budgiew Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 (edited) Hello,I'm fairly new to posting so if this is the wrong place for this topic let me know. Have short listed curly coated retriever as a breed for my next dog.They must be rare because i have only seen one .I live outer east of Melbourne . Have emailed a breeder with questions about them but did not get a reply.I would like to see one and test if i would be allergic as i am to some breeds as i have read they can be suitable for allergic people like a poodle.As much as i like poodles ,the red standards are great,,i want a dog with less coat clipping. Are they suitable as a family pet? Any information about them would be appreciated .thanks. Edited April 18, 2011 by budgiew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raineth Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 my pup did puppy classes with one, it was older. It had a really nice temperament and its owners were really really happy with it. There are 13 Curly coat breeders listed on DOL. Sometimes its better to ring them rather than email. I think it would be worthwhile to ring even the ones in other states as they may have sold a puppy living in you area that you could meet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Most breeders are probably in Sydney for the royal & they had there Curly champ show on the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I know several. Lovely dogs- very cute looking but i think they do shed? Their coat is different to a poodle so it would be wise to spend some time with one before you commit just to make sure you're not allergic. They are more reserved than the labrador and golden retrievers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 (edited) Curlies are one breed I looked at getting years ago and then I minded one for a friend for 6 months. I don't find them reserved but they are much more active than Labs and Goldies. The one I minded was a good match energy wise for my Border Collie. They are very full on, active working dogs and they really do need access to water on a regular basis to be happy. That is why I didn't get one as I am not really a fan of water activities. The coats are very easy to look after with a weekly brush, occassional trim and you always let them dry naturally after a bath or swim, so no dryer needed. Edited April 18, 2011 by dancinbcs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Does anyone know if they shed? Interesting that you find them more energetic dancinbcs, as I have always found them to be much more relaxed and not as bouncy as a labrador at least. Were the ones you have seen working line, because i've heard they are way more full on than your show-bred or pet curly coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgiew Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Curlies are one breed I looked at getting years ago and then I minded one for a friend for 6 months. I don't find them reserved but they are much more active than Labs and Goldies. The one I minded was a good match energy wise for my Border Collie. They are very full on, active working dogs and they really do need access to water on a regular basis to be happy. That is why I didn't get one as I am not really a fan of water activities. The coats are very easy to look after with a weekly brush, occassional trim and you always let them dry naturally after a bath or swim, so no dryer needed. Yes energy level is a consideration as i'm 54 this year.Short periods of active would be ok .Looked after a Kelpie for a day and he wore me out.Wonder if some are less active than others.Have heard they are an adaptable breed.Once saw one on rescue site interstate,it had been left there cos the owner said it would not go in the water.Lame excuse.Thanks to all . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I had a curly coat when my boys were young. Not sure about the allergy thing but she didn't shed much - nothing like a lab! She was very strong and quite strong willed. She was very intelligent but not a pliable as a lab. She was fantactic with my young boys but could accidentally knock them over. She was not at all reserved and nothing fazed her. Yes she would swim ALL day and I'm sure she could sniff out water Altogether a beautiful dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgiew Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Are dogs allowed to swim in local lakes or are there special places to take dogs to swim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormie Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 My Boss's last dog was a Curly Coat. We were talking about her just the other day actually and he said she shed quite a bit. But she was a really lovely girl with a great temperament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgiew Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Moderate shedding is ok .Just don;t like hair in my tea.I think they might be seasonal shedders. some People think low shed means low allergy ,With me it's its the strong doggy smell that makes me allergic, Our last dog was from a pound she was a wolfhound x bull terrier . At 10 months she was smooth coated at 3 years she was rather shaggy and seasonal light shedder. However she was a clean smelling dog and i only reacted to her if she was overdue for a bath.Will need to spend time with some curlys to see if i react,After easter i will call some breeders to see if i can find one local to see.Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Does anyone know if they shed?Interesting that you find them more energetic dancinbcs, as I have always found them to be much more relaxed and not as bouncy as a labrador at least. Were the ones you have seen working line, because i've heard they are way more full on than your show-bred or pet curly coat. I don't remember the one I had shedding much if at all. She did grow some longer curls that sun bleached and needed to be trimmed. She was just a pet that had lived on a farm and she could lie around if there was nothing happening or run like the wind when let go in the park. In the really hot weather I ran the dogs at night and would lose sight of the curly because she had no white markings like the BC. One call would bring her thundering back through the dark, more often then not to send me flying because I didn't see her coming. But she had a great recall. Oh, and she could also hop a 6' fence in the blink of an eye but never ran away. The Curly breeder I went to, looking for a show puppy before that, used to both show her dogs and work them in the field. This was before I got my first Border 28 years ago and at that time most breeds, including BCs did not have any division between show and