Repricing Puppies

[Souff]

Most people don't expect to make a profit from a hobby. Where is the profit in horse riding, scrapbooking, netball, bushwalking, chess?

:D

Rather odd comparisons.

I always thought you have to sell something before you could make a profit, unless you go professional of course in such activities.

[moosmum]

I would also be happy to pay more for a pup that was considered extra good by a breeder,if they have a reputation to back their opinionion.

I do believe tho' that in guardian breeds at least,you can get a pretty good idea if a pup will measure up or not.Not fool proof ,and maybe some will dissagree with my personal pick,but you can tell a lot about dominance,nerve, some drives and basic personality.There will be some who clearly won't measure up to serious work.

If I value what a a breeder is working to produce and their methods are proving effective, I would happily pay more for the pups showing best potential for the job.

Edited April 15, 2011 by moosmum

[kirst_goldens]

there was a recent discussion re puppy prices in a group for golden breeders i am in... we found some breeders were charging up to 2000 for a pet :D and the puppy buyers brought it from them on the assumption of well if it costs more its better cause u get what u pay for... these breeders with highly inflated prices were not competitors in the ring but some i believe did obedience and retrieving? thought not all.. some were just breeders cause they like it..

I know many breeders who are some of the best in the country charging MUCH less then this and IMHO their pups would be of a better quality...

But its all up to the breeders decision... i dont think show and pet pups should be charged differently as u are stating this pup is suitable for show.. adn then if it falls through ur in trouble i also dont think that an older puppy/young adult should be priced any different.. in actual fact most of the time these older pups have had more training and socialisation then the 8 week old it once was sold as...

[Jumabaar]

I plan on selling my show pups for more, but that has more to do with people buying 'breeding rights' rather than the quality of the puppy. So people who have paid for limited register have not payed for breeding rights, so I can theoretically do something if they try to breed with a pet puppy.

Just something interesting. I was told today that my pups were to expensive as they were just wanted a 'pet'. And this is a sentiment I have heard many times. They might be too expensive for their budget, but its not because they are pet quality, it is because they simply do not put the same value on having a well bred pup that is already toilet and crate trained, compared to a cheaper puppy that MAY have sat out in a shed and not had the same contact and training. I think all my pups have exceptional qualities- but they will only be exceptional for the right family so they all should cost the same amount because if they go to the right homes they are all worth the same.

I had someone comment that they could get a fully trained failed police dog for $1000, but that it wasn't worth the money. They should just pick up a pound dog for $50. I asked about their situation- they didn't have time for training, but expected the dog to behave. To me it would make sense to pay the extra money to get a dog that fits their requirements, than one because it is cheap...... :D

ETA- why shouldn't a WELL BRED pup cost $2000 of any breed? It comes down to supply and demand I guess, but I dont think that is an unreasonable price- certainly wouldn't cover costs but I cant understand why puppies have to be cheap???

Edited April 15, 2011 by ~Woofen~

[Elenbah]

I plan on selling my show pups for more, but that has more to do with people buying 'breeding rights' rather than the quality of the puppy. So people who have paid for limited register have not payed for breeding rights, so I can theoretically do something if they try to breed with a pet puppy.

Just something interesting. I was told today that my pups were to expensive as they were just wanted a 'pet'. And this is a sentiment I have heard many times. They might be too expensive for their budget, but its not because they are pet quality, it is because they simply do not put the same value on having a well bred pup that is already toilet and crate trained, compared to a cheaper puppy that MAY have sat out in a shed and not had the same contact and training. I think all my pups have exceptional qualities- but they will only be exceptional for the right family so they all should cost the same amount because if they go to the right homes they are all worth the same.

I had someone comment that they could get a fully trained failed police dog for $1000, but that it wasn't worth the money. They should just pick up a pound dog for $50. I asked about their situation- they didn't have time for training, but expected the dog to behave. To me it would make sense to pay the extra money to get a dog that fits their requirements, than one because it is cheap...... :D

ETA- why shouldn't a WELL BRED pup cost $2000 of any breed? It comes down to supply and demand I guess, but I dont think that is an unreasonable price- certainly wouldn't cover costs but I cant understand why puppies have to be cheap???

And these same people would probably walk into a store and pay $1500 to $2000 for a new LCD or Plasma TV with it's 12 month warranty, and not bat an eye lid.!

[Sayreovi]

I had someone comment that they could get a fully trained failed police dog for $1000

Really? That's pretty cool.

A very interesting thread, I've never really thought about puppy prices but will have to one day in the future. Even though there are only a dozen Toller breeders and there isn't many litters a year, the prices aren't as high as some more common breeds and there is demand for them as well. Generally they range from $1000 to $2000. Nearly all have imported a dog and the ones that haven't compete in various sports (some do both), so I doubt any would make a profit if they charged higher anyway

Edited April 15, 2011 by tollersowned

[sandgrubber]

As a breeder who might be buying, I'd be willing to pay twice as much for a pup with excellent prospects than for a pup with fair prospects. . . .but pedigree is important here, and most litters have the same pedigrees.

As a breeder who has sold mostly pets and who has become pretty cynical about the 'pick' at 8 weeks, staying 'pick' to 14 months, I practice the KISS strategy . . . all pups the same price . . . in my breed, girls are more favored than boys, so I charge a little more for girls. If someone offered me some sort of premium for 'pick' I'd look at the offer.

Edited April 15, 2011 by sandgrubber