Ptolomy Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Just caught the last bit - Scoota is on holiday just have a good time . I have to laugh - yes he is on holidays - never would I swim him the day of a trial, or the day before for that matter. Well he had a half an hour this morning - swimming and running around the dam, came in and played ball with his mate to dry off - so expect to not get out of third gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tassie Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Ptolomy - of course, if he does really well, you realise you've just created a new pre-trial training routine you'll have to stick to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 and I don't bet he didn't enjoy every moment of that. Sooo much better then a trial . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedazzledx2 Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 I think that bloody fairy flew over and crapped on me!!!! Very windy and trillions of leaves everywhere so I didn't hold out much hope for multiple retrieve. We didn't get that far. Found the decoy seekback...realised it wasn't the right one...went and had a look around but ended up bringing me the wrong one! Left the ring. He won UD but he's not working well at the moment and subbed by not sitting in the box. I think he's a bit sore and have made an appointment for acupuncture. Good luck Ptolomy! Kallistar I would mention it to the judge before the signals and hope it all goes well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kallistar Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 I think that bloody fairy flew over and crapped on me!!!! Very windy and trillions of leaves everywhere so I didn't hold out much hope for multiple retrieve. We didn't get that far. Found the decoy seekback...realised it wasn't the right one...went and had a look around but ended up bringing me the wrong one! Left the ring. He won UD but he's not working well at the moment and subbed by not sitting in the box. I think he's a bit sore and have made an appointment for acupuncture. Good luck Ptolomy! Kallistar I would mention it to the judge before the signals and hope it all goes well. buggar about the fairy crapping on you in UDX, I think that she is just being plain mean at the moment. Congrats on winning UD though. And thanks for the advise. I am so over being sick it is not funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 I hear Scoota didn't do to badly tonight given he has been in holiday mode - not sure what happened in UDX but I do know he came second in both UD and Open with good scores. Well done Ptolomy and Scoota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Tonight we had a lovely UDX judge who decided that UDX dogs were extra good so he was going to make it extra hard for them to pass. Needless to say - 9 dogs entered and surprise surprise - no passes. I was first in the ring and was happy with Moo - what we failed were his weak points and his other exercises are getting better He sat outside the cones to the left, MIssed a stand in COP and tried to bring back a marker in the blind retrieve. He then came out and put in his best UD round in ages and finished 2nd with 193 and then backed it up with 2nd in open with 194. He is sound asleep now - bless him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Congrats Scoota! What did the UDX judge do to make it harder on the dogs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 (edited) Congrats Scoota! What did the UDX judge do to make it harder on the dogs? Seekback - Put the handler scented article right next to the ring rope that separated the UD and UDX ring - the decoy was right in the middle of the ring and we had less than 10 seconds to put our smell on the article. PIM - the commands were different to what we get in WA Cloths - were 20cm at most apart Cones - you were sending your dog back towards the start peg and they were the small UDX cones Distance Control - hmm think that was pretty normal. Blind retrieve - hmmm OUtside the ring this judge had markers - so the ones we use for stays that stick into the ground - well instead of putting them into the ground so that they were flush with the grass - he turned them on their side so the were raised, so when you tried to do a blind retrieve all the dog saw were these markers and of course the occassionally clever one - raced out and tried to bring one back. The one he tried to pick up was actually the sendaway marker. Edited October 29, 2011 by Ptolomy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kallistar Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Tonight we had a lovely UDX judge who decided that UDX dogs were extra good so he was going to make it extra hard for them to pass. Needless to say - 9 dogs entered and surprise surprise - no passes. I was first in the ring and was happy with Moo - what we failed were his weak points and his other exercises are getting better He sat outside the cones to the left, MIssed a stand in COP and tried to bring back a marker in the blind retrieve. He then came out and put in his best UD round in ages and finished 2nd with 193 and then backed it up with 2nd in open with 194. He is sound asleep now - bless him Well done on your UD and Open scores and buggar on the UDx one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kallistar Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Congrats Scoota! What did the UDX judge do to make it harder on the dogs? Seekback - Put the handler scented article right next to the ring rope that separated the UD and UDX ring - the decoy was right in the middle of the ring and we had less than 10 seconds to put our smell on the article. Jeepers that was hard. Was it a forward or a reverse? And was you facing down the ring or across the ring? PIM - the commands were different to what we get in WA What was different between the two? Cloths - were 20cm at most apart jeepers.. was it a straight line or a shape? I must get out today and practise this exercise as the next jugde that I have entered under has done a circle and put his one in the middle.. not my fave patten at all Cones - you were sending your dog back towards the start peg and they were the small UDX cones had this not so long ago and Tux kept on going through the cones as we had never done it before Distance Control - hmm think that was pretty normal. and can you remember the pattern?