Fynesse Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I was considering buying another bc puppy as a companion for my nearly year old BC male. However my conscience has gotten the better of me and I just can't buy from a breeder when there are so many rescue dogs needing homes, so I will soon be looking for a rescue dog that fits. My BC is a desexed male and has a lovely temperament (quite submissive). Should I be looking for a female dog, or will another desexed male be ok as well, as long as it isnt too dominant? Or is that just asking for trouble? The last thing I want is to introduce another dog and have it be very dominant over my boy and have him scared in what is basically 'his' yard. He will be coming with us when we start looking so we can see how they get on, but just wondering if I should just exclude one or the other from the list from the start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 No benefit in taking your dog to meet the new dog & see how they get on. The rescue will know if the new dog is friendly with other dogs & how they are in your dogs territory is not the same as meeting somewhere more neutral. No difference if its male or female if its desexed. The dominance is not related to its sex, or rather lack of if desexed. Its the nature of the dog, or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I would go with a girl if you are getting an adult. She will probably still end up being the boss as the girls usually are in Borders but there shouldn't really be any conflict between a dog and bitch. If you were getting a puppy a male with the right temperament could work because you would have the advantage of raising the new puppy from scratch, letting your dog teach him the rules and you know exactly what has and hasn't happened to him during his life. A rescue dog is always a gamble when you don't know the history. Memories of past events can trigger unexpected behaviours so you need to be much more careful. Maybe also consider a bitch from a breeder who hasn't made the grade as a show dog or has had a litter before being moved on to a lifetime home. These dogs need homes too and you have the advantage of them being trained, socialised and you know the history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabel964 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I think it's a great idea to take your dog to meet potential siblings. Like people, some dogs just don't get on, regardless of territory. I'd get a female if I was you. Good on you for rescuing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayle. Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 You can get rescue dogs through breeders. I got Shae (Australian Shepherd) from a breeder, she is a rescue dog and was rehomed to me as such through the breed rescue service. Dogs are sometimes returned to breeders for various reasons.....in Shae's case she was returned twice, through no fault of her own. The breeders take them back and rehome, rather than the dog being dumped in a pound or shelter. She came with a main registered pedigree, the breeder was very familiar with her history and I knew what to expect when she came here. I would not get a rescue dog through a shelter or general rescue group, but I'd definitely rescue via a breeder again, it's been a very positive experience. As far as male or female, with a neuter it's pretty much a personal choice. I like both and my heart seems to be with the girls, but in all honesty the boys have better temperaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 If you go to a really good rescue they will match your dog.( not all rescue's are good).You get time to see how they settle, and the dog can be returned if it doesn't work out. Getting a mature dog from a breeder as suggested can be good too, but beware, not all are socialised etc, some are kept in runs until they are no use anymore.so have no idea of the real world.( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fynesse Posted August 9, 2011 Author Share Posted August 9, 2011 Thanks guys. Ill be looking for something about a year old. Ideally would like something about the same age as Angus. Im a fitness freak, so need something that can run with Angus and I right away, which wouldnt work with a puppy. I am looking through breeders as well, but havent really found anything that suits, but will keep an eye oout just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdie Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 (edited) There is a Border collie on pet rescue called Indigo in the Hawkesbury area.She sounds very nice.Worth a look. edited to add....Indigo is in foster care,and discribed as sweet and gentle. http://www.petrescue.com.au/view/110051 found the link Edited August 10, 2011 by Purdie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdie Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I think one male and one female together is usually pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 (edited) Hi, I have one of each & they are both BC's & both desexed. I was advised strongly against getting 2 males even if they were to be both desexed by various very reputable breeders. I had my heart on this beautiful male for a mate for Sonny but after this knowledge I brought home a little girl. They get on famously well together. Sonny wears the pants though & he is not a bossy boots by any means. Stella is very fiesty, but thats the way it has worked out here. Couldn't be happier. Was advised not to get 2 girls either as they are worse than the fellas apparently. I certainly didn't want to jeopardise Sonny's welfare or my relationship with him so I was very careful about who I invited into our home. My little girl is very closely breed to Sonny. From the same lines. Hope I have been of help & good luck with your quest. Oh, if you want to foster, thats great. Just got to be careful of their temp. I had a wonderful foster for almost 15 years, my heart dog he was but he had been so mistreated/abused i couldn't socialize him with other dogs, he would just rip them to sheds. I was the only one that could handle him & he hated men. Don't mean to deter you from foster at all. Sorry for the long winded post. Edited August 10, 2011 by BC Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roguedog Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 there is a gorgeous little BC girl at puppy love rescue (Lucy, listed on petrescue), ive had the pleasure of meeting her and she is extremely sweet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fynesse Posted August 10, 2011 Author Share Posted August 10, 2011 Interesting Roguedog, I had seen and tagged Lucy as a possibility as she sounds very much like the boy I have now! My boy LOVES water and will swim all day if given the chance. Plus she is only on the central coast, so that is nice and close Only issue is that we might soon be moving (funnily enough to the central coast) so things are a bit up in the air (just in terms of when the most appropriate time to get another dog is, but I just posted this so I could be prepared) Is Lucy in foster care? (ie/ not sitting on death row?