fuzzy82 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 The trainer at my class just told me that cccq only allows you to trial one unpapered (ie associate registered) dog in your lifetime. Just wondering if this is true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAX Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Thought it was at one time, not your life time. Sure a QLD'er will let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 The trainer at my class just told me that cccq only allows you to trial one unpapered (ie associate registered) dog in your lifetime. Just wondering if this is true? I'd heard it was two. You need to leave Qld - no limit on Associates in any other state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I heard you can register 2 at one time when you first register, but once you have registered an associate then future registrations need to be limit or main. Is the info on the CCCQ site? Hopefully someone actually in QLD will reply and tell you how it really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inevitablue Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 How behind the times is that! Yay for the people who give rescues etc a 2nd chance and have fun with agility etc. Not. How do they handle Sporting Register dogs? The sport of herding must be very small....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobieMum Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 How behind the times is that! Yay for the people who give rescues etc a 2nd chance and have fun with agility etc. Not. How do they handle Sporting Register dogs? The sport of herding must be very small....... I Lure Course my dogs and Any Lure Coursing Title is not recognised, because the CCCq rule is your only allowed to own and compete in any recognised dog sport, one Associate Registered dog at a time. Of Course a lot of greys aren't registered (no offence meant to anyone who rescues greys, I think you do a wonderful job!!). When I was finding out about Lure Coursing before I started, I rang the CCCq to find out about it and the girl in the office told me the CCCq think it's a fantastic sport for dogs and very worthwhile, but they don't recognise their titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) How behind the times is that! Yay for the people who give rescues etc a 2nd chance and have fun with agility etc. Not. How do they handle Sporting Register dogs? The sport of herding must be very small....... I Lure Course my dogs and Any Lure Coursing Title is not recognised, because the CCCq rule is your only allowed to own and compete in any recognised dog sport, one Associate Registered dog at a time. Of Course a lot of greys aren't registered (no offence meant to anyone who rescues greys, I think you do a wonderful job!!). When I was finding out about Lure Coursing before I started, I rang the CCCq to find out about it and the girl in the office told me the CCCq think it's a fantastic sport for dogs and very worthwhile, but they don't recognise their titles. The Greys are easy to get around, providing they have been named by the previous owner. All you need is the GRA papers and that's easy to get as they have ear tats. You can actually re-register any named racing Grey onto the main register with any of the state controlling bodies. Do that and you can have your titles. ( excluding those that are not recognised sports ) Edited July 5, 2011 by ReadySetGo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 How behind the times is that! Yay for the people who give rescues etc a 2nd chance and have fun with agility etc. Not. How do they handle Sporting Register dogs? The sport of herding must be very small....... Ah Qld.. what can you say. As I said, this is not the case in other states. No wonder non ANKC agility flourishes in Qld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracdog Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 How behind the times is that! Yay for the people who give rescues etc a 2nd chance and have fun with agility etc. Not. How do they handle Sporting Register dogs? The sport of herding must be very small....... Ah Qld.. what can you say. As I said, this is not the case in other states. No wonder non ANKC agility flourishes in Qld. Don't forget though that the Controling bodies are primeraly Peddigree Dog organizations. Their main function is to promote Pedigree Dogs so if you wanted to get tecnical it is a privilage for these nonpedigrees to be allowed to compete at all. The Sporting Registed is differant because the dogs are registered with a kindred working body, They don't need to be desexed and you can put more than one or two on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 How behind the times is that! Yay for the people who give rescues etc a 2nd chance and have fun with agility etc. Not. How do they handle Sporting Register dogs? The sport of herding must be very small....... Ah Qld.. what can you say. As I said, this is not the case in other states. No wonder non ANKC agility flourishes in Qld. Don't forget though that the Controling bodies are primeraly Peddigree Dog organizations. Their main function is to promote Pedigree Dogs so if you wanted to get tecnical it is a privilage for these nonpedigrees to be allowed to compete at all. The Sporting Registed is differant because the dogs are registered with a kindred working body, They don't need to be desexed and you can put more than one or two on it. