julzjc Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 ..and perhaps a different vet? That's my next stop tomorrow avo. I took him to my old vet before as they were the only ones open after 5pm. I know there is a good vet around here somewhere, Canley Vale I think but no idea which one. I'll try googling later on. I went to the late night chemist and have given him rescue remedy. How long should it take to affect his appetite do you think? Got him to eat 1slice of ham and one pasta shell, that's it since Sunday. It's only been the past few days that we have left his bowl down. Otherwise he's closed on the verandah, exact same routine he had when Bonnie was with us and we watch him through the window. Praise him with a pat and "good boy" if we hand feed him but not fussing. With the satin balls, any suggestions on getting him to eat them? I can't even make him eat raw steak or chicken, what dog turns it's nose up at that?! Lamb necks, bones and any chicken part used to be he absolute favourite food. Vet check again tomorrow and I'll grab the nutrigel whilst I'm there. Just don't know what else to do with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 1slice of ham and one pasta shell, that's it since Sunday. That's really bad vet asap ..and yes, if he is apparently physically healthy , perhaps a drip or stomach tube just to get his metabolism going again ! He needs intervention now ,I think. Is he drinking? Will he drink egg flip or home made (no onion) chicken soup ? Will he show interest in canned foodat all? Gosh - I hope the vet can help. Re: rescue remedy .. dose every 20 mins or so this evening ..drop it on his gums , preferably , and continue often tomorrow - see if it helps.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raineth Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Poor Indi how did he go with the Rescue remedy last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.mister Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Oh no, poor poor Indie. As pers mentioned, liquids might be a good idea. I have a very good chicken soup recipe that produces a clear broth - if you'd like it, let me know. Hoping that he picks up soon. Poor boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 poor boy! You must be beside yourself. When my boy wasn't eating at all, while we were waiting for him to be diagnosed, the vet recommended putting some vegemite on his tongue. It has some good vitamins and electrolytes in it, and is probably a bit like Nutrigel if you don't have any. He did pick up a little after that. Good luck with the vet, and hope you get answers for him soon. He definitely looks like he needs intervention to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allerzeit Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I have no better advice to offer than what has already been offered, but just wanted to send you a big virtual and another to Indie! You must be beside yourself with worry I hope he starts to pick up very soon for you, poor baby ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karly101 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Poor boy, I can understand your anxiety, thats barely any food at all! Get some nutrigel/nutripet, and Hills A/D possibly, you may even have to force feed some into him but he needs energy. I think this is beyond grief I would highly suspect there is some medical cause, I would consider seeking an internal medicine specialist. Is he drinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirislin Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 He looks dreadfully thin to me and from what you say he's probably much thinner since those photos were taken. He looks quite alert in them though. I hope you can find the source of the problem and get him eating again soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowanbree Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I recently lost one of my dogs and for the first time ever had a similar issue with her best friend and playmate Reeve. Reeve wouldn't eat and wouldn't come inside. He was lying outside in the pouring rain all day and night. It was horrible so I know exactly how you are feeling. I would do a vet visit and rule out an issues and then consider an appetite stimulant such as Techtronic which has helped me immensely. I also made a real effort to get Reeve out and about. We have started doing Rally O beginners classes and after about a mth reeve started to improve. 6 weeks on he isn't really back to his normal self, he still looks very sad but he is a lot better. I personally didn't want to rush out and get another puppy because not only was I not ready and it wouldn't have been fair to the puppy but also there was no guarantee Reeve would bond with the new puppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esky the husky Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Oh poor Indie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 ..and perhaps a different vet? That's my next stop tomorrow avo. I took him to my old vet before as they were the only ones open after 5pm. I know there is a good vet around here somewhere, Canley Vale I think but no idea which one. I'll try googling later on. Vet check again tomorrow and I'll grab the nutrigel whilst I'm there. Just don't know what else to do with him? Canley heights Vet Clinic is the other practice owned by Austral Vet Clinic that so many of us (breeders) use. If possible try to see Jim, Terry or Bill. They are all very experienced vets. Definitely use nutrigel and just wipe a finger full at a time onto the roof of his mouth if he won't lick it himself. I have also used Di-Vetelact made up thick like cream to keep a dog going when it wouldn't eat, but would drink. Food wise the one thing I have found, even the most reluctant eater cannot resist, is cooked, boned rabbit. At this point it would be worth a try. Other than the suggestions already made, anti-depressants are likely to be needed or as a last resort try to borrow another dog for at least a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelaa17 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Again, so sorry. TBH, you are handling this much better than I would be. I would be crying and carrying on, not being able to think straight. So I take my hat off to you for staying strong and thinking clearly and getting advice. I just wanted to say good luck at the vet this afternoon, please