Aussie Made Dogs

[Rantino]

I spoke to someone who has a Shih Tzu Maltese cross and she is waiting for the pedigree papers to arrive. Is that an Aussie breed?

No. They'll be waiting a very long time.

I don't know about that...they are already a recognised breed in America in the miscallenes(spelling) class.

Its called a Mi Ki

Mi-Ki

A toy sized companion dog the Mi-Ki is a loving and friendly pet. There are several theories as to how exactly the breed developed. One of the theories or origins is that it was developed in the 1980 in Wisconsin by one breeder named Micki Macklin. In this origin several toy breeds were crossed in the lines including stock from the Yorkshire Terrier, Papillon, Shih Tzu, Japanese Chin and Maltese lines. Other theories of origin from different clubs include the same general foundation breeds, however not all include the Shih Tzu lines and some have almost no records of the exact toy breeds used to develop the Mi-Ki. Regardless of the foundation lineage the Mi-Ki does have breed standards and is recognized by many of the individual registries although not currently with the major Kennel Clubs.

The Mi-Ki is a toy size companion pet, not typically weighing more than 10 pounds at maturity. It can be long or short coated, either variety is acceptable, but on both coat types the ears have to feathered and highly mobile. The tail is carried high over the hips and is fringed, giving a balanced appearance to the dog. They can come in a variety of colors from fawns to browns and even blue colored coats. Eye colors vary from dark brown to blue and should correspond with the coat color.

As with any toy breed dental problems can occur in the Mi-Ki so regular dental hygiene is essential. The shorter muzzled dogs are prone to the same respiratory problems as Pugs and should be carefully monitored when exercising.

[Daisy]

And the vet put on my card 'Kelpie x'!

why? they are a recognised breed unless your dog is a kelpie x?

The vet automatically puts coolie x on vet cards

the Vet may be used to seeing a different type of Kelpie, not the beautiful pedigree ones!

I had a bit of a chuckle at this Not to offend anyone, but I grew up with registered working kelpies and they were the only type I had ever seen until a few years ago. When I see pedigree show kelpies, I always think they look rather odd I guess it is what you are used to, I think the working line kelpies are stunning-looking dogs!

[Crisovar]

I spoke to someone who has a Shih Tzu Maltese cross and she is waiting for the pedigree papers to arrive. Is that an Aussie breed?

No. They'll be waiting a very long time.

I don't know about that...they are already a recognised breed in America in the miscallenes(spelling) class.

Its called a Mi Ki

Mi-Ki

A toy sized companion dog the Mi-Ki is a loving and friendly pet. There are several theories as to how exactly the breed developed. One of the theories or origins is that it was developed in the 1980 in Wisconsin by one breeder named Micki Macklin. In this origin several toy breeds were crossed in the lines including stock from the Yorkshire Terrier, Papillon, Shih Tzu, Japanese Chin and Maltese lines. Other theories of origin from different clubs include the same general foundation breeds, however not all include the Shih Tzu lines and some have almost no records of the exact toy breeds used to develop the Mi-Ki. Regardless of the foundation lineage the Mi-Ki does have breed standards and is recognized by many of the individual registries although not currently with the major Kennel Clubs.

The Mi-Ki is a toy size companion pet, not typically weighing more than 10 pounds at maturity. It can be long or short coated, either variety is acceptable, but on both coat types the ears have to feathered and highly mobile. The tail is carried high over the hips and is fringed, giving a balanced appearance to the dog. They can come in a variety of colors from fawns to browns and even blue colored coats. Eye colors vary from dark brown to blue and should correspond with the coat color.

As with any toy breed dental problems can occur in the Mi-Ki so regular dental hygiene is essential. The shorter muzzled dogs are prone to the same respiratory problems as Pugs and should be carefully monitored when exercising.

Anything goes and give it a name.................right.

[espinay2]

A Murray River Retriever is similar to a Curly Coated Retriever....but different ;) : http://www.mrccr.org/

[Jumabaar]

I spoke to someone who has a Shih Tzu Maltese cross and she is waiting for the pedigree papers to arrive. Is that an Aussie breed?

No. They'll be waiting a very long time.

I don't know about that...they are already a recognised breed in America in the miscallenes(spelling) class.

