Suitable Diet For My Puppy ?

[ezzag77]

Hi,

Once my puppy is 12 weeks old we are going to slowly change his diet from what the breeder reccomended. she told us till he was 12 weeks to have him on BARF and ADVANCE rehydratable biscuits.

I am thinking of using a mixture of a dry dog food with just human grade mince or diced steak or chicken. Whatevers on special. We will also give him flaxseed meal once a day. sometimes I may mix this meat up with brown rice and some vegies to make the dollar stretch further.

Is this going to be ok. Would the meat be better raw or cooked? I am worried about giving him to much preservitives etc. as I am worried about him ending up with allergies.

The vet reccomended a dry food and TUCKER TIME dog roll. I checked ingredients and it seems all pretty natural but wonder if these rolls are fattening and how do they stay fresh at shop for so long without any badies in there. the vet did not like BARF at all due to big bones being crushed up and the dog never being able to digest these. she mentioned something about seeing how it moves throught the intestines and can scratch the wall with these small bones. Its probally to expensive anyone for me to stay on.

Ta

[Sandra777]

Meat on it's own (without bone) is not suitable for a puppy. They MUST have minerals etc. to grow properly and these minerals for the most part are in the bones of the animals the dog eats. The problem is if you offer meat and dry food the pup will (naturally!) prefer to eat meat so you might end up in a situation where the dog eats meat and leaves the dry food so isn't getting the diet you think it's getting.

Me, I would be ditching the vet and getting one that is at least willing to entertain the idea that dogs, which are carnivores, are designed to digest meat, sinew, offal and <gasp> bone!

It depends a little bit on the breed but for most rice and vege is not ideal for any dog and especially not for puppies - with little ones it fills them up without providing anything they can actually digest, with the big breed pups it can unbalance a diet and give you huge bone issues as they grow.

Did the person you bought the puppy off seem to know what they were talking about? If so I would be inclined to believe they know a fair bit more about how to raise their breed of choice than the average vet does!

IMO all meat for dogs should be raw unless there is a very specific reason to cook it (sick dog, allergy etc)

[persephone]

Whilst growing, your puppy needs his food to be pure nourishment, not starchy stuff like rice /veg.

if it's going to be a stretch to feed your pup the right mix of foods... then buy butcher's offcuts/bones..pet mince (which should have minced bone in ) chicken carcasses/wings.Also eggs, cheese,yoghurt (plain) and a good puppy kibble .

meat should be fed raw...and NEVER cook bones. They become indigestible, and also may splinter .

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[ezzag77]

Breeder said as an adult she feeds abut 1/3 meat, 1/3 dry food, 1/3 vegies/brown rice. he has been breeding for 30 years and knows what she is talking abut i reckon.

She stated NEVER give bones as bull terrier's jaws are extremely powerful.

I am happy to ask butcher for their mince. i just thought it may have been all fatty and no good for them, but if you say its ok then i would give them that mixed with dry food. Maybe wont add rice and vegies anymore now. I can afford good food for him , but i just through BARF was pretty damn expensive and a bit too much. when i looked into a solid RAW diet - that seemed too complicted.

[Sandra777]

Yep - that's as an adult, at 10 weeks he needs puppy food.

I have Staffords, they have jaws at least as powerful as mini bulls and my guys all have bone - but edible bone, not great big leg bones and such like.

I think it would pay to phone the breeder and have a chat because you seem a bit confuzzled and concerned

[Dogsfevr]

We have used Tucker Time roll for over 20 yrs now wonderful product but we only use the garlic one.

As for mince we use the Mutton mince from better pets or city farmers wonderful stuff,Tucker time has a new chicken mince out that is also very good

edit to add Time

Edited August 5, 2011 by showdog

[HollyE]

showdog - Are you referring to 'Tucker Time'?, I absolutely love it and feed it to my puppy and adult dog.

I feed 3/4 kibble and the other quarter raw, chicken necks, mince, beef mince etc and add tucker time puppy in there!

He has kibble through out the day and raw + TT at night but I never mix raw with kibble due to the digestion rates (can cause bloat etc).

I don't feed rice, pasta, veggies or any 'cheap' filler and give apple and plain Greek yoghurt as a treat, though Rilo has never had this yet!

Bones are also fed though when he is a little older, I can say it does help having two brothers who manages butcher shops

I am unsure if this is any help, We have used this diet for a while now with great results! Though every dog is different!

