The Future For All Things Dog

[pawsaroundoz]

Ok, has anyone else been thinking, as I have, about how/when all the doom and gloom stuff will affect our lives with our dogs?

I have not seen any sort of discussion coming from the State Controlling bodies has anyone else?

Shouldn't these things be raised and discussed so if some of the dire warnings come thundering along we do all have some plans about how to keep our selves but most of all our wonderful dogs safe fed loved and all that?

Annie

[Isabel964]

Sorry, not quite sure what you are referring to that could have the government discuss out how we and our dogs would be ok.

[Maddy]

Sorry, not quite sure what you are referring to that could have the government discuss out how we and our dogs would be ok.

Stuff like.. maybe we need to breed our dogs smaller so that they'll fit on our rafts for when the whole world is a huge ocean. Or something

[Greytmate]

Red meat production is unsustainable. So we should only ever give pet-grade meat to dogs, not good human-grade meat.

That's my plan to save the planet anyway.

[Alkhe]

Hmm, I'm not sure what you're asking either.

Or what state controlling bodies should be doing with respect to our lives with dogs, that differs to .. mitigating the impact of climate change and reducing emissions etc, more broadly.

[indigirl]

Im thinking its going to take thousands if not milluons of years to get to that point. I dont plan to be around then. Also I live In Broken Hill so even if the sea enroaches a bit im wayyyy safe out here lol.

[shortstep]

The plan is that all animal use by humans will be banned, not just cows but dogs too.

But first they have to set up a tax on everything we need to live, than tax us to death so the worlds wealth can be redistributed, take away our private property rights and put us all in high density living units in cities and begin to enforce the 1/2 child per person reproduction law.

By then we will be so beaten down, opps I mean re-educated, that after we say the mandatory One World Order pledge each morning 'For the Greater Good' while bowing facing China, we would never think of saying anything about wanting a dog for fear of being called a climate change denier and being out casted from our living unit. And as we all know, those that loose access to their assigned living unit will be sent to work in the solar panel farms, from which no one ever returns or is ever seen again.

Is this what you are talking about, concerning wanting even MORE government intervention in our lives and all based on the coming end of the world? I am sure they said it was already too late to save the world, last week I think it was, we ticked right over into the abyss. So I'll keep my dogs thank you and the Government needs to stay right out of it.

Be Green

Go Veg

Ban animal ownership.

For the Greater Good

Support Worldwide Watermelons

Edited June 13, 2011 by shortstep

[KOE]

The plan is that all animal use by humans will be banned, not just cows but dogs too.

But first they have to set up a tax on everything we need to live, than tax us to death so the worlds wealth can be redistributed, take away our private property rights and put us all in high density living units in cities and begin to enforce the 1/2 child per person reproduction law.

By then we will be so beaten down, opps I mean re-educated, that after we say the mandatory One World Order pledge each morning 'For the Greater Good' while bowing facing China, we would never think of saying anything about wanting a dog for fear of being called a climate change denier and being out casted from our living unit. And as we all know, those that loose access to their assigned living unit will be sent to work in the solar panel farms, from which no one ever returns or is ever seen again.

Is this what you are talking about, concerning wanting even MORE government intervention in our lives and all based on the coming end of the world? I am sure they said it was already too late to save the world, last week I think it was, we ticked right over into the abyss. So I'll keep my dogs thank you and the Government needs to stay right out of it.

Be Green

Go Veg

Ban animal ownership.

For the Greater Good

Support Worldwide Watermelons

and I wholeheartly agree

[oakway]

The plan is that all animal use by humans will be banned, not just cows but dogs too.

But first they have to set up a tax on everything we need to live, than tax us to death so the worlds wealth can be redistributed, take away our private property rights and put us all in high density living units in cities and begin to enforce the 1/2 child per person reproduction law.

By then we will be so beaten down, opps I mean re-educated, that after we say the mandatory One World Order pledge each morning 'For the Greater Good' while bowing facing China, we would never think of saying anything about wanting a dog for fear of being called a climate change denier and being out casted from our living unit. And as we all know, those that loose access to their assigned living unit will be sent to work in the solar panel farms, from which no one ever returns or is ever seen again.

Is this what you are talking about, concerning wanting even MORE government intervention in our lives and all based on the coming end of the world? I am sure they said it was already too late to save the world, last week I think it was, we ticked right over into the abyss. So I'll keep my dogs thank you and the Government needs to stay right out of it.

Be Green

Go Veg

Ban animal ownership.

For the Greater Good

Support Worldwide Watermelons

to survive, breed more purebred registered dogs, beat the puppy farmers, beat the RSPCA and and libbers and bring the controlling bodies into the same same century we are. ;)

[Steve]

Good brreders need to breed more dogs which are predictible to ensure they select dogs which will be best suited to the family's lifestyle and the environment it will live in.- simple we need more registered breeders breeding more dogs.

[sandgrubber]

If dogs managed to be sustained as human companions through a few (or even several) glaciations, they'll be with us through a major warming event. Human's garbage is often food to a dog.

Urbanisation IS a big problem for dog ownership . . . but can be dealt with through change in the mix of dog sizes and a system that caters to and demands responsible dog ownership, especially for dogs living in high-density areas. Northern Europe handles it well. Dogs are more loved than children in many places, and dog owners take their responsibilities seriously.

[shortstep]

If dogs managed to be sustained as human companions through a few (or even several) glaciations, they'll be with us through a major warming event. Human's garbage is often food to a dog.

Urbanisation IS a big problem for dog ownership . . . but can be dealt with through change in the mix of dog sizes and a system that caters to and demands responsible dog ownership, especially for dogs living in high-density areas. Northern Europe handles it well. Dogs are more loved than children in many places, and dog owners take their responsibilities seriously.

Well soon, not only will we be following the Europeans on how to bankrupt our economy with carbon gaming, we can then follow them on how they love dogs more than children. I heard the Trade Kids for Pets scheme is very good. Then we can trade our right for a child for the right to keep a high density designed pet!

Be Green

Go Veg

For the Greater Good

Buy only Watermelon approved 'High Density Low Methane Designed Pets'

[GeckoTree]

Posted 13 June 2011 - 09:25 PM

Ok, has anyone else been thinking, as I have, about how/when all the doom and gloom stuff will affect our lives with our dogs?

I have not seen any sort of discussion coming from the State Controlling bodies has anyone else?

Shouldn't these things be raised and discussed so if some of the dire warnings come thundering along we do all have some plans about how to keep our selves but most of all our wonderful dogs safe fed loved and all that?

Annie

Probably 50% of Australians can't plan ahead for anything to do with their own lives at present, let alone the lives of another animal species in the future.

So yes I think it would help a lot of these people to follow an architects plan. That direction, by people who can think and plan for them. If that were not the case state controlling bodies would not exist at this moment. I think they should be showing an interest in it now,when the writing is on the wall, not waiting until it has landed on their doorstep like what happened with the BSL debacle.

Edited June 13, 2011 by -GT-

[raineth]

I would love to see a culture change in Australia in which dogs are valued more, and not seen as something every family needs.

From what I see alot of people/families have dogs and these dogs are not having their needs met, and the family actually holds a level of resentment toward the dog/s.

So I would like to see less dog ownership - but more quality dog ownership

This would mean less of an impact on the environment as well as happier dogs.

[shortstep]

I would love to see a culture change in Australia in which dogs are valued more, and not seen as something every family needs.

From what I see alot of people/families have dogs and these dogs are not having their needs met, and the family actually holds a level of resentment toward the dog/s.

So I would like to see less dog ownership - but more quality dog ownership

This would mean less of an impact on the environment as well as happier dogs.

Well not to worry as I hear soon, to own pet will require council approval.

To get approval you first have to take the Government mandated Pet Owners Class, Test and Investigation, which is 3 sessions a week for 12 weeks, conducted by the Greens party, the RSPCA and the Australian Association of Psychiatrist at a cost of $700.00. No refunds either.

I hear only 10% of the people will be deemed psychologically fit, financially capable, child free and carbon neutral enough to own a pet. I hope you make the cut.

[oakway]

I would love to see a culture change in Australia in which dogs are valued more, and not seen as something every family needs.

From what I see alot of people/families have dogs and these dogs are not having their needs met, and the family actually holds a level of resentment toward the dog/s.

So I would like to see less dog ownership - but more quality dog ownership

This would mean less of an impact on the environment as well as happier dogs.

Well not to worry as I hear soon, to own pet will require council approval.

To get approval you first have to take the Government mandated Pet Owners Class, Test and Investigation, which is 3 sessions a week for 12 weeks, conducted by the Greens party, the RSPCA and the Australian Association of Psychiatrist at a cost of $700.00. No refunds either.

I hear only 10% of the people will be deemed psychologically fit, financially capable, child free and carbon neutral enough to own a pet. I hope you make the cut.

Shortstep you hit the nail right on the head.

[Greytmate]

Good brreders need to breed more dogs which are predictible to ensure they select dogs which will be best suited to the family's lifestyle and the environment it will live in.- simple we need more registered breeders breeding more dogs.

