sibesrule Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Hi I just have a question.. what is the Protocol if you sell Frozen Semen to someone outright and there are no pups born...are they entitled to more semen for a return service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 depends what was agreed to when the semen was purchased. I have been trying to buy FS for around 6 months now, long story, but the deal was/is I will get enough to cover any misses. So at least 2 breeding units from each dog I am getting semen from. It hasn't been discussed yet what happens to the extra units if the bitch concieves 1st time around but I would expect to pay another stud fee in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stolzseinrotts Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) Typically using frozen is a risk, by using it you take that risk that pups may not result. I have a number of breeding units from different dogs by imported frozen semen, if any one of them fail to yield pups than that is it, no comeback no money back etc. The risk is on the one using the frozen semen. I would think the general rule is; Imported semen, owner risk and no return. Deceased local donor dog then owner risk and no return. Local donor dog that is still viable for collection than that is up to the owner of the stud what they choose to offer. Personally I wouldn't give a replacement breeding unit if it was one of my dogs who had been collected and the post thaw motilty numbers where good enough to yield a good size litter. There are so many reasons why a litter was not conceived, using it to early / to late etc. If it is a local dog that is still alive and able to still yield a quality collection than the outlines for using it should have been discussed prior to receiving payment for a breeding unit. It still costs money to collect and freeze semen and that needs to be taken into account. Edited June 20, 2011 by Stolzseinrotts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missymoe Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Typically using frozen is a risk, by using it you take that risk that pups may not result. I have a number of breeding units from different dogs by imported frozen semen, if any one of them fail to yield pups than that is it, no comeback no money back etc. The risk is on the one using the frozen semen. I would think the general rule is; Imported semen, owner risk and no return. Deceased local donor dog then owner risk and no return. Local donor dog that is still viable for collection than that is up to the owner of the stud what they choose to offer. Personally I wouldn't give a replacement breeding unit if it was one of my dogs who had been collected and the post thaw motilty numbers where good enough to yield a good size litter. There are so many reasons why a litter was not conceived, using it to early / to late etc. If it is a local dog that is still alive and able to still yield a quality collection than the outlines for using it should have been discussed prior to receiving payment for a breeding unit. It still costs money to collect and freeze semen and that needs to be taken into account. Totally agree with you. We have had 2 goes at using imported semen on one of our girls which amounted to zilcho. We agreed to pay up front for a certain amount of breeding units and that is basically it...our loss, but we were prepared to take that risk. We have one breeding unit left and just hope like crazy that it works on somebody one day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelsun Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Yes, it's a hard pill but there are no guarantees with it. It is not you or your stud dogs fault if the bitch is not impregnated at the correct time, or for whatever reason can't or doesn't concieve. If the semen is correct quality, motility etc, you have done your job (well, your dog has!) I agree that to cover all bases if possible, acquire two breedings worth. Some stud owners will insist on payment for both, or just for one and see how it goes. You would have to pay to have both shipped and stored and if used of course, compensate the stud owner. I have two dogs on ice, both single breeding units...it's nerve wracking to know I have one shot with either and can't get any more. This is when I appreciate the talents of my vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts