Maddy Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Was all of that growling real- some sounded pretty fake to me.. Disgusting regardless. I think it was fake too I diddnt even bother with the 2nd video, the growls sent shivers down my spines though... The second video put the first clip into context more so it was certainly worth watching. It's just a dog who's been trained to "guard" and growl when her guarded object is threatened. Zipping up my flame suit here- it's just a demonstration of a dog doing what she has been trained to do- growl in certain situations. It certainly looks stupid and dangerous but then.. I believe there are people on this forum who compete in schutzhund, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkehre Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Was all of that growling real- some sounded pretty fake to me.. Disgusting regardless. I think it was fake too I diddnt even bother with the 2nd video, the growls sent shivers down my spines though... The second video put the first clip into context more so it was certainly worth watching. It's just a dog who's been trained to "guard" and growl when her guarded object is threatened. Zipping up my flame suit here- it's just a demonstration of a dog doing what she has been trained to do- growl in certain situations.It certainly looks stupid and dangerous but then.. I believe there are people on this forum who compete in schutzhund, no? Yes, that is exactly what it is, but the point is... what sane person would teach their dog to resource guard one member of the family from another member of the family?! They are showing their total disregard and disrespect for their dog and their child and flaunting their stupidity internationally. Anyone with an ounce of sense would not train this unless they were prepared to risk the consequences. And anyone willing to risk the consequences does not deserve to have children or dogs, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swizzlestick Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share Posted August 17, 2011 It's just a dog who's been trained to "guard" and growl when her guarded object is threatened. Zipping up my flame suit here- it's just a demonstration of a dog doing what she has been trained to do- growl in certain situations. How do you know she's been trained to guard the baby, and that it's not her natural guarding instinct kicking in. Nothing in the video suggests to me she's been trained for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 It's just a dog who's been trained to "guard" and growl when her guarded object is threatened. Zipping up my flame suit here- it's just a demonstration of a dog doing what she has been trained to do- growl in certain situations. How do you know she's been trained to guard the baby, and that it's not her natural guarding instinct kicking in. Nothing in the video suggests to me she's been trained for this. Did you watch the second video? She has been taught a "guard it" command. The dog is told to guard something and so she guards it. Yes, that is exactly what it is, but the point is... what sane person would teach their dog to resource guard one member of the family from another member of the family?! What sane person would teach their dog to actually attack other people on command? It's the same thing (if not worse) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkehre Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Whether the dog has actually been trained to guard the baby from the get go or the dog has done it instinctively and then been further encouraged to do so (which is still teaching the behaviour) is not entirely clear to me, but either way, I still say this is unacceptable. I am not even going to waste my time responding to HA's interpretation of Schutzhund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 I am not even going to waste my time responding to HA's interpretation of Schutzhund. :rolleyes: Probably for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swizzlestick Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share Posted August 17, 2011 It's just a dog who's been trained to "guard" and growl when her guarded object is threatened. Zipping up my flame suit here- it's just a demonstration of a dog doing what she has been trained to do- growl in certain situations. How do you know she's been trained to guard the baby, and that it's not her natural guarding instinct kicking in. Nothing in the video suggests to me she's been trained for this. Did you watch the second video? She has been taught a "guard it" command. The dog is told to guard something and so she guards it. Yes, sorry I just watched that one now. Hadn't watched it until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Where is the second video?- the only other one I saw was of a rottie resource guarding a rope- equally as idiotic and dangerous as the first video. Irrespective of whether the dog has been trained to do this or not- it is unacceptable and dangerous to teach a dog to guard a baby from its own family!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) I don't care how easy going a dog is, this is just wrong, and an accident waiting to happen. And that's someone who, when an accident happens, would say "but I WAS right there supervising!" :rolleyes: . Edited August 17, 2011 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybeece Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Wow way to go, antagonising a dog using babies. Idiots! My dog has no problem with the kitten wandering up and sticking her head in his bowl while he's eating or even pinching food out of it. Doesn't mean I let her and no way would I encourage it. I've always been of the opinion that if you're lucky enough to have a tolerant dog it shouldn't be abused or else you may one day discover their tolerance has a very real limit. Testing that limit with babies is especially idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirislin Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Any idiot can own a dog, you cant legislate against morons choosing any type or size or temperament of dog and training it to do whatever they want it to, or allowing it to do as it pleases. The only time something is done about it is after an attack. I dont know what the answer is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 YouTube is full of such crap. I came across one last week, of a GSD frantically trying to "kill" his tail while the owners actively encouraged him to "kill the robber" and saying how glad they were that they bought a Shepherd . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dory the Doted One Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 (edited) Can't you report these clips? Edited August 18, 2011 by Dory the Doted One Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Can't you report these clips? I'm not sure what grounds you could report them on. Unfortunately stupidity is not against the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemesideways Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Why the hell would you want your dog acting like this!???!?!? This is the same rottie. Told to "guard".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Love Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Why the hell would you want your dog acting like this!???!?!? This is the same rottie. Told to "guard".... He is asking to have his face bitten off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarope Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 What attracts retards to this wonderful breed. To teach a dog of any breed to react like this is just madness to say the least,and of cause it's just a matter of time before the dog bites someone and the poor breed gets the blame again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swizzlestick Posted August 19, 2011 Author Share Posted August 19, 2011 I just wonder at what stage does a dog like this act on the threat to what she is guarding? When does growl and stare turn to bite? Is it only on command, or sooner ? Makes me cringe watching this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortonplace Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 These stupid clips need to be shown when people do get bitten. To show the public why these accidents happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruffy n Flea Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 wrong on enuf levels to make a difference... i'm off to report it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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