Pitbull Terriers Won't Be Banned From The Suburbs Of Moreton Bay R

[Guest donatella]

you said "its legal here i doubt its dog fighting",

What??? Please learn to read.

Thankyou

ahem, your words exactly:

Dog fighting is illegal here so you're not going to see someone using their dog for fighting

It's pretty simple and straightforward, and totally different to what you said I posted.

different wording, same content ie. its illegal here so it doesn't happen. not quite the case with illegal activities.

[raz]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you've misplaced your reading glasses. This is what I said:

Dog fighting is illegal here so you're not going to see someone using their dog for fighting, especially in a suburban backyard where neighbours can look in.

This was your reply:

you said "its legal here i doubt its dog fighting",

Here's a plan...dont try to quote someone if you cant find your glasses.

eta and if you think you can just walk in to an underground dog fighting ring off the street, goodluck.

Edited September 4, 2011 by raz

[Guest donatella]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you've misplaced your reading glasses. This is what I said:

Dog fighting is illegal here so you're not going to see someone using their dog for fighting, especially in a suburban backyard where neighbours can look in.

This was your reply:

you said "its legal here i doubt its dog fighting",

Here's a plan...dont try to quote someone if you cant find your glasses.

eta and if you think you can just walk in to an underground dog fighting ring off the street, goodluck.

my apologies for not using the exact quote button, my intention was relaying the content of your message. you basically said 'its illegal here so you're not going to see someone use their dog for dog fighting". i guess that means that drugs don't happen either because they're illegal, what a crazy way of thinking you've got, each to their own i guess

[raz]

Oh for goodness sake. Conversation over.

[geo]

Donatella,

Please do a little more reading to find out about the true APBT. Spring poles, treadmills, etc..a re all healthy ways of exercising your dog and keeping them mentally stimulated.

My friend cages his pitbull, she is lovely, very friendly but due to the legislation / stigma lacks some socialisation with other animals. except her neighbours dosg who she likes to play with.

The whole concept of dobbing in a dog just on social prejudice is just so wrong and now many many pets will die.

[GeckoTree]

i hope its being treated well is all i can say.

What's to say it isnt? The owner is obviously abiding by the legislation. Just because he and his friends werent wearing designer jeans and RM Williams, drinking Dom and throwing wagyu on the BBQ doesnt mean they're not a good owner. You were extremely judgmental and the real worry at the moment with all of this kind of hysteria is people just like yourself will have a kneejerk reaction and dob people in who arent doing anything wrong.

my main worry and suspicion is that they are using to dog for fighting. i'm doing some research on it now and the equipment in the dogs pen seems to match what people use to train their fighters with (ie what i now know as a spring pole which is what the dog was jumping at from the roof and they use this to strengthen the dogs jaw muscles). all i'm saying is the situation looked suss, a gut instinct, i'm not one to pry into others business but i got a bad feeling, and i could be 100% wrong. i dont care what people do with their pit bulls and i have no problem with any dog breed, i love all animals big and small but if i saw that someone was using the dog for fighting purposes this is clearly animal abuse and i could not stand back and watch that happen.

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[espinay2]

I didnt say it doesnt happen. Cooking meth is illegal and I'm sure it's done but you're not going to see meth being cooked by sticking your head over a neighbour's fence to look into their yard either.

If the hoodie wearers are doing something illegal, do you really think they'd be dumb enough to do it in full view of nosey neighbours?

you said "its legal here i doubt its dog fighting", hence my comment on illegal activities.

i was walking my dogs, they didnt have neighbours, a spare block of land on one side and bush in front of them. if they are innocent parties and doing the right thing (which i have already learnt they have been with the dog sign and containing their dog in another pen) then they have nothing to worry about do they.

Nothing to worry about except maybe people walking past who buy into the media hysteria, jump to conclusions and perpetuate that hysteria leading to more and more breeds being banned, dogs being confiscated for no reason except their breed and the end of dog ownership as we know it.

And all because someone saw them with their dog in their backyard and their immediate reaction - when all these people may have been trying to do was make sure their legally kept dog did not just sit in a pen and slowly go crazy from lack of stimulation and boredom - was that they were suspicious and obviously doing something wrong.

I am sorry but IMO it this is the type of thinking that ALL dog owners should be worried about. It is the type of thinking that leads to and creates 'mob mentality' and running people out on a rail (or in this case breed hysteria and BSL )

Edited September 4, 2011 by espinay2

[aussielover]

What would be the consequences of reporting this dog?

Am I right in assuming that if they are adhering to the dangerous dog restrictions then they are safe? Or would the dog be at risk of being seized and PTS?

[m-j]

i dont know about you lot, but when i play with my girl in my own home its not when she's behind a fence or cage, its generally interaction between us both so i can pat her and throw her toys and balls.

Donatella what does your dog do when she gets hold of her toy? Has playing with her toy encouraged her to be aggressive and want to fight other dogs?

[GeckoTree]

I really hope Morton bay sticks to it's guns in keeping registrations rather than be a lemming of other SEQ local councils, as the article states.

[KOE]

If the owners are teaching the dog to be aggressive then it needs to be investigated. I don't see how a group of bogan looking men in hoodies standing around a caged pit bull cheering it on as it was jumping and mauling something tied to the roof is normal. if this already aggressive dog (as indicated on the sign) gets out it HAS potential to hurt or kill others (adults, kids, pets etc). Dogs should be socialized and safe to society. It might be aggressive and caged in it's backyard now, but if it gets out it could be a repeat of the Melbourne toddler killing. Im not saying all put bulls are monsters but when I see a group of sinister looking men possibly training this dog bad habits something needs to be done.

1 how do you know they are bogans do you know them, did you go and introduce yourself to work out they are bogans.

2 how do you know the animal is a PITBULL did you go and have a look up close or are you knowledgable enough in dog breeds to declare so

3 so was it a toy the dog was playing with oh sorry mauling did you look

4 so because a sign says something it pertains to that dog

oh my sinister men are you really sure or were they regular guys having a chat and watching a dog playing.

God help us all

[RottnBullies]

God help us all

Unfortunately that about sums It up!

I agree Snook, but only because It was posted here, there are thousands of donatella's everywhere who don't bother to learn and continue to live In Ignorance

[Atanquin]

I think donatella was just being concerned about a dog locked in a cage that looked like it was being provoked and it doesn't sound like don was meaning any harm if anything was just concerned for the dog. I have stood around my dog laughing at at him barking and growling at a new toy if someone walked past they might see him as being aggressive instead of just playing

[coogie]

no point in reporting when pit bulls are actually allowed in the Moreton Bay area, but way to over exaggerate

No point reporting it to Moreton Region Council at all if you were walking at Redlands Bay - it is not even in Moreton's catchment area. We already have very strict dog legislation in Moreton Shire - and it is quite strictly policed. Hopefully they will not review their policy but continue to look at individual ownner/dog behaviour rather than adopting blanket BSL type legislation that has been proven not to work elsewhere.

There are a lot of "Amstaff" / bully type breeds in certain areas of the council boundaries,some in suitable homes some not, (but I think this goes for every breed type) and in all honesty I have been rushed by far more uncontrolled and uncontained small breeds when leash walking my two. I don't have a bull breed but can understand why owners are so worried - I have been asked if my girl is a pitty (because of her reddy brown nose). She is a Shar Pei for crying out loud, friends of ours with bully breeds are very worried as one family in particular have an adoptee from a local shelter who is registered as a crossbreed but pretty much ticks all the boxes as far as visual id for a pitbull goes.I can only hope sense prevails here (after the last debacle in Qld with this type of legislation which resulted in innocent family pets being pts) and there is not a knee jerk reaction encouraged by the local paper promoting hysteria or by a sudden rush of "concerned" members of the public calling the council with spurious or malicious complaints.