Treatment Options For Hip Dysplasia

[NaturallyWild]

can Hd turn into Arthritis ?

woudl new xrays shows if HD got worse ?

Joint Guard where do you get this from ?

Glucosamine is this the human one ?

TechnyFlex Canine , this would be from the Vets ?

Vitamin C , is human one ?

Massage , from who ?

(that sounds a dumb question ) but could I massage his hips for him

Thank you

Yes HD can allow for the development of arthritis, but does not always occur. The current research available shows a very high correlation between HD, being overweight and the development of arthritis. Many dogs with bad HD but were of good weight and fit did not show arthritis till much later in life (eg 13 or so years).

New xrays would show if the had been any changes in the hips and if the HD had gotten worse

Joint Guard can be found on the net - just search well as there are big price differences.

Glucosamine is found in Joint Guard. My only concern is the high levels of Chondroitin sulphate of which very little is absorbed in the guts due to the large molecular size. Otherwise fairly good product.

Technyflex can be found at various sites eg greenpet.com.au - i supply the human labelled product (exact same thing) which can also be used for animals.

Joint supplements take about 1 month to take effect (and you usually give a larger dose initially and then drop down to a maintenance dose).

Vitamin C - human grade is fine. Ester C is a brand that is in a format that is easier on the digestive system. You can supply the vitamin c gradually increasing the amount until bowel tolerance (ie loose stools) and then reduce the level back a bit until a better level is achieved.

I would also look at an omega 3 supplement - eg fish oil (not just tinned sardines as they loose most of their oils) or flaxseed oil to help with things such as inflammation.

Massage, bowen, acupuncture, trigger point, hydrotherapy, chiropractic, etc are all useful in keeping the muscles and joints in good health, better movement and providing some pain relief. If you are interested in doing some massage yourself - if you saw a therapist they should be able to show you some specific things to do to help with the problem. Gently stroking through the muscles will at least help with circulation.

The main things that help with joint diseases are keeping the weight off (i prefer to see slightly under weight unless there are other medical issues involved), keeping the joints moving, the muscles strong, and supplementing to provide the nutrients for the body to stay in the best possible health.

The earlier you can implement these type of things the better the result will be. Many of these i often advise as a preventative.

Edited May 11, 2007 by NaturallyWild

[Tara and Sam]

Thank you for the replys

I now have some more information to ask the vet , as new xrays

some of these recomended sound as though they would be ok for my cocker spaniel to have also

although she hasnt shown any signs of Hd , but the Ester C and Omega 3 certainly shouldnt hurt

appreciate the feed back

Thank you

[ashka1]

You may want to have a read of this..

http://www.workingdogs.com/doc0039.htm

anything is worth a try, I use ester C

[mamasgoldenboy]

Our 2yr old cocker spaniel has HD and we give him Ester C with his dinner and he is on glucosamine tablets and he has catrophen injections every winter. Mavericks sister has HD as well as his Auntie. We also swim Maverick daily and he is only allowed to run on the grass. I am also looking at importing some natural medication from the USA. The site is found here.

http://www.vetcures.com/arthrotol.html?gcl...CFRcGEgodj22gyg

[Tara and Sam]

those sites do look very interesting indeed

I tried ringng my vet today , but they were flat out busy , so going to ring tomorrow and chat with him

with the Ester C do you give powder form or tablet form

Sam has never needed injections every winter , or was never suggested by the vet

he hasnt actually limped for years , until this cooler weather came in

he has never shown any signs of being in pain

and I'm now wondering if he has been in pain and hasnt shown it ,

and starting to feel guilty we may have missed if he was in pain

[mamasgoldenboy]

Maverick has the powder form that we purchased from the health shop, it costs $23.65 for the 100grams of powder. Ester C is gentle on the stomach, he only has a sprinkle every night on his food. The chemist also sells the Ester C just pays to check the use by date.

[Tara and Sam]

Maverick has the powder form that we purchased from the health shop, it costs $23.65 for the 100grams of powder. Ester C is gentle on the stomach, he only has a sprinkle every night on his food. The chemist also sells the Ester C just pays to check the use by date.

Yes I had read it was not as acidity for tummys

certainly wont hurt them that is for sure

I did like the sound of this one also

Technyflex

sounds liek it also has a combination of the others also recommended

Thank you

[ashka1]

I currently use the tablets of Ester C, $10 per 60 tablets at the chemist. 675mg tablet

[~Archie~]

can Hd turn into Arthritis ?

woudl new xrays shows if HD got worse ?

Joint Guard where do you get this from ?

Glucosamine is this the human one ?

TechnyFlex Canine , this would be from the Vets ?

Vitamin C , is human one ?

Massage , from who ?

(that sounds a dumb question ) but could I massage his hips for him

Thank you

Yes HD can allow for the development of arthritis, but does not always occur. The current research available shows a very high correlation between HD, being overweight and the development of arthritis. Many dogs with bad HD but were of good weight and fit did not show arthritis till much later in life (eg 13 or so years).

New xrays would show if the had been any changes in the hips and if the HD had gotten worse

Joint Guard can be found on the net - just search well as there are big price differences.

Glucosamine is found in Joint Guard. My only concern is the high levels of Chondroitin sulphate of which very little is absorbed in the guts due to the large molecular size. Otherwise fairly good product.

Technyflex can be found at various sites eg greenpet.com.au - i supply the human labelled product (exact same thing) which can also be used for animals.