[/ Blind retrieve - hmmm OUtside the ring this judge had markers - so the ones we use for stays that stick into the ground - well instead of putting them into the ground so that they were flush with the grass - he turned them on their side so the were raised, so when you tried to do a blind retrieve all the dog saw were these markers and of course the occassionally clever one - raced out and tried to bring one back. The one he tried to pick up was actually the sendaway marker. Well he could see the marker and just knew that you wanted to see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Distance Control was Down, sit, stand, sit, down, stand Seekback we were facing down the ring - they were long rings. Cloths were in a pattern I hadn't had before - 4 along the back row - three in the next row and then 2 at the front. The designated cloth was in the front row. PIM - stand position coming up......now....about turn and then it was collect your dog while you were walking away from your dog. He did all the PIM first - then we had all three positions in normal pace, slow pace and fast pace. In UD last night - the signals heel pattern we started off in slow pace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kallistar Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Distance Control was Down, sit, stand, sit, down, stand Seekback we were facing down the ring - they were long rings. Cloths were in a pattern I hadn't had before - 4 along the back row - three in the next row and then 2 at the front. The designated cloth was in the front row. PIM - stand position coming up......now....about turn and then it was collect your dog while you were walking away from your dog. He did all the PIM first - then we had all three positions in normal pace, slow pace and fast pace. In UD last night - the signals heel pattern we started off in slow pace! the DC was not an easy pattern to do. Tux nearly always creeps forward with that one. SB:I much prefer facing down the ring than across it . Tux nearly always goes into the next ring when we are about turned and halt when it is across the ring. Cloths. I have had that one before Also are you being told where to stand for this exercise? I know that it is to be at least 5metres away from the cloths but shouldn't it be the handler that decided where to stand? The orders for the PIM wasn't right, if my memory serves me correctly, the orders in the ANKC rule book clearly state that the orders are Sit postion coming up..........Now.....about turn, (you walk pass your dog) approx 3 metres about turn and then COLLECT but you cannot argue with your judge.. And wow slow pace to begin with in Signals in UD.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 PIM - stand position coming up......now....about turn and then it was collect your dog while you were walking away from your dog. He did all the PIM first - then we had all three positions in normal pace, slow pace and fast pace. In UD last night - the signals heel pattern we started off in slow pace! I don't get it When were you meant to collect your dog? Maybe you need to explain this one to me in person Should starting a heel pattern in slow or fast pace be something I should train too just in case?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedazzledx2 Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 Nope....hopefully most judges will follow the ANKC rules ;) Certainly its worth training for a proofing exercise but not many UDX judges would not follow the basic instructions laid down in the rule book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Nope....hopefully most judges will follow the ANKC rules ;) Certainly its worth training for a proofing exercise but not many UDX judges would not follow the basic instructions laid down in the rule book. Is this in relation to starting a heel pattern in slow or fast pace, or PIM for UDX? I'm beyond tired and easily confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 RS - Kenz went through a stage of my entire heel pattern was slow pace until she settled enough with her crabbing and I would slowly start upping the pace as we progressed. She would be quite happy to start a heel pattern at slow . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedazzledx2 Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 Sorry I was referring to PIM for UDX. I have no problem with judges starting a heel pattern in any pace...perfectly within the rules but not often done these days. Years ago we used to have a couple of judges who would routinely start in fast pace and one who always sent you into the figure 8 in fast!!! Lots of fast little steps!!! Nope....hopefully most judges will follow the ANKC rules ;) Certainly its worth training for a proofing exercise but not many UDX judges would not follow the basic instructions laid down in the rule book. Is this in relation to starting a heel pattern in slow or fast pace, or PIM for UDX? I'm beyond tired and easily confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 (edited) Nope....hopefully most judges will follow the ANKC rules ;) Certainly its worth training for a proofing exercise but not many UDX judges would not follow the basic instructions laid down in the rule book. This is Queensland we are talking about The UD judge said that he did things differently to most other judges cos he didn't do the Xmas Tree heel pattern and was very surprised when I told him that Queensland was the only place where you got every position in every pace in CCD. I did enjoy the UD ring the other night. I forgot about there being a mat for the scent articles and I opted for the ground and with the grass being so long, and lighting not great - you couldn't actually see the wood or leather articles, so it became another seekback . Also, Brookie and Scoota do seekback by sight, because of the lebgth of grass Moo was forced to use his nose - very interesting...... This is the third time I have edited this post Kallistar - in every state other than Victoria you are told where to take up position for the scxent articles and wash cloths, Victoria is the only place where you can choose where to send your dog from. I remember Margaret Deakes giving me a choice when we did the Nationals there a couple of years ago - it nearly did my head in - too many choices Edited October 30, 2011 by Ptolomy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedazzledx2 Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 in every state other than Victoria you are told where to take up position for the scxent articles and wash cloths, Victoria is the only place where you can choose where to send your dog from. I remember Margaret Deakes giving me a choice when we did the Nationals there a couple of years ago - it nearly did my head in - ...add Tasmania to that...did my head in too:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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