If dogs managed to be sustained as human companions through a few (or even several) glaciations, they'll be with us through a major warming event. Human's garbage is often food to a dog.

Urbanisation IS a big problem for dog ownership . . . but can be dealt with through change in the mix of dog sizes and a system that caters to and demands responsible dog ownership, especially for dogs living in high-density areas. Northern Europe handles it well. Dogs are more loved than children in many places, and dog owners take their responsibilities seriously.

I agree with these posts. It's something that has to be planned for now, has to be proactive and not reactive. As population grows, dogs will create a bigger impact, and it is up to us to make that impact a positive one so that the worth of dogs is not diminished by the community, and is even enhanced. In the grand scheme of things dogs do have a high cultural value, and so we have to make dog ownership more sustainable.

As for the conspiracy theories. A topic like this is always going to bring out the good ideas as well as the ludicrous ones.

[raineth]

I would love to see a culture change in Australia in which dogs are valued more, and not seen as something every family needs.

From what I see alot of people/families have dogs and these dogs are not having their needs met, and the family actually holds a level of resentment toward the dog/s.

So I would like to see less dog ownership - but more quality dog ownership

This would mean less of an impact on the environment as well as happier dogs.

Well not to worry as I hear soon, to own pet will require council approval.

To get approval you first have to take the Government mandated Pet Owners Class, Test and Investigation, which is 3 sessions a week for 12 weeks, conducted by the Greens party, the RSPCA and the Australian Association of Psychiatrist at a cost of $700.00. No refunds either.

I hear only 10% of the people will be deemed psychologically fit, financially capable, child free and carbon neutral enough to own a pet. I hope you make the cut.

I wasn't talking about laws. I was talking about a shift from the idea that getting a dog is standard practice - as is getting bored with that dog, and leaving it alone, unexercised in the backyard for the rest of its life. From what I see, doing exactly that is entirely acceptable and very common in most parts of Australia.

In my subsurb, dogs who have their needs met (physical, mental emotional) are considered to be "spoiled".

Friends of ours who are childless told us that we are the only could they've ever known to have kids and still have dogs being part of the family! that's pretty sad. And to me it means that there are many people out there with dogs, who shouldn't have dogs.

[BJean]

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Edited June 14, 2011 by lilli

[Keira&Phoenix]

I would love to see a culture change in Australia in which dogs are valued more, and not seen as something every family needs.

From what I see alot of people/families have dogs and these dogs are not having their needs met, and the family actually holds a level of resentment toward the dog/s.

So I would like to see less dog ownership - but more quality dog ownership

This would mean less of an impact on the environment as well as happier dogs.

Well not to worry as I hear soon, to own pet will require council approval.

To get approval you first have to take the Government mandated Pet Owners Class, Test and Investigation, which is 3 sessions a week for 12 weeks, conducted by the Greens party, the RSPCA and the Australian Association of Psychiatrist at a cost of $700.00. No refunds either.

I hear only 10% of the people will be deemed psychologically fit, financially capable, child free and carbon neutral enough to own a pet. I hope you make the cut.

I wasn't talking about laws. I was talking about a shift from the idea that getting a dog is standard practice - as is getting bored with that dog, and leaving it alone, unexercised in the backyard for the rest of its life. From what I see, doing exactly that is entirely acceptable and very common in most parts of Australia.

In my subsurb, dogs who have their needs met (physical, mental emotional) are considered to be "spoiled".

Friends of ours who are childless told us that we are the only could they've ever known to have kids and still have dogs being part of the family! that's pretty sad. And to me it means that there are many people out there with dogs, who shouldn't have dogs.

It is very sad and it makes me mad when people buy dogs when they have no intention of ever treating it properly.

On Sunday I was catching up with a friend and she was telling me about how a friend of ours (I don't talk to much) lets call them Terry and Karen who have 2 children under the age of 3 has just purchased a Fila Brasileiro which is not only a very large breed of dog it is also a RB. Like Staffords etc that breed of dogs needs serious socialization and training and an experienced handler. All of these things they will not do. Not to mention they are always complaining about how they don't have any money etc. When my friend asked Terry what he would do if the dog needed expensive vet treatment, well you can guess the answer. Obviously this also means they can't afford decent food, who knows if the dog will be vaccinated, desexed, microchipped, flea treated, heart wormed treated etc but I doubt it and I know it won't get walked/exercised at all. That dog is now an accident waiting to happen sadly.

I am considering getting my friend to pass on a message to say if anything happens and they need help with the dog to contact me but doubt that they would anyways, can't hurt though.

Still makes me steam thinking about it.