Its called a Mi Ki

Mi-Ki

A toy sized companion dog the Mi-Ki is a loving and friendly pet. There are several theories as to how exactly the breed developed. One of the theories or origins is that it was developed in the 1980 in Wisconsin by one breeder named Micki Macklin. In this origin several toy breeds were crossed in the lines including stock from the Yorkshire Terrier, Papillon, Shih Tzu, Japanese Chin and Maltese lines. Other theories of origin from different clubs include the same general foundation breeds, however not all include the Shih Tzu lines and some have almost no records of the exact toy breeds used to develop the Mi-Ki. Regardless of the foundation lineage the Mi-Ki does have breed standards and is recognized by many of the individual registries although not currently with the major Kennel Clubs.

The Mi-Ki is a toy size companion pet, not typically weighing more than 10 pounds at maturity. It can be long or short coated, either variety is acceptable, but on both coat types the ears have to feathered and highly mobile. The tail is carried high over the hips and is fringed, giving a balanced appearance to the dog. They can come in a variety of colors from fawns to browns and even blue colored coats. Eye colors vary from dark brown to blue and should correspond with the coat color.

As with any toy breed dental problems can occur in the Mi-Ki so regular dental hygiene is essential. The shorter muzzled dogs are prone to the same respiratory problems as Pugs and should be carefully monitored when exercising.

That sounds a little different to a pup that was bred by someone who happens to own a Shih Tzu and a Maltese and decided to have a litter..... From my research no Australian Bred examples would be accepted into the ANKC, the Mi-Ki would have to be imported from America once it has full recognition.

[toy dog]

what breeds of dogs have been made and developed in Australia. I can think of a few but I'm sure that I'm missing lots.

coolie - my heart dog

australian terrier

australian silky terrier

kelpie

australian cattle dog

tenterfield terriers

I'm not sure about the Australian Shepherd, was the breed recognised in Australia and then developed in America?

can anyone add any more to this list

a dog that is in development is the aussie bulldog, australia's answer to the british bulldog. i think they are 10 years into getting them recognised by the ANKC. they are completely opposite to the BB, one of my friends has 2 and they are beautiful dogs. i am hoping they get recognised as a breed as there is 2 clubs working towards this now.

I suppose you believe in Father Xmas as well. I have no respect for anyone that lies to registed breeders in order to obtain a pup purely for the purpose of crossing it to another breed and "supposedly" creating something better. Put the shoe on the other foot - how would you feel if someone took a breed that you bred and used it to produce crosses and yes the aussie people are still using pure British to cross with.

They are not Australia's answer to the British Bulldog and they are not healthy or better suited to our climate than a well bred British,do your homework before making such outlandish statements.

I am unaware of the politics involved and i am not siding with anyone. I make my comments based on reading up and also knowing people with both sorts of dogs. i know a few that have had BB's and i have seen statements to say that 90% of BB's have C-S and have breathing problems. Aussie bulldogs have in their standard of development, that they should free whelp. and i know some people who have had these dogs that do just that making it easy for farmers to take hold. It also says that they have been crossed with bull mastiffs as well as BB's. And i also read somewhere bull terriers were thrown in the mix as well. and pig dogs.

So the clubs have said to address health issues with BB's they have tried to produce a dog that doesn't require human intervention to whelp. a longer snout so the avoid breathing problems yadda yadda yadda.

and yes, my breed has been crossed to produce the long coat in the breed with breeds like pomeranian, papillon, mini pins, time frame unknown - maybe more than a hundred years ago no one is sure, its just well known and often you see a double coat like a poms (bred and exhibited these 20 years ago) and you also sometimes see a chi looking like a pap with pap markings. so they have "taken" my breed of dog to get the long coat with other breeds.

ofcourse all dogs with people breeding them are going to be subject to some not concerned with the health, (as my work friends are not!!! they are puppy farmers only concerned with getting money for their pups which makes me angry - i still have to work with them so have said my piece of what i think) that happens in all dogs whether they are crossed or pedigree.

i see that to be accepted into the ANKC 500 dogs need to be registered and health checked but if most of the members are doing what my work friends are doing just breeding any dog to any dog and producing eye problems then turning around and saying they want those dogs to be used in the gene pool then its going to take a long long time to get recognised.

Edited June 25, 2011 by toy dog

[Kajtek]

The "Aussie Bulldog " isn't something we should be proud of, it's an Australian made abomination. The new " healthy" and mobile alternative to the BB , is anything but.

Woha.... a politer statement would go down a treat.

I own 3 ABS "abominations" and could not ask for better dogs. (BTW I spent a long time searching for the type of dog I wanted)

One of these "abominations" is in my avatar (she is 7yo and going great).

