minxy Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I love big dogs, but when the time comes for me to have a small dog I will be getting a Papillon. I've met plenty of them, they are smart, fast/active and usually not yappy like many small breeds can be. As far as small dogs go, I think they rock! Lol I've met about 4 or 5 and each one of them has been incredibly yappy. Ok, ok, maybe the water around here is different. It sounds like the environments you are seeing the paps in are very stimulating which is why they are barking? Just a thought. I work in obedience and all of the ones I have seen have been quiet. I still think they are great. Maybe some pap breeders would be able to comment. By the way Minxy, I love Akita's they are my favourite all time breed of dog. Yours look magnificent! Thanks! I'm absolutely smitten with the breed now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumtoshelley Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 can anyone please tell me the difference in temperment/personality of toy poodle and the miniature poodle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Do it RS!! Just look at all the cute-ness in the sig! I have sigs turned off So no sucking me in with cuteness!! A Pap wouldn't count as a whole dog would it so I still have room for another Lab, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ons Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I was told a griffon has a similar personality to a golden retreiver I have owned my griffon pup for about 10 days now and so far he is an awesome dog! So fearless, very energetic - surprised how much - he plays non stop with my female coolie. Loves my other dogs as well and just goes up to my large golden retreiver to have a bit of a chat. SO far not much of a barker but time will tell, he is only 3 months old. And as for shedding, doubt I would even know with four other dogs in the household whose hair is whose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 The one toy poodle I spent a lot of time with liked wandering and he was a houdini escape artist too. Maybe desexing would have stopped that but I think he just liked exploring. Most of them are smarter than their owners. I like the papillion for boldness (without aggression) in a little dog. Most of the cavs I've met are shy of other dogs and sometimes people too. Mumtoshelly - does this mean you've found your own place or you're just dreaming of what you might have some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty Miss Emma Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I'd just move out of home so I could have whatever I wanted - oh I did!!! That's why I ended up with long haired dogs that shed and run lots and cats and rats and reptiles!!! No way known they were going to be allowed with mum and dad (well, that was before. Now they also have dogs!!!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I'd say not to a Toy or a Pap, if you have a GR. The disparity in size alone, is enough to be an accident waiting to happen. You need a more robust and heavier breed to go along with the GR, especially if you want them to be able to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlemum Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Poodles need regular clipping and grooming. Either it has to be done regularly by a professional or you need to spend a fair amount of money on gear and learn to do it yourself. You won't get change out of four figures for the amount of gear required to set up for home grooming a poodle properly. Personally I think the Toy and Miniature Poodles have quite notable differences in temperament to the Standards. ETA: I just did a rough estimate of what it would cost me to replace my grooming gear. About $2000 and that's a conservative estimate. so many people don't realise this - they think a toy Poodle is just a shrunken Standard A largish miniature poodle would probably fit the bill. With grooming it depends where you live. I am cheap and do a gorgeous job (with scissoring) for $40 and there is a certified master groomer (who would be one of the best poodle groomers in Australia) who lives in the next village, grooms from home and would do you poo for $50. Some of my clients lived in larger centres befor tree changing and used to pay ridiculous amounts for very ordinary groom. Pity you don't live around here Fru Fru Or in East Gippsland!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 My boyfriend on the other hand doesn't like them to him they look to girly. As my guess is that you'll own a dog far longer than you'll have most boyfriends, I'd not be taking much notice of that. ;) haha, always enjoy your contributions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Given how your mum stopped Aunty and her stinky dog - not, I imagine you'd get away with whatever dog you bring home too. But if it was me - I'd wait until I had my own place. What's going to happen when Aunty comes back bringing her badly behaved tribe with her and starts corrupting your dogs again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 A well bred Stafford might fit the bill - smallish dog with a happy and friendly temperament, doesn't shed lots, and would love a GR to play with... *grin* Do your research into good breeders - there are a few here on DOL - and you will find a great little dog to add to your family... T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perrin Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 We had Poodle down on our list for a potential dog then went Dalmatian. I would still love to get a Poodle one day but it will be a long way into the future as we are only a one dog household and i plan to have Georgia for a long time. Still they are on my one day list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumtoshelley Posted July 17, 2011 Author Share Posted July 17, 2011 Given how your mum stopped Aunty and her stinky dog - not, I imagine you'd get away with whatever dog you bring home too. But if it was me - I'd wait until I had my own place. What's going to