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Dog/puppy Buyer Scam!


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I don't usually post stuff in forums but I thought I'd let other members know.

Another scam is doing the rounds. :mad

This one is being sent to everyone who has an email address on the net because I don't even have any pups advertised :confused:

Mate,

My wife has fallen in love with your beautiful puppies. We have just relocated to the United Kingdom and i am currently working on a research programme with the American Institute of Foreign Study in England in the UK and we need the puppy for a companion and i would have the puppy picked up from your location by a certified animal shipping company after you have received your payment.

We don't mind to buy 2 puppies (Both Sex) only if you give us a reasonable price. I can make the payment through my PayPal account. I believe PayPal is secure and faster means of payment. If its ok with you, you can give me your final asking price for the 2 puppies so that we could proceed with the payment.

Hope to hear from you as soon as possible.

Henry.

Who are these idiots and is anybody silly enough to send them their pups without meeting the people their pups are going to?? :mad

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I haven't met either of the breeders of my dogs :o

That said, scams like this really highlight the need to screen properly, don't they? Guess they're hoping to catch the BYBs with dollar signs in their eyes :)

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I don't meet a lot of overseas clients and the the dogs end up with a wonderful life.

If they are paying through Pay Pal, which many of us use to pay for our Imports, certainly easier than the bank and usually much cheaper. I have not heard of a scammer asking for payment this way before.

Maybe you should look into the purchaser a little further :)

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The same sort of scam is happening with privately advertised cars. In fact it was tried on my advertisement and the buyer is almost always offshore. I think how the Paypal works is that they actually 'send' more than the asking price, and Paypal will not actually pay out because the amount is incorrect. In the meantime the 'buyer' sends a copy of the 'payment' and the seller believes the transaction has been completed. The pups are picked up and seller is minus pup/s and money.

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This is a scam and has been done on all sorts of goods not just dogs.

The way it works is the buyer pays $100,000 by cheque or western union and then contacts the seller and says that he has overpaid by an extra zero as price should have been $10,000 and asks seller to transfer difference back - $90,000 - seller does this and then bank informs that original payment by buyer is fraudulent - the buyer is overseas but not in the country stated so is near impossible to track down.

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Although it sounds Dodgy I'm not sure how the scam works because if money is paypal'd over to you then you'd have the money?

I had a heap of these type when we sold our car. They offer more than asking price, supposedly pay by paypal (but send you scam paypal emails - always read very carefully the email address), then ask you to pay back the extra via Western union to the third party who supposedly will pick up the goods. There is never any intention to get the dog or item off you, just for you to transfer the difference via western union.

One we got was from Paul FISH who was an oceanographer :laugh: who needed a third party to pick up our $50 000 Prado that he was buying as a gift to his son. :eek: The name had me suss straight up. I then recieved about 3 nasty emails from Western Australia Police (another fake web page they had done up) threatening legal action if I did not send money to the third party. Might have been a bit more believable if someone with English as a first language had written it though. Was quite laughable after I got over the hide of them.

I think emails asking for "your final asking price" are always a give away. I recieved one yesterday:

Dear sir,

I am a labrador retriever lover and breeder in Macau and Hong Kong. Now I am looking for champion labrador retriever black young male . I am very interest in champion labrador retriever black young male. How much are you asking and shipping to Macau? Thank you for your attention on this e-mail, look forward to hearing from you soon.

Hmmm, if someone was really after a champion dog, I think the first question would relate to the parents or health testing, and as the price is in my ads and on my website, it is generally not something I get asked.

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Although it sounds Dodgy I'm not sure how the scam works because if money is paypal'd over to you then you'd have the money?

I had a heap of these type when we sold our car. They offer more than asking price, supposedly pay by paypal (but send you scam paypal emails - always read very carefully the email address), then ask you to pay back the extra via Western union to the third party who supposedly will pick up the goods. There is never any intention to get the dog or item off you, just for you to transfer the difference via western union.