keep us all updated on Indie and his progress. And I wouldn't worry about someone reporting you to Council. You have proof that he is not well and you are trying to do everything you can to make him better. Big hugs to you and Indie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julzjc Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 ..and perhaps a different vet? That's my next stop tomorrow avo. I took him to my old vet before as they were the only ones open after 5pm. I know there is a good vet around here somewhere, Canley Vale I think but no idea which one. I'll try googling later on. Vet check again tomorrow and I'll grab the nutrigel whilst I'm there. Just don't know what else to do with him? Canley heights Vet Clinic is the other practice owned by Austral Vet Clinic that so many of us (breeders) use. If possible try to see Jim, Terry or Bill. They are all very experienced vets. Definitely use nutrigel and just wipe a finger full at a time onto the roof of his mouth if he won't lick it himself. I have also used Di-Vetelact made up thick like cream to keep a dog going when it wouldn't eat, but would drink. Food wise the one thing I have found, even the most reluctant eater cannot resist, is cooked, boned rabbit. At this point it would be worth a try. Other than the suggestions already made, anti-depressants are likely to be needed or as a last resort try to borrow another dog for at least a few weeks. Thankyou dancinbcs, thats the one I have been trying to rack my brain for. I'll give them a call soon once I finalise getting someone to watch the kids this avo/night. I was ment to go see another vet this morning but my friend that was ment to take the kids had to cancel. No way can I take him with a 1yr,2yr,3yr and 5yr in tow. No luck with the Rescue remedy guys. He did a zoomie this morning and chased lizards for 10minutes but when I put down a bowl of fresh mince, he just licked it, MAYBE got a teaspoon of it into him then he just went back to bed. Ill try the chicken soup idea later on as he is drinking fin I had a good feel of his rear end last night and got pretty upset, felt like I wanted to be sick. Had a cry earlier when I stupidly googled "emaciated dog" so I could show you what he feels like under his fur....gutted isnt the word! He's not that far off a few of the photos, a tad more covering on his ribs but butt bone/spine/legs wise he is very similar. Reality check just hit me like a brick wall! Just waiting for my OH to call me back so I can gets the kids sorted out and then call up Canley Heights Vet. Which ones better, Canley or Austral? I can get to both, Im near Liverpool. Ive made a list of all your suggestions so I can run through it with the vet. Spoken with my OH, if he doesnt start eating soon, we will foster another dog for a few weeks and see if it helps him (then look for another family member in that time if it does, dont want to go through this again when the foster leaves). Idealy we would like to wait a while longer, we have barely had time to grieve for Bonnie with our concern being focused on Indie. But at the end of the day I will do anything to get Indie better. Dogs, who would have them! Ill post back after Ive seen the vet... WARNING MAY UPSET ~ EMACIATED DOG IMAGE I found a photo that VERY closely resembles what Indie looks like under his fur except he has a little more covering on his ribs. That is EXACTLY what his butt bones, legs and chest are like but his spine and hip bones are worse. Im desperate to go to the vet again now. http://maiapelleg.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/img_0179.jpg Come on Indie, just eat already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julzjc Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 Bloody hell, just got my hopes up because I heard his steel food bowl moving!!! Fricken birds are eating it as he just lays there watching them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Bloody hell, just got my hopes up because I heard his steel food bowl moving!!!Fricken birds are eating it as he just lays there watching them I'm sure they will but make sure the new vet considers looking for intestinal and stomach disorders. It sounds to me like there's more to this than depression. I hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raineth Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 crossing everything for Indie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 If he is doing zoomies, etc- then I suspect he has a medical problem ..and his not eating is not all pining.... Please get all teh tests you can... and I hope the vet hospital will give him some nourishment via whatever means they can! thinking of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julzjc Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 As for rabbit, Ill try find some, no idea where but I'll try source it. Not convinced he will eat it though. He has been offered it a long time ago and wouldnt have anything to do with it. Same with liver, wont have anything to do with raw liver or any liver treat/taste. I had to go tend to a field mouse on Sunday night that he had caught. Just kept taking it to his mat, letting it go, taking it to his mat, letting it go etc. It was wet with slobber, but went on to live up the other end of the garden. So much for the Sibe prey drive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julzjc Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 Bloody hell, just got my hopes up because I heard his steel food bowl moving!!!Fricken birds are eating it as he just lays there watching them I'm sure they will but make sure the new vet considers looking for intestinal and stomach disorders. It sounds to me like there's more to this than depression. I hope I'm wrong. Praying you are too, but my gut feeling isnt good either. Bah, now Im crying.....anyways, no point stressing till I see the vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julzjc Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 If he is doing zoomies, etc- then I suspect he has a medical problem ..and his not eating is not all pining.... Please get all teh tests you can... and I hope the vet hospital will give him some nourishment via whatever means they can!thinking of you I know Im going to a good vet but any ideas on what tests I should ask about in particular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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