happen when Aunty comes back bringing her badly behaved tribe with her and starts corrupting your dogs again? My auntie is back home. She left her dog with her ex boyfriend so it is no longer here. Shelley and Buddy can finally have there toys back which there happy about.I'm also happier too so is my dad and mum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toy dog Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 (edited) I'd say not to a Toy or a Pap, if you have a GR. The disparity in size alone, is enough to be an accident waiting to happen. You need a more robust and heavier breed to go along with the GR, especially if you want them to be able to play. not necessarily don't forget mumtoshelley already has a chihuahua. i have my show chihuahuas that hang out with my kelpie cross pointer rescue they are around each other all day. it depends on the nature of the dog. my big breed dog is very gentle with my little dogs especially the young pups. our chihuahuas are shared amongst the family so most of them aren't picking just one person in the family they each like the whole family although in the past some chis have bonded to one person and stick with that one person. i assume when you listed what you wanted mumstoshelley you don't want another dog like your rascal who is a one person dog as some chihuahuas can be and also timid. some are not it depends on the personality of your chihuahua. i once had a long coat chihuahua girl who looked like a miniature GR, she was fearless not at all timid and friendly towards everyone in the family didn't pick just one person and also got on with other dogs and people. damn good show dog (champion chihuahua). living in tassie now being spoilt. chihuahuas aren't yappy, compared to a pomeranian - now there's a yappy dog. often you'd see their owners yeling out "shutup" every 10 minutes or so at a dog show. i'd always laugh because if i couldn't find a person you would only have to listen out for the "shutup" to know that they were there at the show somewhere. and it was never quiet taking them to dog shows whereas the chihuahuas would sit in their showcage quietly. but.....in saying that........you can get great differences within breeds too, some might be yappy while some might not be so much. I've had incredibly yappy poms while others i've owned over the years have been incredibly quiet just the opposite. Edited July 17, 2011 by toy dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toy dog Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 (edited) Given how your mum stopped Aunty and her stinky dog - not, I imagine you'd get away with whatever dog you bring home too. But if it was me - I'd wait until I had my own place. What's going to happen when Aunty comes back bringing her badly behaved tribe with her and starts corrupting your dogs again? My auntie is back home. She left her dog with her ex boyfriend so it is no longer here. Shelley and Buddy can finally have there toys back which there happy about.I'm also happier too so is my dad and mum. are you still having problems with Rascal? perhaps it might be better to voice your concerns with the chi people in the chi thread maybe we can find some tips for you to try with him. i've attached a picture of the girl im talking about, my brother has golden retrievers has had them for a few years. they are a very happy go lucky dog generally. Edited July 17, 2011 by toy dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumtoshelley Posted July 17, 2011 Author Share Posted July 17, 2011 actually Rascal has become good, still likes to cuddle with my auntie but is willing to leave her to come to me. He actually now sleeps in my bedroom. In a way I'm not sure if it was the love of my auntie that made him go the way he did, I think it was Lady her dog Rascal loved the most. Couple of nights ago my auntie wanted to see if Rascal would follow her to her bedroom he didn't move at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 hi mumtoshelley That looks like an improvement but I still wouldn't want to bring another dog into that household. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murve Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 we have 3 Paps, 1 Whippet, 1 Rottie, 1 JRT & a Cavie X, they all get along great, 2 of our Paps are only 10 months, the rest range between the ages of 21/2 to 9 yrs, 2 are rescues The Paps we bred, we dont have a prob with yapping 24/7 in fact the only time they do is when someone turns up at the door, & it is normally the Rotie & Cavie that triggers the doorbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirst_goldens Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 i havent read all the way to the end... but i say toy poodle seems to be the way to go i like lagottos but they are far from small really... cavies are prone to ear issues which can be smelly at times and shed like crazy so they are out... poodles cost are a single coat so dont really get smelly and most dirt if u let it dry will brush out if ur happy to pay a groomer every 6 weeks then go a toy i love them! they are only too girly if u treat them like a hanbag otherwise they have alot of go in them and are real lovely doggies!! and as mentioned he may leave puppy will stay ;) and after all its ur freaking dog tell him to shove it hahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panzer Attack! Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Paps are more like a shrunk down Border Collie than a GR so I'd be wanting to meet some if I were you. They are stunning little dogs, but active and intelligent, and WILL find things to do if you don't provide entertainment. Mine is also definitely not what one would call a shy retiring wallflower! He barks, says hello or go away to things, is incredibly bold but having said that I did a lot of research before getting one and would not change him for the world (but do need to figure out how to make him stop barking). Oh, and RubyStar? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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