good as you can only get one fault but does help wit reinforcing the dog must complete all weaves.

Does the lead have to be on when you enter/exit the ring?

[Agility Dogs]

Thanks Kavik.

That is intresting about the weaves. I suppose it is good as you can only get one fault but does help wit reinforcing the dog must complete all weaves.

Does the lead have to be on when you enter/exit the ring?

ADAA is a lot more relaxed in their start procedures than ANKC. The upside is that ANKC have lead stewards so you know where your lead will be when you finish.

Some ANKC judges enforce the rules fully, some again are a little more relaxed. You are meant to have your dog on lead when you enter the ring and wait for the judge to ask you to remove it. They will then ask you if you are ready to run - you respond that you are and then you can get going. This may differ at the briefing, but if you follow it you won't get into trouble.

You should also have your dog on lead to leave the ring. (Makes it a touch difficult when judges set the last hurdle almost on the edge of the ring and expect a quick dog to stop before the rope. )

[**Super_Dogs**]

Thanks AD.

Do you get one run like ADAA or 2? I read something about 2 - but what I read was old.

I have heard something about exclusion areas in Open. I am presumming this is an area marked off where the handler cannot go? What happens if you go into the exlusion area - fault or eliminated? If you go get eliminated - can you keep running the course?

[Agility Dogs]

Thanks AD.

Do you get one run like ADAA or 2? I read something about 2 - but what I read was old.

I have heard something about exclusion areas in Open. I am presumming this is an area marked off where the handler cannot go? What happens if you go into the exlusion area - fault or eliminated? If you go get eliminated - can you keep running the course?

Just one run like ADAA.

Yep - think of the exclusion zone like a gamble. (Open in ANKC essentially means a course with an exclusion zone rather than in ADAA where it describes the level of challenge.)

I think it is elimination, but you can keep running the course.

Cheers

T

[krustie22]

gooooooooooooooood luck! :D ill see you there!

we have set pretty simple goals for our run. me = dont get lost...and her = stay motivated and have fun! i wont be correcting her if she misses an obstacle as that will be my error anyway, and it could cause her to shut down. i want her to enjoy it, and get used to the ring and the people etc...best place to do that is at our training grounds i figure!!

as for lead being on/off ive scribed for 2 trials at metro now, and normally you walk ur dog into ring on lead, judge will tell you to remove ur lead, hand it to lead steward, then they will say when ur ready...when you clear the last jump you grab your lead and you have your little party as you slip on the lead. it has been pretty casual each time!

as for the weaves, it confuses me. i have seen one dog pop out, put back in and DQ, then the next dog pops out, gets put back in and it is a fault? mayeb it is only a DQ if you repeat part of the weaves you have already completed? im just gonna hope we hit em at 100mph! ;) she rips through when they come up fast!

[krustie22]

Thanks AD.

Do you get one run like ADAA or 2? I read something about 2 - but what I read was old.

I have heard something about exclusion areas in Open. I am presumming this is an area marked off where the handler cannot go? What happens if you go into the exlusion area - fault or eliminated? If you go get eliminated - can you keep running the course?

yep, it is an area you cannot go. usually a line marked on the ground with paint or ribbon, and consists of about 3 or 4 obstacles, quite often with a tunnel! hehe ive been told open is usually set at excellent level (so in the middle i.e novice > excellent > masters)

It is a DQ if you enter that area. you can still finish the course tho some people persist until their dog takes the exclusion obstacles, and others try once then help the dog by moving closer. i will probably be doing this

[**Super_Dogs**]

Thanks Krustie22 :D Good Luck

[FHRP]

as for the weaves, it confuses me. i have seen one dog pop out, put back in and DQ, then the next dog pops out, gets put back in and it is a fault? mayeb it is only a DQ if you repeat part of the weaves you have already completed? im just gonna hope we hit em at 100mph! ;) she rips through when they come up fast!

The new weave rules can be a little confusing. A dog can not reattempt a gap they missed, but they can continue to weave past a missed gap. So if your dog goes in but misses a pole and continues to weave, or is put back in further on it will be a fault. If it misses a pole and you put it back in the missed gap it is a DQ. Hope that helps!

Make sure you go to the judges briefing where they should also go through their start line procedure which can differ a little between judges. If you have any questions, ask at the briefing!! Good luck and have fun!

[**Super_Dogs**]

as for the weaves, it confuses me. i have seen one dog pop out, put back in and DQ, then the next dog pops out, gets put back in and it is a fault? mayeb it is only a DQ if you repeat part of the weaves you have already completed? im just gonna hope we hit em at 100mph! ;) she rips through when they come up fast!

The new weave rules can be a little confusing. A dog can not reattempt a gap they missed, but they can continue to weave past a missed gap. So if your dog goes in but misses a pole and continues to weave, or is put back in further on it will be a fault. If it misses a pole and you put it back in the missed gap it is a DQ. Hope that helps!

Make sure you go to the judges briefing where they should also go through their start line procedure which can differ a little between judges. If you have any questions, ask at the briefing!! Good luck and have fun!

Thanks for this! So is there any benefit of putting the dogs back in if they pop out instead of just moving on to the next obstacles, in terms of faults of DQ?

How do refusual works for weavers in Open?

[FHRP]

Thanks for this! So is there any benefit of putting the dogs back in if they pop out instead of just moving on to the next obstacles, in terms of faults of DQ?

In terms of faults, nope. If your dogs get a correct entry and pops out after a pole or two you can move straight on to the next obstacle for one fault!

How do refusual works for weavers in Open?

The weaves are judged the same way in Open as in any other Agility or Jumping class.

[**Super_Dogs**]

Thanks FHRP.

This will be my first ANKC comp - so I am not sure how refusals work in any level I am most interested in how rufusals work for weaves as weave entry is the one thing we are very inconsistent.

[FHRP]

Refusal rule for weaves

Refusal rule:

Attempting the Weaving Poles a dog runs past the first pole to the left of the Weaving Poles or

past the second pole to the right of the Weaving Poles.

[krustie22]

refusal is a fault, 3 refusals and its a DQ i think. ive seen a lot of variation on what is a refusal tho sometimes it is obvious, ie dog in front of weaves, then quickly darts round...other times i dont think the dog has even seen them, and followed handler and it has been called refusal, while other times it would have been "play on" so to speak. i guess it would be down to interpretation of the rule? pays to watch the judges and get to know them a little i guess

FHRP thanks! that helps a lot!!!! tho we wont be correcting anything tonight...it is about FUN and MOTIVATION! hehehe

[**Super_Dogs**]

Thanks everyone. I think I have it......if not I will soon find out.

[toshman]

Thanks FHRP.

This will be my first ANKC comp - so I am not sure how refusals work in any level I am most interested in how rufusals work for weaves as weave entry is the one thing we are very inconsistent.

If you're not sure about how refusals work when you're in the ring, listen to the judge! They usually call out 'REFUSAL' loudly enough for you to hear.....saves getting muddled.....