[Staranais]

Aussie bulldogs have in their standard of development, that they should free whelp.

If that's true, it's a very good idea, and I wish other breeds would follow suit. Although I don't know how they could enforce it.

Noone has mentioned the dingo yet! That's technically a dog, right?

[toy dog]

The "Aussie Bulldog " isn't something we should be proud of, it's an Australian made abomination. The new " healthy" and mobile alternative to the BB , is anything but.

Woha.... a politer statement would go down a treat.

I own 3 ABS "abominations" and could not ask for better dogs. (BTW I spent a long time searching for the type of dog I wanted)

One of these "abominations" is in my avatar (she is 7yo and going great).

my work friends dogs (she has 2) are so docile, she often walks them down the street and has little dogs yapping at them, and they don't react at all just ignore them. lol

she said that one lady went passed her and her hubby they were walking the 2 AB's this lady couldn't control her little dog, there was alot of snarling and barking and screaming going on this lady trying to control her little dog, and the lady had the gall to say, shouldnt have big dogs in society they are all vicious, when the AB's weren't doing anything just standing there unimpressed. the lady said all this from across the road.

thats a big sweeping statement to make

[Baileys mum]

Aussie bulldogs have in their standard of development, that they should free whelp.

If that's true, it's a very good idea, and I wish other breeds would follow suit. Although I don't know how they could enforce it.

Noone has mentioned the dingo yet! That's technically a dog, right?

Yep I mentioned the Dingo in page 1...& yes I agree it is technically a dog, & a Native to Australia,rather than a developed by man breed.

[rocco]

I am unaware of the politics involved and i am not siding with anyone. I make my comments based on reading up and also knowing people with both sorts of dogs. i know a few that have had BB's and i have seen statements to say that 90% of BB's have C-S and have breathing problems. Aussie bulldogs have in their standard of development, that they should free whelp. and i know some people who have had these dogs that do just that making it easy for farmers to take hold. It also says that they have been crossed with bull mastiffs as well as BB's. And i also read somewhere bull terriers were thrown in the mix as well. and pig dogs

The "Aussie Bulldog " isn't something we should be proud of, it's an Australian made abomination. The new " healthy" and mobile alternative to the BB , is anything but.

I have to agree. Every one I have seen is strange looking and with no consistent type.

The BBs does not need saving and what a shame people thinking the AB is the answer. British Bulldogs are unique, they are wonderful and don't need people messing with them.

Edited June 25, 2011 by rocco

[Staranais]

Aussie bulldogs have in their standard of development, that they should free whelp.

If that's true, it's a very good idea, and I wish other breeds would follow suit. Although I don't know how they could enforce it.

Noone has mentioned the dingo yet! That's technically a dog, right?

Yep I mentioned the Dingo in page 1...& yes I agree it is technically a dog, & a Native to Australia,rather than a developed by man breed.

Aw, I missed it! Sorry!

[sas]

I spoke to someone who has a Shih Tzu Maltese cross and she is waiting for the pedigree papers to arrive. Is that an Aussie breed?

I think those papers only come in Wheetbix boxes.

[sas]

The BBs does not need saving and what a shame people thinking the AB is the answer. British Bulldogs are unique, they are wonderful and don't need people messing with them.

Oh I don't know, perhaps a dog that can breath easier and free whelp might be a good idea yeah?

[WreckitWhippet]

The BBs does not need saving and what a shame people thinking the AB is the answer. British Bulldogs are unique, they are wonderful and don't need people messing with them.

Oh I don't know, perhaps a dog that can breath easier and free whelp might be a good idea yeah?

Lovely in theory but it's not the case. The number I have seen ( with papers ) that have heart conditions, breathing difficulties, allergies and assorted skin conditions, spinal deformities ( missing tails and vertebrea ) is astonishing.

[koalathebear]

Its an Australian Kelpie ;)

lol - i actually wondered if I should have typed "Australian" in front of them or if they are known just as kelpies. Now I know another awesome dog - hey they were developed from coolie stock so of course they are

What you typed is fine. My WKC Kelpie is a purebred Kelpie so he's a Kelpie or a Working Kelpie, he is not an Australian Kelpie. As far as I know, although not a strict rule, these days, "Australian Kelpie" refers to the show/bench Kelpie - the ANKC standard refers to the 'Australian Kelpie'. "Kelpie" on its own or "Working Kelpie" is frequently used for the working line dogs. The Working Kelpie Council of Australia refers to the breed as the Kelpie or the Australian Working Kelpie. I don't think any of the working line breeders would ever refer to their dogs as Australian Kelpies - Tony Parsons in his book was certainly very definite about not referring to a working line Kelpie as an "Australian Kelpie".