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keetamouse Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 No difference if its male or female if its desexed. The dominance is not related to its sex, or rather lack of if desexed. Its the nature of the dog, or not. I strongly agree with you Christina and so does my dog behaviouralist, I keep telling people it is not the sex of the dog it is the nature of the dogs, you can get 2 placid girls and 2 placid boys and they will be best friends, you can get a boy and a girl and one can be dominant, and vice versa. I have rehomed many boys and girls together it has always been the nature of the dogs. I would be looking at the natures of the dogs and then go from there. Maree CPR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baileys mum Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I also agree it's the nature of the dog & not the sex...I have 2 entire boys here,( father & son )they get along just fine, & so far I have had no serious problems. I also have 2 bitches, 1 is entire & the other is desexed & they also get along with each just fine. So far my little pack is living together in harmony despite their sexes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baileys mum Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 There is a Border collie on pet rescue called Indigo in the Hawkesbury area.She sounds very nice.Worth a look. edited to add....Indigo is in foster care,and discribed as sweet and gentle. http://www.petrescue.com.au/view/110051 found the link Awww...Indigo seems lovely, I think it would be really worthwhile for the OP to check her out,it looks as if she ticks all the boxes of what they are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdie Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Yes indeed Baileys mum;Indigo looks a real sweetheart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayle. Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 My most dominant dog is a 5yo bitch who was neutered at 8 weeks. She will posture over every dog she meets, front up to them, growl and generally make a big dick of herself being a tough girl. She pees by lifting her leg if there are other dogs around. She is my smallest dog by a long way but she thinks she's ten feet tall. The only dogs I've ever had problems with as far as fighting is her and a neutered boy (who has since died). The entire pair I have here are absolutely fine with each other, the two girls are brilliant, my two boys were fantastic, but I had to be really careful with the two neuters not to upset the applecart. A bit of kibble accidentally dropped on the floor near the two of them was enough to start a fight. I don't believe it's the gender mix, nor do I believe it's the entire/neuter state, it's simply the temperaments of the dogs involved. They might get along fine with every other dog they meet but that one just sets them right off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toy dog Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) you can find a rescue dog with a pleasant nature who gets on fine with your other dog. fostered dogs are a good idea as the foster carer will tell you how the dog is with other dogs, cats etc. etc. and match you up with the dog. then be there if anything goes wrong anyway. it really depends on the history combined with the temperament of the dog in question. example: brother got "patch" a border collie cross male desexed from RSPCA I got a rescue pointer cross kelpie cross male desexed "jake" from a rescue organisation. they were fine together when we'd visit then patch started protecting my brothers female desexed golden retriever, it was his female so jake and patch ended up having big fights so we had to seperate.. i said that i think patch was used as a breeding dog in his past as he was also humping Pru the GR bitch even though desexed and going through those motions. having said that, i got my dog jake because of his gentle nature towards little dogs, my chihuahuas love him. when we first met him and brought my little dogs into the rescuers living room he growled i said, i don't think he will suit, rescuer said that is what he does with all dogs he meets. gives a growl then settles down. patch was a very dominant dog used to also guard my brothers sofa and not let any of his friends sit on it it was his sofa. lol so its all about their past history and also their temperament as well combined. you can find a very placid dog in both sexes. but i always advise people to get a male and female as usually there are no dominance issues about guarding bitches if they have been used for breeding before and it is a behaviour that can be hard for them to snap out of if its been there for years. but really it is all about matching dogs temperaments up having one dominant and one submissive or both submissive works well i find. Edited August 11, 2011 by toy dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) Slightly offtopic , sorry ... i said that i think patch was used as a breeding dog in his past as he was also humping Pru the GR bitch even though desexed and going through those motions. patch was a very dominant dog used to also guard my brothers sofa and not let any of his friends sit on it it was his sofa. perhaps that's the reason he was humping... he was showing just how dominant he was. .... Edited August 11, 2011 by persephone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toy dog Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Slightly offtopic , sorry ... i said that i think patch was used as a breeding dog in his past as he was also humping Pru the GR bitch even though desexed and going through those motions. patch was a very dominant dog used to also guard my brothers sofa and not let any of his friends sit on it it was his sofa. perhaps that's the reason he was humping... he was showing just how dominant he was. .... yep i agree, however he wasn't my dog so my brother used to just laugh at this and let him do the things he was doing. think it was funny.....i told him that i'd never let a dog do the things he was doing it was dangerous, this dog had even tried to spring up and nip me on the nose but i moved my nose just intime and then he told me that my dog was the agressive dominant one not his dog : confused: ( i guess its a family thing lol) so some people you can't tell them only suggest eventhough he has owned dogs for 5 minutes compared to my 26 years. but then i managed to convince him to bring in a personal trainer so he did that then gave the dog to another person. hopefully this other person has managed to control the dominance issue in the dog and not think its all funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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