Kirislin Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Steve Irwin would be turning over in his grave if he knew that poor creature was named after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 the really sad thing is the only laws preventing her from doing this are council by laws. If she pays the $50k, she can do whatever she wants with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agility Dogs Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 He is totally paralysed.ETA: If my dog was paralysed from the neck down and could never walk, run, do zoomies, and couldn't even go to the toilet I'd send him over the rainbow bridge - nicest thing to do IMO. I'd afford the kangaroo the same care. ABSOLUTELY. IMO if an animal (and that includes my dogs) cannot live a NORMAL healthy, pain free life (and being carried everywhere or being dependent on an aparatus for motion) then the kindest thing is to give them their wings. They cannot rationalise, but cannot understand, in the wild this animal would not survive for good reason. I made a similar decision for one of my pups when the vets told me that we could operate, but they could not give any indication as to how successful the operation would. RIP little man, I know you are in a more comfortable place. I know there are always exceptions and considerations, but as a general rule I go with the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agility Dogs Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 And, for the record, if I was ever to be paralysed from the neck down, and totally dependent , I would hope someone would do me the kindness of assisting with my euthanasia. Again - spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly_Louise Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I'm horrified. I was one who was for keeping the pups with no front legs alive (within reason and provided they had appropriate carers to provide for their special needs)... but I draw the line on this one. Not a wild animal - with instincts that go against what it currently happening. They do not think the same way we, or other domesticated animals would... How does she know he is excited... maybe he's terrified??? No, I think it's cruel... and while I think she probably has a good heart and her intentions are good, it's just not right - in any way, shape for form. If he has to be kept alive for whatever reason - then do so in an appropriate environment with carers who will treat him as a kangaroo - where he has interactions with other kangaroos, and a little bit of dignity at least... not dressed in a tuxedo and treated like a baby. I'm just horrified, and deeply saddened that this is allowed - at any cost. And now, to have to be restrained/caged etc as well as all the other ridiculous goings on. What kind of life is that for a proud roo? I guess at least he is loved (in a freaky way)... that's one positive, even if the kindness is killing him... I hope someone can help this lady see sense soon, maybe get her the right kind of help she needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal House Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Is there any way we can start a petition about this? I'm guessing someone with the appropriate qualifications (Casowner? ) would be a good one to provide the info on how wrong this is for the animal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 The video of her saying that he won't grow is disturbing, my BIL breeds albino red kangaroos and as part of a rescue program I took in a couple of hand reared euros and he took in desexed red male kangaroos. Some of these roos are very large and were desexed as babies. Male kangaroos do not stop growing until they die, desexing them may have some impact but it certainly will not stop Irwin from getting any bigger than he is now. This picture is of my two rescue Euros at the front. Kayla the small one is a doe and Tyson is a desexed male and he is much bigger than the undesexed female. Caz the best way to get publicity for this would be for people to lobby Australia Zoo to make a statement as the kangaroo has been named after Steve Irwin, if they believe that it is wrong a public statement would get coverage. Irwin Video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 IF this boy does have a chance at all of recovering some movement /independence, he should be with a zoo or private carer, and be treated and respected for what he is . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripley Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 (edited) There is a video of him from a US news report. In it, he is carried around like a helpless baby. Visits of him to the nursing home in this too http://arbroath.blogspot.com/2011/04/woman...ion-fights.html OMG I think I spotted baby talc next to his blue rug Edited April 22, 2011 by Ripley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 The poor bastard, he's not a "therapy " anything, he's an animal that should either be euth'd ( my preference ) or in the care of Marsupial experts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyd Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 The poor bastard, he's not a "therapy " anything, he's an animal that should either be euth'd ( my preference ) or in the care of Marsupial experts. x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 You may be interested to read this ... LINK to Scribblygum forum , esp. the comments from "joey" who has been a wildlife rehabber for many many years, and who lives with several Kangaroos /wombats etc at her house. She knows just about every aspect of macropod health & behaviour ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 that video is really sad. Pers, Joey on that forum is right ... just wait until he's an adult. Really pathetic to watch her attach her own mental health onto the life of a creature. That's pure selfishness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Unfortunately once someone has reached that level of associating the animal as her child no rational arguments will work. Unless there is intervention to either remove the animal or enforce her to change her treatment of him there will only be a decline in his environmental enrivhment/health and possibly her mental stability especially if something goes wrong with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 and possibly her mental stability especially if something goes wrong with him yes She may be plunged even lower into depression , I would think. It is very sad for lots of reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartok Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Regardless if you agree with it or not http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/worl...0-1226042334022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 That has just made me feel physically ill. That poor creature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 However, wildlife experts said dressing a paralysed animal and treating it like a human was "totally inappropriate". That about sums up how I feel about it. Quite a while back, the kangaroos at Launceston's City Park were returned to the wild when the council became aware of how much damage was being done to the animals by visitors feeding them bread. And that was just bread, I can't think of any justification for feeding a wild animal on human junk food. To me, really caring the animal would entail trying to as closely replicate its natural existance as possible (provided it was healthy enough to have a decent quality of life and actually returning it to the wild was not an option), not turning it into some kind of huge, wrong, furry, obese baby. What a nutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feather Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) That woman is very, very sick. Her therapist recommended she start volunteering at the animal shelter - where the hell is that therapist now? Surely anyone with the slightest grip on reality can see that dressing a kangaroo in clothes and thinking of it and treating it as her son is not the behaviour of any normal or rational human being. As for the poor roo, I can only hope animal welfare advocates manage to intervene for him. There are just so many things wrong with his living situation, it's hard to know where to start (beyond getting him off crazy lady). Edited May 9, 2011 by Feather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartok Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 That woman is very, very sick. Her therapist recommended she start volunteering at the animal shelter - where the hell is that therapist now? Surely anyone with the slightest grip on reality can see that dressing a kangaroo in clothes and thinking of it and treating it as her son is not the behaviour of any normal or rational human being. As for the poor roo, I can only hope animal welfare advocates manage to intervene for him. There are just so many things wrong with his living situation, it's hard to know where to start (beyond getting him off crazy lady). I think dressing dogs and cats in clothes is just as moronic as well as carrying dogs in handbags. So makes for alot of crazy ppl in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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