Kaffy Magee Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) Ive just spoken to the vet, no change, she is trying to get hold of a specialist to see what the best course of action is because she thinks its getting pretty serious now ETA: Thanks Oakeydoak, I'll wait until the vet has spoken to the specialist and see what they think first. She is going to ring me back shortly. Edited July 28, 2011 by Kaffy Magee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaffy Magee Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 They rabg the specialists who were stumped aswell, great. They want him to see a reproductive specialist down in Brisbane. I asked if they were leaning away from the idea of him hurting his back and she said it could be but you would normally be able to tell and gave me examples of it happening with other animals, after suffering trauma. His prepuce is covering his penis which is good but she thinks the colour of it isnt very good, very red and mentioned that he might have a clot in the vein. Sighhhh... Good thing is he did a wee this afternoon. Im heading to pick him up, then I have a job interview at 5, like I feel like attending that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakeydoak1 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Oh dear Kaffy, keep us posted on how he goes. Oh and good luck with the interview, poor thing is probably the last thing you feel like doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaffy Magee Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 He's back home now, in good spirits, honestly you wouldnt think there was anything wrong the way he behaves is not like a dog who is "sick". Booked in for an appointment with specialist tomorrow at 12pm. Off to get ready for interview now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Good luck with the interview, you sure need some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumabaar Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Good luck with the specialist (and the job interview) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puglvr Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Let us know what they think. My husbands old working kelpie had this same problem but his was out and erect. The vets managed to get it back down and in and put a stitch in it to stop it coming back out and heal. He is already castrated so don't know if that is a contributing factor or not. Interesting about it could be due to back problems. My get the hubby to take him to our Accupuncturist if it reoccurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 have they done xrays or scans to see what's going on? I hope the specialist has some clues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Sending healing vibes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaffy Magee Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Thanks for the support and well wishes. Pers they haven't done any scans or xrays. I am still thinking it's his back. The fact that it all settles down when he is snoozing but flares up immediately when he moves but here's the next bit....... My friend had to go the vet today back in Vic and she mentioned it to her vet who immediately said back/ pinched nerve and to try massaging his back. So I was just massaging his back along the spine just then for a little while, quite a bit of pressure, he was enjoying it. Anyways when I stopped and went away he followed, no immediate erection. So I let him follow me around a bit then checked again. While it didnt feel perfectly normal it technically was still soft and no where near as bad as it had been. So I took hin outside to wee and he did instantly whilst he was still soft and no penis visible, which he hasn't done since it all started, he has always hardened up immediately and his penis has come out of the sheath whilst trying to pee. He then walked a bit more, it started to harden again, especially the glands but his actual penis really does not appear to be hardening as much as it was. I maybe just tired but my OH thinks it's not as bad either. I don't know, could that be possible? I wonder if I should be taking him to a repro vet first. I guess I'll take him but express my concerns and maybe see if I can get some one to Check his back whilst I'm there in Brisbane if repro vet can't help. I'll see what he is like in the morning if he appears improved, I'll ring my vet and tell her I want someone to check his back first. Anyway I'm off to bed, I'm so tired and I'm starting to ramble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Well you will all laugh at this....why not take the dog to a chiro and get him checked. I can find out the name of a good one for you that my friend swears by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stolzseinrotts Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Well it sure does sound like I had orginally thought, a pinched / restricted nerve and or muscle. I would be seeking out somebody who can help with that, as suggested. Even a good chiro could help you out as many do alternative treatments as well. As suggested ^^^^^ oakway could give you the name of one that you could see. I would be going down this path first before anything else, but that is me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Well it sure does sound like I had orginally thought, a pinched / restricted nerve and or muscle. I would be seeking out somebody who can help with that, as suggested. Even a good chiro could help you out as many do alternative