Dogsrawesome Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Belgian shepherd - any variety. Ticks all your boxes. Beautiful, beautiful dogs. Thats what i was thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panzer Attack! Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 This is a bit of a different suggestion, but have you ever seen what a black/grey Standard Poodle looks like shaved right down? Fits every single criteria you have E x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 This is a bit of a different suggestion, but have you ever seen what a black/grey Standard Poodle looks like shaved right down? Fits every single criteria you have E x Except for "low grooming". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I actually second a boxer- ticks all the boxes! Although if you want more sedate, why not a Bull Mastiff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panzer Attack! Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Oh, poo, I didn't see that part, just the low shedding. It's not too hard to learn how to do a #10 all over, but with a child I totally understand the time issue! My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staranais Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I wouldn't say my belgian was especially good with kids. She's also very high energy, which I'm not sure if Haven wants? Not all belgians are as extreme as mine, but I personally wouldn't recommend a belgian for Haven's situation, unless perhaps she could get an older one with known temperament. I second the recommendation for a black lab. Or if you don't mind an adult dog, how about getting an adult stafford with a good attitude towards other dogs. Or how about a bull mastiff? Pretty sure they're quite solid with kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haven Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 Sorry but why not another rotty? I think they are pretty well known for being great with kids if you get from a good breeder and socialise and train them well. I also thought a black lab- although many are high drive and exhuberant, if you get a well bred lab from guide dog or assistance dog lines or even ask the breeder specifically for a low drive dog, I think they would be just as laid back and steady as a mastiff type dog. Cane Corso aren't particulary well known for being great with other dogs. How about a great dane? They are known to be genlt with kids, good with other dogs and low sheedding and definitely imposing!!! Great Dane and larger dogs are really too big. I've had issues in the past at times when I needed to physically manipulate my dogs for various reasons and struggled because they were so big. While I prefer a larger dog, something that comes with the convenience of being able to throw it over my shoulder is appealing too I'd love another Rotti, although I have said in the past that I probably wouldn't get another one because I've seen a lot of health issues in the dogs I've known (and unlike most breeds I've known far more pedigree Rottweilers than BYB ones). It would probably be an easier decision if the breeder that would be first on my list was expecting a litter anytime soon! Italian spinone, doberman;weimaraner;dalmation;boxer;???Grasping at straws now,out of ideas. Actually, an Italian Spinone looks to be a great suggestion. I have briefly looked them up but they are another breed I've not come across in person, does anyone here have one? A well bred/raised Dalmatian tends to be great with kids but are high energy, particularly for their first few years! On the up side they only shed twice a year...6 months in the Autumn and 6 months in the Spring ;) And yeah, with PF on the grooming aspect of poodles. A lot of my family members have poodles and the amount it costs them in clipping is shocking! I could keep a horse for that much! Belgians I love, but wouldn't they require a lot of grooming? Except maybe a malinios, which I would have loved once but I was thinking they would be a bit of overkill in terms of drive, energy level etc now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I actually second a boxer- ticks all the boxes! Although if you want more sedate, why not a Bull Mastiff? I know a few Boxers that aren't good with dogs. But I know a lot of dogs that aren't good with Boxers.. I think their facial shape and eye shape makes them difficult to read for a lot of dogs. A standard Boxer expression looks like a hard stare to other dogs. They seem to draw a lot of aggressive responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zug Zug Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) If you like Rotties, get another Rottie. I think once you've found a breed that suits you, then why not stick with the winning formula? Flat coated retrievers would tick most of your boxes, although they shed the same way as a labrador or Rottie or whatever. But low maintenance (relatively) and a fairly large, black dog so would make most people think twice, but with a nice low tendency towards actual aggression. Plus I think they are really beautiful (although I don't have a real fondness for dogs that look 'imposing' so your tastes may be quite different to mine) I was badly attacked by a Boxer once. I think this was a fairly unusual occurrence. But I can't agree they aren't prone to aggression. Some are (this one was really, really bad). I know you could say that about most breeds though. Edited May 12, 2011 by Zug Zug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyosha Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) Sorry Staranais. On thinking, maybe not a Malinois - they can be