"The name Australian Kelpie' suggests that there is a breed of Kelpies other than those we know in Australia and 'Australian' is used to distinguish the home-grown variety; or the 'Australian' is used (as for the Australian Cattle Dog) to emphasise or add greater character to the breed as developed in Australia....There is no reason why we should describe the Kelpie as anything but simply that; I believe that the use of 'Australian' reflects more the pride we have in being responsible for its origin and development (as with the Australian Cattle Dog).... The use of the word 'Australian' does not suggest that there is another Kelpie somewhere else; however, the greatest difference is within the breed: the Working Kelpie is being used to categorise genuine working-strain Kelpies and Australian Kelpie is used for the 'bench' or 'show' Kelpie. Yet the working-strain and show Kelpie have a common origin." (From: Tony Parsons, "The Kelpie - The definitive guide to the Australian working dog", page 242).

Edited June 25, 2011 by koalathebear

[Ons]

thanks K-B that's very itneresting!

At the Gunnedah Show there was a kelpie in the best of show line up. Now to me he was far too stocky but obviously wasn't to get in the best of show line up. i met him the next day and he really was a lovely friendly fellow. Just probably a difference in the show and farm kelpies.

[koalathebear]

thanks K-B that's very itneresting!

At the Gunnedah Show there was a kelpie in the best of show line up. Now to me he was far too stocky but obviously wasn't to get in the best of show line up. i met him the next day and he really was a lovely friendly fellow. Just probably a difference in the show and farm kelpies.

Most people would not be able to tell the difference between a solid-coloured Working Kelpie and a lean show Kelpie, or a chunky Working Kelpie from a show Kelpie.

There are still a few two tone show Kelpies out there but very few, generally the breeders seem to prefer the solid colours - which I found out for myself from Australian Kelpie breeders when I went looking for a two tone show Kelpie Working line breeders don't seem to care about colours or even if ears are up or down, just the working ability. Some people I know prefer the look of the show Kelpies, others prefer working lines - it's nice to have the choice.

Edited June 25, 2011 by koalathebear

[Gayle.]

I spoke to someone who has a Shih Tzu Maltese cross and she is waiting for the pedigree papers to arrive. Is that an Aussie breed?

No. They'll be waiting a very long time.

I don't know about that...they are already a recognised breed in America in the miscallenes(spelling) class.

Its called a Mi Ki

Mi-Ki

A toy sized companion dog the Mi-Ki is a loving and friendly pet. There are several theories as to how exactly the breed developed. One of the theories or origins is that it was developed in the 1980 in Wisconsin by one breeder named Micki Macklin. In this origin several toy breeds were crossed in the lines including stock from the Yorkshire Terrier, Papillon, Shih Tzu, Japanese Chin and Maltese lines. Other theories of origin from different clubs include the same general foundation breeds, however not all include the Shih Tzu lines and some have almost no records of the exact toy breeds used to develop the Mi-Ki. Regardless of the foundation lineage the Mi-Ki does have breed standards and is recognized by many of the individual registries although not currently with the major Kennel Clubs.

The Mi-Ki is a toy size companion pet, not typically weighing more than 10 pounds at maturity. It can be long or short coated, either variety is acceptable, but on both coat types the ears have to feathered and highly mobile. The tail is carried high over the hips and is fringed, giving a balanced appearance to the dog. They can come in a variety of colors from fawns to browns and even blue colored coats. Eye colors vary from dark brown to blue and should correspond with the coat color.

As with any toy breed dental problems can occur in the Mi-Ki so regular dental hygiene is essential. The shorter muzzled dogs are prone to the same respiratory problems as Pugs and should be carefully monitored when exercising.

They aren't on the AKC list, nor are they in the miscellaneous class of dogs waiting to be recognised by the AKC, so I'd say they'll be waiting a very long time for them to be a registered breed here.

http://www.akc.org/breeds/complete_breed_list.cfm

[juice]

I have a friend who has a BB, and i was surprised, the dog is taller ,fitter, and although i can hear him snorting from up the street, is very healthy.

However there is a guy round the corner from me, who breeds AB's, and his are much shorter and broader and don't breathe well, and one tried to bloody well bite me! i just can't see the point in them .

Edited June 25, 2011 by juice