fuzzy82 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Obi has the sloppiest puppy sit ever. When he was a little puppy, I didn't care, I figured he would grow out of it. But he didn't. He turned 1 yesterday, and it's worse than ever. His sit/stay is pretty solid, so it's not like it really matters, but it just looks horrible. Any suggestions for fixing it? I have tried luring him forward and rewarding when he sits properly, I have tried shaping him forward and I have physically positioned him and then rewarded, but it only lasts 1-2 seconds and then he rolls back. I have also tried python lifts to get him to shift more weight forward, but that doesn't seem to work. He does have really bad luxating patellas, could that have something to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Have u tried treating him higher up so he has to sit straight and tall to get the treat?? My dog has a shocking sit but he has no medical issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minxy Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Kyojin has just turned one as well and also still sits like a puppy - he also has really bad luxating patellas as well, so maybe that is what is causing both our dogs to still sit this way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dju Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I hope it's not luxating patellas, because Hugo sits like a puppy too!! I always thought it was because his legs are really short.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kallistar Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 How long can he maitain a straight sit for? Can you get him to do a straight sit along side you and a wall? This will help teach muscle memory.. and you could try and get him to do this for his dinner.. Just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy82 Posted July 24, 2011 Author Share Posted July 24, 2011 How long can he maitain a straight sit for? Can you get him to do a straight sit along side you and a wall? This will help teach muscle memory.. and you could try and get him to do this for his dinner.. Just a thought He does sit straight next to me, but he rolls back on his haunches while sitting. So the wall doesn't help unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy82 Posted July 24, 2011 Author Share Posted July 24, 2011 Have u tried treating him higher up so he has to sit straight and tall to get the treat?? My dog has a shocking sit but he has no medical issues I have gotten him to sit, then lured him forward a bit, and that works, but only while the treat is right in front of his nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 It might be that it's a lot more comfortable to sit with his knees relaxed if he has luxating patellas. Sitting properly would put more stress on the knees like for a human - squatting with your feet on the ground vs sitting with your bum on the ground with legs out in front. Squatting is more stressful on the knees. It might be possible to train up muscles to be stronger and compensate ie you start with lots of very short sits and build duration slowly as the muscles get stronger. I'd want to check with a vet or dog physio about that first though. It's also possible that asking for a squat-sit could make the knees worse - I don't know one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Maybe do some perch work to train better back end awareness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy82 Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) It might be that it's a lot more comfortable to sit with his knees relaxed if he has luxating patellas. Sitting properly would put more stress on the knees like for a human - squatting with your feet on the ground vs sitting with your bum on the ground with legs out in front. Squatting is more stressful on the knees. It might be possible to train up muscles to be stronger and compensate ie you start with lots of very short sits and build duration slowly as the muscles get stronger. I'd want to check with a vet or dog physio about that first though. It's also possible that asking for a squat-sit could make the knees worse - I don't know one way or the other. True, I will check with his vet, just to make sure. Maybe do some perch work to train better back end awareness? We have done a lot of perch work, and his rear end awareness is really good. Edited July 25, 2011 by fuzzy82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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