[SparkyTansy]

Hi,

Once my puppy is 12 weeks old we are going to slowly change his diet from what the breeder reccomended. she told us till he was 12 weeks to have him on BARF and ADVANCE rehydratable biscuits.

I am thinking of using a mixture of a dry dog food with just human grade mince or diced steak or chicken. Whatevers on special. We will also give him flaxseed meal once a day. sometimes I may mix this meat up with brown rice and some vegies to make the dollar stretch further.

Is this going to be ok. Would the meat be better raw or cooked? I am worried about giving him to much preservitives etc. as I am worried about him ending up with allergies.

The vet reccomended a dry food and TUCKER TIME dog roll. I checked ingredients and it seems all pretty natural but wonder if these rolls are fattening and how do they stay fresh at shop for so long without any badies in there. the vet did not like BARF at all due to big bones being crushed up and the dog never being able to digest these. she mentioned something about seeing how it moves throught the intestines and can scratch the wall with these small bones. Its probally to expensive anyone for me to stay on.

Ta

Oh no... I think you need to change vets. I am not actually sure how it is possible for vets to actually believe this, with their scientific minds and all, however those pet food companies do a real number brainwashing them in vet school I guess.

[HollyE]

Hi,

Once my puppy is 12 weeks old we are going to slowly change his diet from what the breeder reccomended. she told us till he was 12 weeks to have him on BARF and ADVANCE rehydratable biscuits.

I am thinking of using a mixture of a dry dog food with just human grade mince or diced steak or chicken. Whatevers on special. We will also give him flaxseed meal once a day. sometimes I may mix this meat up with brown rice and some vegies to make the dollar stretch further.

Is this going to be ok. Would the meat be better raw or cooked? I am worried about giving him to much preservitives etc. as I am worried about him ending up with allergies.

The vet reccomended a dry food and TUCKER TIME dog roll. I checked ingredients and it seems all pretty natural but wonder if these rolls are fattening and how do they stay fresh at shop for so long without any badies in there. the vet did not like BARF at all due to big bones being crushed up and the dog never being able to digest these. she mentioned something about seeing how it moves throught the intestines and can scratch the wall with these small bones. Its probally to expensive anyone for me to stay on.

Ta

Oh no... I think you need to change vets. I am not actually sure how it is possible for vets to actually believe this, with their scientific minds and all, however those pet food companies do a real number brainwashing them in vet school I guess.

I have to say, I do agree! Especially with their kibble ideas :D

[RiverStar-Aura]

When I got Kirah (Aust. Terrier), I went through every combination of food possible for a puppy. I wanted to try raw as I've never fed any pet raw and ended up confusing myself, so while she's a pup, I'm sticking with kibble so I know she's getting the right nutrients to assist with the growth process. What I did realise though is that when it comes to raw, I don't think you can go wrong. Dogs in the wild aren't concerned about "lean cuts" or the "fatty cuts" and I don't really think pets are much different.

But at the moment I'm happy to give mine an all kibble diet with a bone a week. Zeus gets big meaty ones and little Kirah loves chomping on her chicken wings. Maybe when Kirah's older I'll look at switching both to a mix of raw and dry again.

[ezzag77]

showdog - Are you referring to 'Tucker Time'?, I absolutely love it and feed it to my puppy and adult dog.

I feed 3/4 kibble and the other quarter raw, chicken necks, mince, beef mince etc and add tucker time puppy in there!

He has kibble through out the day and raw + TT at night but I never mix raw with kibble due to the digestion rates (can cause bloat etc).

I don't feed rice, pasta, veggies or any 'cheap' filler and give apple and plain Greek yoghurt as a treat, though Rilo has never had this yet!

Bones are also fed though when he is a little older, I can say it does help having two brothers who manages butcher shops

I am unsure if this is any help, We have used this diet for a while now with great results! Though every dog is different!

Thanks HollyE that helps.

[Mason_Gibbs]

My allergy dog gets a combo diet of raw and kibble it works best for him and will be feeding same to my pup except i will use puppy biscuits obviously. My lab gets kibble, mince a bone 1x a day and then sardines ( fresh not tinned) cheese, egg etc. I do give him some veg too if we are having

[joelle]

I feed tucker time and kibble too. also chicken raw frames, lamb, meaty bones and sardines.

My new pup is on 'pro plan' I've never used this, but the breeder has the pup on it so I'll stick with it for a while and introduce the rest slowly :D