Same for us when we were selling some furniture through trading post. If you are ever 'suss' on people just type their email address and 'scam' after it into google and if there is anything suss it comes up. One particular guy who did this same thing for us came up everywhere for a scammer, from cars, to furniture to horses! All same story, moving here from overseas, paying top dollar etc, pay by paypal and do the difference as a refund...

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One we got was from Paul FISH who was an oceanographer :laugh: who needed a third party to pick up our $50 000 Prado that he was buying as a gift to his son. :eek:The name had me suss straight up.

I actually got an email from Muhammad Ali- who's apparently moved to Africa, set up an oil business and just needs me to transfer him a small fee so I can collect the eleventybillion dollars he borrowed off me once.

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One we got was from Paul FISH who was an oceanographer :laugh: who needed a third party to pick up our $50 000 Prado that he was buying as a gift to his son. :eek:The name had me suss straight up.

I actually got an email from Muhammad Ali- who's apparently moved to Africa, set up an oil business and just needs me to transfer him a small fee so I can collect the eleventybillion dollars he borrowed off me once.

:laugh: Yes, i don't use one of my email adresses for this reason anymore! If I do sign into it, there are 500 emails telling me how rich I am!! It's either some overseas lottery, a long lost dead relo, some millionaire dying wanting to gift their millions to me, the russian mob needing me to move money for them....it's endless!

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This is a scam and has been done on all sorts of goods not just dogs.

The way it works is the buyer pays $100,000 by cheque or western union and then contacts the seller and says that he has overpaid by an extra zero as price should have been $10,000 and asks seller to transfer difference back - $90,000 - seller does this and then bank informs that original payment by buyer is fraudulent - the buyer is overseas but not in the country stated so is near impossible to track down.

Why on earth though would someone transfer money back to someone, without the cheque first being cleared and you have it as CASH, not uncleared funds. Maybe they deserve to be scammed eek1.gifembarrass.gif

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I actually got sent one of these scams via snail mail last year :laugh: and then i received one from a "hitman" that was hired to take me out, in a apparent moment of humanity he found he could not do it .... for a price. Of course should i go to the police i would be dead before i arrived (so apparently telepathic as well) :laugh: Made me feel pretty important!

ACMA deal with this type of thing and can only combat it if you forward them on to them :)

Busted Up Cowgirl used to string them along and cost them money by making them call her and actually sending a cheque and if she can manage it two :laugh: she is out of action now but one of her letters can be found on this LINK - its pretty funny :laugh:

ETA - its not the one of hers i thought it was, but humerous none the less.

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One we got was from Paul FISH who was an oceanographer :laugh: who needed a third party to pick up our $50 000 Prado that he was buying as a gift to his son. :eek:The name had me suss straight up.

I actually got an email from Muhammad Ali- who's apparently moved to Africa, set up an oil business and just needs me to transfer him a small fee so I can collect the eleventybillion dollars he borrowed off me once.

:laugh: Yes, i don't use one of my email adresses for this reason anymore! If I do sign into it, there are 500 emails telling me how rich I am!! It's either some overseas lottery, a long lost dead relo, some millionaire dying wanting to gift their millions to me, the russian mob needing me to move money for them....it's endless!

One of my more recent dog-related ones was requesting boarding..

Hello,

Compliments of the day,i am Mr Greg Woods from the United kingdom,i want to check availability for my pets in your facility,i got this pets on my birthday and i want to make reservations for grooming,bathing,obedience training,this reservations will run from the month Sept 5th to 30th 2011.i am on a summit around your area and i will be visiting your facility after two weeks of my pets stay,i hope this is acceptable, i do not have much knowledge on pets and not really use to them so i would like to know what to bring to your facility, Do you have any boarding agreements? what are the hours of operations?What are your payment option ?Do you accept credit cards?(visa, master card)Get back to me in details with necessary information i need to know,enclose the total cost of your services,or an estimate of the cost of this booking,i await your suggestions and reply towards my request,hope to hear from you soonest.

I guess they figured out people weren't buying the yorkie puppy scam anymore.

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