intense. But all the Groens and Tervs I've known as family dogs (and our Groen we had long ago) have been awesome with little kids, other dogs and pets/livestock. Or a Dobe? eta - spelling Edited May 12, 2011 by Alyosha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) Italian spinone, doberman;weimaraner;dalmation;boxer;???Grasping at straws now,out of ideas. Actually, an Italian Spinone looks to be a great suggestion. I have briefly looked them up but they are another breed I've not come across in person, does anyone here have one? Monah and AdoubleJ do http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/211049-new-puppy/page__p__5013913__hl__%2Bitalian+%2Bspinone__fromsearch__1#entry5013913 they are on my one day list....soooooo gorgeous!!!! Edited May 12, 2011 by Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FHRP Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) Actually, an Italian Spinone looks to be a great suggestion. I have briefly looked them up but they are another breed I've not come across in person, does anyone here have one? I used to have Spinone, they are lovely dogs. They do shed and have wet beards and big feet that tracks in lots of dirt If you're terribly house proud they may not be a good idea. They are large dogs, a bit bigger than I thougt you were after, but certainly worth looking at. Pups and young dogs can be quite active and as boisterous as any gundog breed, but they mature into wonderful laid back dogs. Be prepared for a long wait though, litters are few and far between in Australia Edited May 12, 2011 by FHRP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haven Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 A Dobe I have considered and I have seen some truly lovely examples of the breed in my time that I wouldn't hesitate to own, but I'm a bit put off by the comments of a very well known and respected breeder of Dobes I know, whom I have heard acknowledge that they can be unstable in terms of temperament. I didn't realise a Spinone was quite that big. I suppose I'd set the cut off at about 40kg and I would prefer something smaller, but size is something I'd compromise more readily on. For the most part size can be managed with training, but it was a PITA with my GSD for example, who had some health and temperament issues (he was a rescue), if I needed to move him quickly and he resisted or was unable to cooperate because of a medical emergency etc. My Nova girl is almost perfect, but she is a big galoompha for running around and bowling over all and sundry in her not so youthful exuberance and this seems to be common in the breed in general from what I have seen. If she would just live forever and be happy as an only dog then my problem would be solved! Sadly though she is getting on in years and I don't think she she will be with us much longer Chewy, do WSS shed the same amount as the 'traditional' GSDs do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haven Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 Can anyone elaborate on grooming requirements for Curly Coated and Flatcoated Retrievers? Various websites I've looked at say minimal and one even said never to use a brush, however other sites have them marked as medium to medium-high amount of grooming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayle. Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 A Flatcoat Retriever would be about as much grooming as a lab...not much at all. Maybe a gentle comb through the long bits every now and then but they have a mostly short, silky coat that doesn't look like it would mat at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 The flat coats i have met have been highly strung and high energy- may not be typical but certainly my experience. I still think with Haven's experience, a boxer is a good choice- well bred and well trained fits the criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I actually second a boxer- ticks all the boxes! Although if you want more sedate, why not a Bull Mastiff? I know a few Boxers that aren't good with dogs. But I know a lot of dogs that aren't good with Boxers.. I think their facial shape and eye shape makes them difficult to read for a lot of dogs. A standard Boxer expression looks like a hard stare to other dogs. They seem to draw a lot of aggressive responses. And they tend to play with their feet from what I've seen. Some dogs find that a bit intense. Others love it. My parents have a Boxer cross that plays like a Boxer, only she's smaller and lighter on her feet. Kivi is a fan of contact sports. He'll play with her for hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgiew Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Also consider Chesapeake bay retriever. Evidently they share some traits of the curly and flat coats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest english.ivy Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Didn't read replies but an English Pointer Hardly any grooming, my boy doesn't really shed. He loves any dog he meets. He rarely needs a bath either and doesn't smell .. unless he's rolled in something; boys! If you want to go for a run, they'll come for a run; if you want to chill at home; they'll chill and sleep at your feet They are just happy to be with their family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Also consider Chesapeake bay retriever. Evidently they share some traits of the curly and flat coats. What they don't tend to share is their reliability with other dogs. Chessies can be sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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