thunderstorm1 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 Chevorne - Thats sad that it didnt fix the problem i hope that doesnt happen to my puppy.. At this stage the hip dysplasia isnt severe the vet said it is mild as only just there he said that wont become a large problem until he is older, last week we would be outside running around chasing him doing everything u do with dogs we are now freaking about this problem so we are now more careful and gentle with him as we dont want it to keep happening.. it seems to be happening once a day in the right knee The nero problem isnt certain as the vet was only guessing but this was just after he came out of sedation.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevorne Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Chevorne - Thats sad that it didnt fix the problem i hope that doesnt happen to my puppy.. At this stage the hip dysplasia isnt severe the vet said it is mild as only just there he said that wont become a large problem until he is older, last week we would be outside running around chasing him doing everything u do with dogs we are now freaking about this problem so we are now more careful and gentle with him as we dont want it to keep happening.. it seems to be happening once a day in the right knee The nero problem isnt certain as the vet was only guessing but this was just after he came out of sedation.. I work in health, and can advise that with people almost the single most important factor is keeping the weight down. Animals are the same, so you can fix that one easily. Feed them separate or stand with them while they eat. Cut his in 1/2 also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderstorm1 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 the vet has told me to cut out all meats, so now he only get kibble and less than what is acutally required for his weight if that makes sense.. The vet said we have to get some weight off him and because we cant exercise him much due to pain it cutting back on food drastically.. the vet said to give him vegetables as treats if he cries too much due to being hungry My vet is really good i havent had a problem with him at all its just him going away on holidays makes it hard but i know if i wait for surgery and he loses weight it will make it alot easier on him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderstorm1 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 Also if i walk thunder on a daily basis again is this going to cause more damage or will this cause him to much pain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 For what its worth I had a rotti with lp in both back legs. We did the op, one leg at a time with time off in between. The op worked really well for our dog, his knees were great after that! (though the rest of him was another story entirely :rolleyes: ). And I'd also recommend getting the weight off and keeping it that way, its much better for their joints that way. Good luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderstorm1 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 Im glad to hear ur boy recovered well from the operations cougar, how long did it take in total for him to end up himself again? yeah im focusing on getting this weight off him atm to help ease him joints and legs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenGirl85 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Thunderstorm can you take him swimming? that will give him exercise without stress on his joints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderstorm1 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 isnt it a bit too cold to take him swimming though, i dont want him getting sick as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 please don't do any exercise regime or anything until you get a specialist opinion ..THEN you will know how severe it is, what the surgery may involve, what recovery time, etc to expect - how much it will cost ,and his suitability for surgery . Rappie - (who is a vet ), has also recommended a specialist opinion ... and you have been given some names - honestly- they are the best ones to answer your questions comprehensively - cos they will have seen your dog ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderstorm1 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 Yes thats what im thinking is ensuring he is using his legs minimal until i can get specialist advice, i appreciate all the advice everyone has given me it has also helped ease my mind :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderstorm1 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 here thunder has me stressing out like crazy because of his "pain", i just take his dinner out to him he is that excited he runs over and jumps up using his hind legs.. i tell him to get down but he is that excited cause of his new diet he is "starving" he keeps jumping.. i guess he is quite sooky and likes to make me worry and stress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keira&Phoenix Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I am also going to recommend you seeing a specialist. If your vet is away and cannot do a referral for you then see another vet and get a referral. My now almost 4 yo dog had LP in both hinds legs also, her left was the worst and popped out one day and didn't go back on its own, I took her to my vet and he recommended surgery to fix the LP which he did 2 days later, I didn't see a specialist and I regret it now as she has very bad arthritis in her knee from the operation and Vet/Chiro's have told me it shouldn't have been done the way it was. She has also limped on occasion over the past few years since the operation. She was on rest for 4 - 6 weeks and apart from