treatments as well. As suggested ^^^^^ oakway could give you the name of one that you could see. I would be going down this path first before anything else, but that is me. I have the full details for this man he is at Morayfied on your way down to the specialist. Which I assume will be Phil Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I have pm'ed you all the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaffy Magee Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 (edited) Ok, Im back. Oakway, yes it is Phil Thomas, he was great My brain is fried and I cant remember everything that was said, I remeber "this is very bad, life or death bad", my heart sunk at those words. If we cant drain the blood from his penis thats extremely bad, we're talking he could have to have his penis removed, if he has no penis he cant wee and he has to be able to wee, if we can drain the blood he has to pee, if he cant pee after that, its not looking good. Thankfully with him squeezing his penis from tip to base the blood drained, I immediately took him out and he had a good easy pee. (Hadnt peed since the night before). By the time we got back in he was hard again. Specialist says, we have to stop him getting erections so unfortunately but neccesary he has been put on Suprelorin. Its better than the alternative, which by the sounds of, there isnt one. I asked if we could collect him first but he felt it was too risky to let him have a full blown erection at his stage, He said it may not but it could cost him his life, so I didnt. Its a freak thing, he says they write books about other medical issues but they dont write books about this because its so rare and hes sorry I got the weird one, lol. He has student form the US with him, so she saw/learnt something she has never seen and probably never will see again. So he has whats called Priapism and sometimes it can just happen, no known cause. He's not sure what will happen after the suprelorin wears off, he says its unchartered waters. He said he will write out and explain it for me on paper and send it to me and if I have any questions to contact him. Which, now, on the drive home I thought of some. Anyway until the drug kicks in , I have to drain his penis of blood everytime he needs to pee. The reason the blood needs to be drained is becasue it flows in to the penis, and usually it seeps back out and the erection goes down, but when its been in there for a while the blood turns to "sludge" and cant seep out. Im not sure why his doesnt seep out though, is it becasue his erections stay there too long, hence the turning to sludge, why is his erection different to any other dog, or the ones he has before, why all of a sudden cant it seep back out? Hmmm...I think its just one of those things but its doing my head in how something can work fine and then just stop working. I want to know how he knows its not caused by something else.Not because I doubt him, but just becasue Im curious. He was bloody brilliant,explained alot of how it all works, gave me confidence in what he was doing, I didnt once think this guy has no idea, he was straight on to it and I was in awe, he was awesome and would thoroughly recommend him. Chase was such a good little man. When the specialist was being quite invasive with his penis, to a point im not sure exactly what he was doing he said to me that he couldnt believe Chase was just lying there and letting him do it. He said no dog has ever let him do what he is doing, they have always had to be anaesthetised for them to perform it. He just could not get over how good my little man was, no squirming or sooking whatsoever (even though his penis is all bruised and sore). :D So thats basically it. He is alive and thats all that matters. "Priapism is a persistent penile erection lasting longer than 4 hours, without sexual stimulation. Priapism is categorized as either nonischemic (arterial, high flow) or ischemic (veno-occlusive, low flow). Ischemic priapism is considered an emergency in people. Reports of priapism in dogs are uncommon". Chase has ischemic priapism. Edited July 30, 2011 by Kaffy Magee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumabaar Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I hope that the superlorin works quickly!! I am glad your little boy is in good hands. Also- well done for noticing and following it up. Its so hard that dogs can't talk to us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I hope things start to improve ... and that you can keep the urine flowing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakeydoak1 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Well Kaffy I am just glad you got to him in time. Must have been so scary for you (and probably still is). Keep us posted on his progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I am so pleased that you posted I was starting to think dreadful things about his condition. I am so sorry this has happened to your boy but you have him and thats the best news any of us could hear. Yes, Phil Thomas is the best. Now for some light releif laughter.....if you ever need the Chiropractor you know where he is. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missymoo Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 wow for a problem that started as a bit of a giggle turned out to be so serious, poor Chase, hes such a tollerant boy for all this to happen, wishing you both the very best xo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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