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Don't forget though that the Controling bodies are primeraly Peddigree Dog organizations. Their main function is to promote Pedigree Dogs so if you wanted to get tecnical it is a privilage for these nonpedigrees to be allowed to compete at all. The Sporting Registed is differant because the dogs are registered with a kindred working body, They don't need to be desexed and you can put more than one or two on it. The overwhelming majority of crossbred dogs are not eligible for the Sporting Register. I don't think the ANKC needs to hide its head in shame about its primary function of purebred dog promotion. I have never heard it expressed that Associates are "privileged" to be allowed to compete in ANKC dog sports. That may be the attitude in Qld, but it sure ain't here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huga Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I heard you can register 2 at one time when you first register, but once you have registered an associate then future registrations need to be limit or main. Is the info on the CCCQ site? Hopefully someone actually in QLD will reply and tell you how it really is. This is correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracdog Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 The overwhelming majority of crossbred dogs are not eligible for the Sporting Register. I don't think the ANKC needs to hide its head in shame about its primary function of purebred dog promotion. I have never heard it expressed that Associates are "privileged" to be allowed to compete in ANKC dog sports. That may be the attitude in Qld, but it sure ain't here. The way I read the Rules the reason for Crosses not being eligable for the Sporting Register is thay cannot be registered with one of the Kindred associations Eg Working Kelpie Association. If an Associate registered dog wants to do Herding then they do the test and go onto the Associate Register Herding. If you are allowed to participate in something that you perviously weren't and realy don't have to be, it is a Privilege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 If you are allowed to participate in something that you perviously weren't and realy don't have to be, it is a Privilege. Any ANKC associate can compete in obedience and agility. Outside of Qld, that's been the case ever since I became involved. How is that ia "privilege"? You pay your money, you register your dog and you are entitled to enter alongside any other ANKC registered dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raineth Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 The way I read the Rules the reason for Crosses not being eligable for the Sporting Register is thay cannot be registered with one of the Kindred associations Eg Working Kelpie Association. If an Associate registered dog wants to do Herding then they do the test and go onto the Associate Register Herding. How could I register my rescue dog Digby, who is 60 kg of mastiff muscle with the working Kelpie association My other rescue dog is a non-pedigree Great Dane so I would imagine having trouble registering her with a working dog association. I love my rescue dogs and will be having more in the future. Lucky I'm not in QLD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huga Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 It's simply to encourage the ownership of pedigree dogs. Maybe if enough people voice their thoughts on the issue to Dogs QLD, the rule may be reviewed by council ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Sucks a bit for people that rescue. Maybe they need a proof of rescue before registering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracdog Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 The way I read the Rules the reason for Crosses not being eligable for the Sporting Register is thay cannot be registered with one of the Kindred associations Eg Working Kelpie Association. If an Associate registered dog wants to do Herding then they do the test and go onto the Associate Register Herding. How could I register my rescue dog Digby, who is 60 kg of mastiff muscle with the working Kelpie association My other rescue dog is a non-pedigree Great Dane so I would imagine having trouble registering her with a working dog association. I love my rescue dogs and will be having more in the future. Lucky I'm not in QLD! Quite simply you cannot because they are not working Kelpies or a working breed, The same as if you had a Peddigree Great Dane you couldn't enter a Chihuahua club show it's not the right breed. The Working dog associations produce Pedigrees for their members who breed Kelpies for example, from Working Lines. An Associate registered dog can compete in everything a Sporting Registered dog can except for Herding unless they go the step further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracdog Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 If you are allowed to participate in something that you perviously weren't and realy don't have to be, it is a Privilege. Any ANKC associate can compete in obedience and agility. Outside of Qld, that's been the case ever since I became involved. How is that ia "privilege"? You pay your money, you register your dog and you are entitled to enter alongside any other ANKC registered dog. But that has not always been the case. As in Qld the powers that be made the decission to allow them in. They could have easiely gone the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 If you are allowed to participate in something that you perviously weren't and realy don't have to be, it is a Privilege. Any ANKC associate can compete in obedience and agility. Outside of Qld, that's been the case ever since I became involved. How is that ia "privilege"? You pay your money, you register your dog and you are entitled to enter alongside any other ANKC registered dog. But that has not always been the case. As in Qld the powers that be made the decission to allow them in. They could have easiely gone the other way. Qld is not the rest of Australia. Hell, they still think daylight saving will fade the curtains up there. If they've chosen to drag the chain for whatever reason, don't write the rest of the ANKC off as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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