persephone Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 What parasites do chickens have, do you think? Those chickens are ,I believe extremely well looked after, medicine wise .. and there are no parasites that I know of which live in the bones/meat of human consumption chickens . perhaps try her with lamb ribs , or rabbit pieces , or turkey wing/neck , if you think she is sensitive to chicken ;) Why does she eat rice? What other food does she eat and enjoy? Can she eat minced lamb/beef ? What about cooked/mashed sweet potato/pumpkin? If she is Ok with these things maybe you could use them.. that way she wouldn't need chicken stock, or rice . Note : ANY different foods need to be introduced a little at a time , to avoid upsets . That goes for treats too .... Mind you, packaged chicken stock often has some onion/herbs etc in it .. try making your own, using JUST chicken .. and se if she tolerates that better , perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayle. Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 The chicken I feed my dogs is for human consumption, it's not sold as pet food. They get the same chicken drumsticks you'd cook on the barbie. No parasites in them, I would hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warval dobe Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 If the chicken is fit for human consumption then it should be fine for your dog, bearing in mind that dogs stomachs are a lot less sensitive than ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akay Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 lamb necks ..NOT lamb neck chops!!! Lamb neck chops are ok for very tiny dogs or cats .... otherwise they pose a danger if gulped Yes, it's right to get that clear. I've also had trouble with a greedy dog and lamb flaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinon Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Sometimes we boil chicken for her and mixing it with the rice we usually eat, since we usually eat rice. She eats that fine, but sometimes her elimination looks loose, and sometimes it's plain watery. So I'm worried... We're not using any added salt or anything. Mum is paranoid and insists that chickens have parasites. Maybe because she grew up in China and, well, in China you pretty much disinfect everything you eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinon Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Sometimes we boil chicken for her and mixing it with the rice we usually eat, since we usually eat rice. She eats that fine, but sometimes her elimination looks loose, and sometimes it's plain watery. So I'm worried... We're not using any added salt or anything. Mum is paranoid and insists that chickens have parasites. Maybe because she grew up in China and, well, in China you pretty much disinfect everything you eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinon Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Grr, double post,sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 aahhh Ok. Makes sense Mums try & do their best. if she is eating 'slop' like soupy rice with some cooked chicken... yes, she may have digestion problems.. plus boiled chicken & rice has not much nutrition Most doggy people use boiled rice/chicken as a soothing meal for temporary use only. Try her on the boiled rice ..NO extra liquid ..and the chicken..with a teaspoonful of mashed cooked pumpkin or sweet potato . If she drinks water.. she does not need extra liquid in her food ... ;) I would also try her on a nice raw chicken wing ..or turkey wing,and see how she goes ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinon Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 She usually has rice and chicken stock/boiled chicken for dinner, and normal kibble for breakky. She just had dental surgery half a month ago, and according to the vet, she's due to stop having chicken and rice in another two weeks or so. Hm... About the sloppy, good point. My mum is so obsessed with hygiene and her remaining teeth after she mixes the stuff, and reheats it in the microwave until it looks like a smoothie. Though we add kibble to that as well. Maybe I should start fixing her food... Also, she seems to have developed an adversity to dog biscuits. She eats them, but only when she's very hungry. My friend said sometimes when dogs got older they like more smelly stuff, and said I could try putting a bit of onion powder in her biscuits and heat it a bit to make it stinky, but that doesn't sound right... I'd always thought dogs couldn't eat onion, powder and all. So... Is there another way which preferably does not involve onions to make kibble more appetising? She just sniffs it, eats one or two (and those biscuits are about the size of half one of my nails) and leaves it until she's hungry. I've tried taking it away until her next meal but she just doesn't eat it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 My mum is so obsessed with hygiene and her remaining teeth after she mixes the stuff, and reheats it in the microwave until it looks like a smoothie. try your little dog on some (shhh, don' tell your Mum) raw beef mince with the rice ... and if she enjoys the beef.. use a little bit to mix her bikkies in.. coat the bikkies well . Mind you , if she has sore gums.. eating bikkies will hurt you could soak the bikkies ..SLIGHTLY .. not into soup ;) just so they start to swell/are a bit soft .. and se if she will eat them then? How old is this dog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinon Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 The vet gave a guesstimate of 7 last year, which would be 8 now. Though he said he thought she can actually be any age between 7 and 10. Raw beef mince? I remember seeing those in the supermarket, specially for dogs. Does it have to be that type or can it be the stuff I usually make burgers with? Without any herbs or anything, just plain mince? She enjoys everything except salad greens and dog biscuits. We've sometimes sprinkle the bikkies with chicken stock or the soup/water we get from boiling the chicken, she eats the top that's been soaked, then leaves the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 .. she's certainly not 'old' ...a good 'pet mince has some offal/muscle meat/minced bone in it..and should NOT be cooked ( it is human grade meat ,and perfectly fine...plus if you cook bone it can clog up or injure your dog) I don't use canned food .. BUT there is one available which has more good stuff than bad , I think.. Nature's Gift.. in the supermarket perhaps she can eat that instead of the chicken/rice?..all you need to is open the can! No adding liquid or anything Whatever you try .. introduce it gradually . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinon Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I've bought her Nature's Gift before, she looooved it. What about My Dog? She seems to love My Dog Beef and veggie especially... Also, she has a heart murmur. The vet says nothing to worry about for now, but, um, well, I'm very worried. I knew someone who's horse had a heart murmur and supposedly died of it at the age of 20 something, we never kept up regular correspondence. But from the digging I did, I never did actually get a firm word on it's fatality. So... Would anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I think Nature's Gift has more FOOD in it than the other ..and is cheaper ;) heart murmurs? Why not start a thread and ask? I know there have been several queries on here recently..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinon Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Haha, she'd like that. To have more food, the main objective of her life apart from 24/7 out in the park claiming more territory. OK, I will, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyGB Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 lamb necks ..NOT lamb neck chops!!! Lamb neck chops are ok for very tiny dogs or cats .... otherwise they pose a danger if gulped Yes, it's right to get that clear. I've also had trouble with a greedy dog and lamb flaps. Got it. Lamb Necks, not chops/flaps. Are these easy to find? Would a butcher generally have them or do I need to source them from elsewhere? Don't worry I'm not feeding him any small bones after the chicken neck incident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeyjangels Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 What parasites do chickens have, do you think? Those chickens are ,I believe extremely well looked after, medicine wise .. and there are no parasites that I know of which live in the bones/meat of human consumption chickens . perhaps try her with lamb ribs , or rabbit pieces , or turkey wing/neck , if you think she is sensitive to chicken ;) Why does she eat rice? What other food does she eat and enjoy? Can she eat minced lamb/beef ? What about cooked/mashed sweet potato/pumpkin? If she is Ok with these things maybe you could use them.. that way she wouldn't need chicken stock, or rice . Note : ANY different foods need to be introduced a little at a time , to avoid upsets . That goes for treats too .... Mind you, packaged chicken stock often has some onion/herbs etc in it .. try making your own, using JUST chicken .. and se if she tolerates that better , perhaps? My boys are fed completely raw (human grade) & I believe from my research deep freezing kills any potential parasites germs etc, So I'm always a few meals ahead & all their food as soon as I purchase it, goes into the freezer for at least 24 hours before I defrost & feed just to be on the safe side. Believe that is why BARF is sold frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayle. Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 There are no parasites in meat sold in Australia. Farmers have very strict health regulations to abide by, as do abattoirs and butchers and anyone else handling the meat from conception to sale. Freezing does not kill bacteria (germs), and BARF is sold frozen for ease of storage, I would imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RosieFT Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 ok, my dog gets raw chicken meat/bones every night and premium kibble makes up the rest of her diet. Her teeth are not sparkly white :-( .. i am envious of sparkly white teeth. I thaw her chicken in microwave and err on side of caution so sometimes part of it is still frozen. Since a young puppy i have noticed wear on her canines and have asked the vet each time i go. First one told me it was from tennis balls and to never use them as they are abrasive - so out went the tennis balls. She is a ball oriented dog but is never left with a ball to chew on in the back yard, the ball gets played with and then packed away. And not with a tennis ball. Next vet said some dogs (like people) just have soft enamel. 3rd vet went with the 'ball loving dogs have shocking teeth' - i have been looking at ball obsessed dogs' teeth with great interest since and have found many with perfect pearly whites - even my friends dog who is left with several tennis balls to chew to bits all day every day. Rosie has flattened canines and yellowish hind teeth. She has not got stinky breath though, thank goodness!! Last night i ducked out and managed to get thighs taht had been marked down - those got munched up too :-) . Finally had some time after work to get her usual pile of wings, but am wondering now about the fat??!?!?! Rosie is a very lean dog and could do with a bit of fat on her, especially as she shakes and shivers now it is cold (yes, she does have a coat!) . Is it bad to feed wings then? I will mix them up from now on, now i know she can eat all the other leg parts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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