working lines. My first BC bitch was sibling to 8 champions from 4 litters and the rest of those litters all went onto farms as full time working dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clover Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 They are probably the only Retriever i would ever consider owning :D. Gorgeous dogs, and the ones i have come across dont seem to be so in your face like Labradors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 In my experience, knowing them from working and show lines, they are less in your face then a lab or flat coat, don't tend to jump about to get your attention so in that respect they are more reserved. When they are changing coats, just running your hand along the curls will get out a lot of coat, but ordinarily not much comes out, although they do need trimming sometimes (make sure it is done with scissors and you don't use a groomer to shave the dog as it will take a loooonnnggg time for the coat to recover). As a gundog breed they enjoy exercise (1 or so hours daily off lead running/swimming). They seem more independent in their thinking then the other retrievers, they seem to need to know why they should be working for you but with the right training are very biddable. HD and ED can be a problem for the breed, so make sure parents are scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee lee Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 One lives locally- he is huge! Much bigger than my Goldie. Quite gorgeous and not overly reserved. Its owners are around late 50's and live in the inner city, with only access to offlead parks, so I'd imagine the activity levels could be fine for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgiew Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 (edited) One lives locally- he is huge! Much bigger than my Goldie. Quite gorgeous and not overly reserved.Its owners are around late 50's and live in the inner city, with only access to offlead parks, so I'd imagine the activity levels could be fine for you. Our block is just under half an acre .there is a dog park 10 minutes away so dog would get minimum 1or 2 hours a day running around.Would be getting a female,they are a bit smaller than the males.Need to look at fence heights and access to water play.I dont go out to work so would like the dog to be inside with me as well.We are 15 minute walk to dog training school Alpha .i thinks the name. Thankyou. Edited April 18, 2011 by budgiew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemymutts Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I used to have a CCR x BC & only had to have him PTS at the start of this year due to old age & the problems that come along with it. He's the one in my pic. Kaspa was the most loving & loyal dog I think I will ever own. Always energetic & willing to learn, he LOVED water but had small ear canals so he had a full ear resection (?) done to one ear. He did shed a fair bit of hair but it always clumped into a ball making it easier to clean up. I know he wasn't a purebred CCR but he looked like one but his curls weren't as tight. They do need lots of exercise & training but I think they are great dogs, not sure if I would own one again as I think it would remind me too much of him but I do hope you find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgiew Posted April 19, 2011 Author Share Posted April 19, 2011 (edited) I used to have a CCR x BC & only had to have him PTS at the start of this year due to old age & the problems that come along with it.He's the one in my pic. Kaspa was the most loving & loyal dog I think I will ever own. Always energetic & willing to learn, he LOVED water but had small ear canals so he had a full ear resection (?) done to one ear. He did shed a fair bit of hair but it always clumped into a ball making it easier to clean up. I know he wasn't a purebred CCR but he looked like one but his curls weren't as tight. They do need lots of exercise & training but I think they are great dogs, not sure if I would own one again as I think it would remind me too much of him but I do hope you find one. Hello,I;m sorry about Kaspa.Our dog died 3 years ago and i still miss her every day.She was on death row at the pound only because they said she was passed over because she was ugly ,but we thaught she was great Looked like a jackel with big ears.Later she looked more wolfhound as she aged.From what i've read of the culys temperament its very similar to our late Pippa dog.Haven't had a dog that liked swimming before so i guess i would need to check the ears quite often.Have been reading and research many dog breeds over the last 2 years.I have learned a lot from just reading this forum.Now i have a short list so i can start to look at some dogs and see how that goes.Our Pippa was the best dog for our family, every dog is unique and you can never replace them.Thankyou. Edited April 19, 2011 by budgiew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudel Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 My family owned a curly, he was a great dog. We are looking at getting one ourselves at the moment. Our curly loved a swim, but hated our pool. We used to take him to the local lakes for a paddle. He shed a bit (more than my standard poodle, but less than my mastiff/great dane cross). He was a leaner when he wanted attention. Very loving but happy just to be near, not necessarily on you. He had a great grin. Very gentle. They are a big dog though, our boy was 45kgs. He lived to 14. \ My mother had a curly growing up, loved him to bits and it took her about 30 years to get to the stage she could own another. Both curlies were very special dogs. I cannot wait to own another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgiew Posted April 19, 2011 Author Share Posted April 19, 2011 My family owned a curly, he was a great dog. We are looking at getting one ourselves at the moment. Our curly loved a swim, but hated our pool. We used to take him to the local lakes for a paddle. He shed a bit (more than my standard poodle, but less than my mastiff/great dane cross). He was a leaner when he wanted attention. Very loving but happy just to be near, not necessarily on you. He had a great grin. Very gentle. They are a big dog though, our boy was 45kgs. He lived to 14. \My mother had a curly growing up, loved him to bits and it took her about 30 years to get to the stage she could own another. Both curlies were very special dogs. I cannot wait to own another. Hello.Pudel. Our Pippa dog weighed 34 kgs.and was 20 inches at the shoulder.Small for a wolfhound x.Good luck with your next curly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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