Joint supplements take about 1 month to take effect (and you usually give a larger dose initially and then drop down to a maintenance dose).

Vitamin C - human grade is fine. Ester C is a brand that is in a format that is easier on the digestive system. You can supply the vitamin c gradually increasing the amount until bowel tolerance (ie loose stools) and then reduce the level back a bit until a better level is achieved.

I would also look at an omega 3 supplement - eg fish oil (not just tinned sardines as they loose most of their oils) or flaxseed oil to help with things such as inflammation.

Massage, bowen, acupuncture, trigger point, hydrotherapy, chiropractic, etc are all useful in keeping the muscles and joints in good health, better movement and providing some pain relief. If you are interested in doing some massage yourself - if you saw a therapist they should be able to show you some specific things to do to help with the problem. Gently stroking through the muscles will at least help with circulation.

The main things that help with joint diseases are keeping the weight off (i prefer to see slightly under weight unless there are other medical issues involved), keeping the joints moving, the muscles strong, and supplementing to provide the nutrients for the body to stay in the best possible health.

The earlier you can implement these type of things the better the result will be. Many of these i often advise as a preventative.

Just thought I'd mention that the Chondroitin in Joint Guard is actually a low molecular weight so its absorption is fine.

The amount of Chondroitin in Joint Guard has been tried and tested and there are many studies reflecting this.

[NaturallyWild]

Just thought I'd mention that the Chondroitin in Joint Guard is actually a low molecular weight so its absorption is fine.

The amount of Chondroitin in Joint Guard has been tried and tested and there are many studies reflecting this.

Good to know - could you direct me to the info confirming the lower molecular weight and/or the studies. PM if you wish

I think Joint Guard is currently the most comprehensive joint supplement we have available - i'm hoping to get better into Aus (tough task though).

A problem with a lot of joint supplements out there is that they add various "fad" components that although found naturally occuring in the joint, cannot be utilised for various reasons when taken orally.

Edited May 13, 2007 by NaturallyWild

[frank]

Hello,

I am starting this thread as a carry on from the thread in the breeders forum " Is the breeder responsible for this? My pup has HD".

I am hoping to discuss treatment options for my alaskan malamute who is now 13 months old with anyone who has been through this or knows anything about this topic.

My pup first showed signs on Sunday 3rd Oct last year after playing at the dog park with 2 smaller dogs, he was 9 months old. I thought it was just an injury and our vet reccomended 3 weeks rest. After talking to our breeder who said there is no way its HD they sent us to their chiropractor Peter Schofield who after examining him said he has severe HD in the left side only. He also had his back out and problems with the siatic nerves. We were told to wait until 12 mths to do x-rays. We got the xrays back last week ( scored by Bob Wyburn) and they were 3/21 totalling 24. Australian grade 5 or an International grade E.

We have spoken to 3 vets and they have all reccomended a different operation! There are 3 ops that can be done on dogs with HD. A Total Hip replacement, a femoral head resection or a triple pelvic osteotomy. From what I understand, a TPO can only be done on dogs under 12 months, a total hip replacement can be done at any stage and a fem head is a salvage operation.

Has anybody had any experience with these ops? What is the recovery like?

We would like to avoid operating if we can. The breeders basically said hes your dog but if he was mine I wouldnt put him through an operation.

I have ordered some liquid glucosamine and want to give that a try first, has anybody used it before? Is it as good as I've heard it is?

To put it simply, our pup is normal 95% of the time. The only time he is in pain is after exercise when he gets home and goes to rest then trys to get up off the floor. His leg gets stiff and he limps around until hes warmed up again. He always favours his good leg and keeps most of the weight off his bad leg. He walks normally when hes not stiff or sore ( after exercise) and runs kicking his back legs out. He often lays with his belly down and legs stretched out behind him.

I would appreciate any feedback on what we should do so we can know what to ask the specialist this Friday. Do you think we should let our pup grow up some more first and try some alternative options? Hes not in pain most of the time, hes just a normal dog. We dont want to rush into an op if its not the best thing.

Regards

i had a german shephard with the same symptoms as your dog . diagnosed at 2 years . he started hurting his back legs at around 12 months during the extreme puppy stage . he was xrayed at 2 years , and the vet simply diagnosed quite severe hip dysplacia . he said 8 out of 10 , 10 being complete pelvic erosion. he did not recommend a hip replacement as he said the success rate isn't very good . he described it as a waste of time on animals because they cannot rest afterwards for months like us humans can. he als said the dog wouldnt make 5 years old .

i was devastated . anyhow as he got older he could've toed a boat he was that strong and rarely showed distress . only the trained eye could tell . he lived till 11yrs . i had to put him down due to cancer. for 10 years he was running and jumping . and didnt really hurt his legs much after the age of 3 .

i hope this give you some optomistic outlooks . at aint all doom and gloom !!!!!!!!!! good luck.

[claire]

My Wolfhoundxrotti had a triple pelvic osteotomy on one hip with resounding success.

It was done by Tony Black at Kuringai Veterinary hospital. It was unfortunate that the other hip was too far gone to do anything about as the procedure went so well. So he's on the natural remedies as well as his elbows are also buggered.

hi kaz,

this is nothing to do with HD. but if possible we would love to see photos of your wolfhoundxrotti. we have a rottix? and we think her mother looked a little like a wolfhound. our email is [email protected]. thank you.