Dee_al Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Up until recently, Jax loved other dog. He loved socialising and meeting new dogs. But now it seems its all changed. He growls at new dogs and just seems unhappy with.other dogs being around. But its only when im around! If OH.takes.him for.a walk or takes him to.a friends house, he is the way he used to be. I come into the equation and it all changes! Why is.he doing this? (hes been socialied and has been doing obediance classes since.he was 12 weeks). Its kinda upsetting as I do intend on adding.a second dog to the family in the next year or so, but im worried about how he would react to a puppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happypaws Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Up until recently, Jax loved other dog. He loved socialising and meeting new dogs. But now it seems its all changed. He growls at new dogs and just seems unhappy with.other dogs being around. But its only when im around! If OH.takes.him for.a walk or takes him to.a friends house, he is the way he used to be. I come into the equation and it all changes! Why is.he doing this? (hes been socialied and has been doing obediance classes since.he was 12 weeks). Its kinda upsetting as I do intend on adding.a second dog to the family in the next year or so, but im worried about how he would react to a puppy. Have you been doing obedience with him ? Has your routines with him changed at all ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee_al Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 Hes been goin to obediance since he was 12 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Hes been goin to obediance since he was 12 weeks Who takes him - you or OH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Up until recently, Jax loved other dog. He loved socialising and meeting new dogs. But now it seems its all changed. He growls at new dogs and just seems unhappy with.other dogs being around. But its only when im around! If OH.takes.him for.a walk or takes him to.a friends house, he is the way he used to be. I come into the equation and it all changes! Why is.he doing this? (hes been socialied and has been doing obediance classes since.he was 12 weeks). Its kinda upsetting as I do intend on adding.a second dog to the family in the next year or so, but im worried about how he would react to a puppy. To me it sounds like a dominance issue, the dog is compelled to become a leader and hence the growling while he is with you and not OH.. Your OH has established the leadership role between the them.. I would suggest everytime you see him getting to the stage of growling or the slightest aggression you correct your dog with a stern name call and a pull on the leash. you need to establish yourself as the leader and make the dog feel you have the situation under control. so the dog doesnt have to worry. If you dont correct the behaviour now I believe it will get worse.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Oh and the dog isnt being protective, its being aggrssive.. the difference is the dog is protective when there is a threat... if your dog is the insitigator its aggression.... where if the other dog is showing aggression first and your dog responds to protect you then there is the diference.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~*Shell*~ Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 (edited) I would suggest everytime you see him getting to the stage of growling or the slightest aggression you correct your dog with a stern name call and a pull on the leash. you need to establish yourself as the leader and make the dog feel you have the situation under control. so the dog doesnt have to worry. You would correct your dog after the use of it's name? All you'll teach the dog is to dislike it's name because it comes with a correction. My advice is to go and see a behaviourist who can see why your dog is acting the way it is and who can come up with a rehabilitation plan to fix it before it escalates. Aggression shouldn't be dealt with over the internet and a lot of aggression problems have nothing to do with dominance. I had a lot of people tell me my dog's aggression was a dominance thing - it wasn't, it was fear. Worked on the fear (and got him to look to me for cues) and the aggression went away. We went to see k9pro - he was amazing. In Victoria, maybe you could get in contact with Erny? I've met her and she's lovely :D If she can't help, she might know someone who can. Edited July 26, 2011 by ~*Shell*~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayle. Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Go and see Jane at the obedience club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I personaly do not reccomend correcting a dog for growling at other dogs because then you teach the dog to not give any warning signalls and you'll end up with a dog that just attacks. It's best to see a Behaviourist, they will be able to help you with the relationship you have with your dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Oh and the dog isnt being protective, its being aggrssive.. the difference is the dog is protective when there is a threat... if your dog is the insitigator its aggression.... where if the other dog is showing aggression first and your dog responds to protect you then there is the diference.. Don't diagnose aggression over the internet please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Dee Al - this needs the help of a professional Some one recommended , who can accurately assess what's happening , and work with you to put a stop to this behaviour. Aggression is not something to experiment with . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee_al Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 Yeah, jane helped heaps with kane. I take him to class, oh wont even come watch. I dont think he thinks hes boss, im the only one he will follow around, he only follows my commands so he knows im boss. Everytime he does it ge gets growled at and I move him away for a bit then bring him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W Sibs Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) Definitely seek a professional for help. Edited July 27, 2011 by CW EW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I would suggest everytime you see him getting to the stage of growling or the slightest aggression you correct your dog with a stern name call and a pull on the leash. you need to establish yourself as the leader and make the dog feel you have the situation under control. so the dog doesnt have to worry. You would correct your dog after the use of it's name? All you'll teach the dog is to dislike it's name because it comes with a correction. My advice is to go and see a behaviourist who can see why your dog is acting the way it is and who can come up with a rehabilitation plan to fix it before it escalates. Aggression shouldn't be dealt with over the internet and a lot of aggression problems have nothing to do with dominance. I had a lot of people tell me my dog's aggression was a dominance thing - it wasn't, it was fear. Worked on the fear (and got him to look to me for cues) and the aggression went away. We went to see k9pro - he was amazing. In Victoria, maybe you could get in contact with Erny? I've met her and she's lovely :D If she can't help, she might know someone who can. Sorry I meant call it and if it doesnt respond give it a tug.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Oh and the dog isnt being protective, its being aggrssive.. the difference is the dog is protective when there is a threat... if your dog is the insitigator its aggression.... where if the other dog is showing aggression first and your dog responds to protect you then there is the diference.. Don't diagnose aggression over the internet please. meh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Up until recently, Jax loved other dog. He loved socialising and meeting new dogs. But now it seems its all changed. He growls at new dogs and just seems unhappy with.other dogs being around. But its only when im around! If OH.takes.him for.a walk or takes him to.a friends house, he is the way he used to be. I come into the equation and it all changes! Why is.he doing this? (hes been socialied and has been doing obediance classes since.he was 12 weeks). Its kinda upsetting as I do intend on adding.a second dog to the family in the next year or so, but im worried about how he would react to a puppy. You aren't pregnant are you? I have seen male dogs suddenly become very protective of pregnant owners before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Up until recently, Jax loved other dog. He loved socialising and meeting new dogs. But now it seems its all changed. He growls at new dogs and just seems unhappy with.other dogs being around. But its only when im around! If OH.takes.him for.a walk or takes him to.a friends house, he is the way he used to be. I come into the equation and it all changes! Why is.he doing this? (hes been socialied and has been doing obediance classes since.he was 12 weeks). Its kinda upsetting as I do intend on adding.a second dog to the family in the next year or so, but im worried about how he would react to a puppy. You aren't pregnant are you? I have seen male dogs suddenly become very protective of pregnant owners before. Wow serious! thats pretty amzaing.... Does the dog do it when both OH and you are walking the dog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~*Shell*~ Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Sorry I meant call it and if it doesnt respond give it a tug.... I would still not call it and then punish it for not responding - the dog probably has no idea what you're punishing it for. Are you punishing the aggression or the non-compliance? Or both? If it's over-aroused, it may not even be able to hear the handler. Best take the dog to see a professional Dee-al If Jane has helped you before, there's your first port of call! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 If it's over-aroused, it may not even be able to hear the handler. or you may get re-directed aggression ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Are you sure it's protective behaviour and not, say, possessive behaviour? There are lots of associations that might have occurred without you knowing that could explain why this happens with you and not the OH. It could be entirely haphazard, like a few times a dog was threatening towards him while you were there and so he's doubly on his guard around you. Has he been desexed recently? Dogs go through various stages in their social development that could see a change in behaviour as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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