destroying my book collection and some of the carpet did ok. If you are going ahead with an op I highly recommend you start crate training your dog if he is not already as a crate is the best option for keeping him quiet in the immediate recovery period. Her right leg still has mild LP hasn't popped out in years but will if manipulated, it doesn't cause her any pain. It is quite possible if you see a Specialist that you won't have to go ahead with surgery at all and they might recommend an exercise regime to strengthen and tighten the muscles to stop it from happening and if they do go ahead with surgery at least your dog will have the best person operating on him. Getting your dogs weight down is absolutely essential especially if he also has HD. Best of luck. Please for your dogs sake see a Specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 i guess he is quite sooky and likes to make me worry and stress No, he'd have no idea what you're worried and stressed about. I would not stop exercising him. Muscles help hold the knees together. I have no idea how fat he is but a very strict diet and GENTLE exercise should continue IMO. But see a specialist ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newco Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Hi. I would like to offer some advice if I may. In December 2010 CoCo had TCT(tibial crest transpositioning) surgery for a grade 4 luxating patella on her left rear leg. Her patella had severely luxated medially and became lodged. She had bony and soft tissue alerations so the patella sits in a more correct anatomical position. Two pins were used to pin the tibial crest in a more appropriate position. The groove of her patella was deepened and the joint structures on the lateral side have been tightened. It was a fairly big operation, and quite $$$. CoCo was kept overnight. She had to be crated/playpen for 6 weeks and was only allowed to walk ON LEAD to the toilet - no running, jumping. stairs etc etc. As the structure on her knee has changed (her knee turns outwards slightly) it causes her to walk with an altered gait. As far as recovery goes - she was putting a little weight on it the day after and didnt really have a lot of trouble getting out to toilet. We did have to lift her down/up the back step though. Medication wise she was on cepalexin (anti-biotic) Metacam (pain relief) and also had a transdermal Fentanyl patch for 4 days. Hope it all goes well for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W Sibs Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 isnt it a bit too cold to take him swimming though, i dont want him getting sick as well? It's not too cold for them to swim. My girl swims whenever she gets the chance too, and also runs around in the rain too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toy dog Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 having written an article on this as our breed get PL quite alot it is very common, i'd have to say firstly that all vets have differing opinions on this. what did your vet grade his patellas as? even grading is quite different from vet to vet. as others have said it is better to go to a specialist as they have a bit more knowledge up their sleeve to tell you if it is severe enough to be operated on. a vet depending on their experience can vary in knowledge and opinions greatly. you did say in one post that one vet had to look up the info and then advise you? a lady vet this doesn't sound good. a specialists deals with these cases. some vets and im not saying all, but some see an opportunity to make a bit of $ on the side so will recommend surgery with even grade 1 when it is mild and the dog doesn't even appear to be showing any symptoms no limping no nothing, but the patella can be manipulated out of the joint. up to grade 3 generally PL doesn't require surgery. generally what happens is it will pop out for a few seconds then pop right back in up to grade 3. grade 3 and 4 it will stay out and take longer to pop back in or even stay out permanently. if your dog is overweight this wouldn't be helping his Patellas or his HD. it would be making it worse. so get his weight down first then perhaps try gentle exercise and i always recommend supplements like jointguard, or sasha blend or straight glucosomine and also calcium supplement. it does help to strengthen the leg musceles as well with walking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderstorm1 Posted August 12, 2011 Author Share Posted August 12, 2011 For what its worth I had a rotti with lp in both back legs. We did the op, one leg at a time with time off in between. The op worked really well for our dog, his knees were great after that! (though the rest of him was another story entirely :rolleyes: ). And I'd also recommend getting the weight off and keeping it that way, its much better for their joints that way. Good luck with it. Hey there, Thunder has now had his surgery it was done on Tuesday.. Im just wondering how long did it take for your rotti to recover from this operation and was the rotti really unsettled of a nyt time? its only been 3 days and it feels like forever the days are just dragging thunder is sooo hard to keep calm and content and confined im not sure what else to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halz2 Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 0ur Staffie x had both of his done last Friday - he is recovering quite well, but hates being in confinement. Our vet gave us some sedatives, which have been fantastic! I try not to give him them during the day, but more at night so we can put him in his cage. How is your dog going with his recovery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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