pandypam Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) target: 5000 signature goal: 1,000 signatures: 0 Sorry, I hope the link works. DESEX NOW. We in animal rescue are sick and tired of the never ending tide of unwanted/homeless pets. We smaller groups are sick and tired of doing what the RSPCA should be doing. The RSPCA is the prime animal welfare org in this country and its their job, in fact they exist to stop animal cruelty, if the killing of over ( well over some say) 250.000 dogs and cats each year isnt cruelty, then what is?. The quickest way to cut the kill rates is to have a massive desexing program NOW. With huge public donations each year, why isnt it being done NOW. This is in no way directed at the many people who do the ground work for the RSPCA. http://apps.facebook.com/petitions/1/rspca...s-desexing-now/ Edited April 5, 2011 by pandypam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Please provide evidence that the quickest way to cut kill rates is to have a massive desexing program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Please provide evidence that the quickest way to cut kill rates is to have a massive desexing program. what she said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 target: 5000 signature goal: 1,000 signatures: 0 Sorry, I hope the link works. DESEX NOW. We in animal rescue are sick and tired of the never ending tide of unwanted/homeless pets. We smaller groups are sick and tired of doing what the RSPCA should be doing. The RSPCA is the prime animal welfare org in this country and its their job, in fact they exist to stop animal cruelty, if the killing of over ( well over some say) 250.000 dogs and cats each year isnt cruelty, then what is?. The quickest way to cut the kill rates is to have a massive desexing program NOW.With huge public donations each year, why isnt it being done NOW. This is in no way directed at the many people who do the ground work for the RSPCA. http://apps.facebook.com/petitions/1/rspca...s-desexing-now/ Its also the quickest way to ensure that pet dogs will be extinct in the not too distant future. I wonder which dogs are to be targetted by the requested campaign and how old they will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxx'sBuddy Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 What about the health and welfare of the dogs? Early desexing is not always the best health choice for a puppy/dog, especially larger breeds. I too would like to see the proof that this strategy would do what is claimed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 What if I don't want to desex my dog, my property ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) I'm a little bit confused here.. Is the point of this petition to give the RSPCA the power to enforce the desexing of pets? I'm not sure about other states but down here, nothing gets released from their shelters entire (unless it's being claimed back by owners) so.. this would have zero effect on anything. It's not that I don't trust the RSPCA (*cough*), I can just see huge potential for problems when deciding what can remain entire and what can't (as far as existing pets and what-have-you). Edited to clarify something Re-edited to clarify a bit more. Edited April 5, 2011 by Hardy's Angel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjay Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 need to educate owners, instead of mass desexing, +1 to not desex early state of dogs life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxx'sBuddy Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 What if I don't want to desex my dog, my property ? x2. My dog, my property and, in consultation with my vet, I want to make those decisions and make them taking into account my individual dogs needs not just process my dog like she is one of a crowd with the same needs as other dogs :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 X3 Interested as how this would help. Usually things like this only make things aharder for those that do do the right things anyway. My dogs are entire and they will be until I decide to desex them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john.davey.1960 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Animal rights groups equate pet ownership to slavery. They support BSL and MSN as weapons to achieve the elimination of family pets. The No Kill Movement is growing in the US. Pity it hasn't taken hold here, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liath Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Who decides who gets desexed? My puppy is shown..not to be desexed until she either shows a lack of interest or she is to old. As far as I am aware, dogs are not adopted from the RSPCA unless they are desexed first. So how does this campaign aimed at the RSPCA work then? Scary thought that we can told to desex out dog no matter what..wouldnt take long for there to be no dogs in Australia! Maybe thats what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandypam Posted April 5, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 Bloody hell, This is about the killing of unwanted animals!!, extinct????, hello. GOBSMACKED :p sign or dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisovar Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 How does mass desexing stop the killing of unwanted animals. The majority of animals that are surrendered to the pound are there because they did not meet the expectations of the owner (unrealistic or not) or because they are seen as disposable. If owners researched and chose more suitable animals or accepted that they simply were not in a position to own a pet then there would be less animals destroyed. Mass desexing does not stop stupidity, ignorance or lack of knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMolly Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I am all for desexing of pets. I think what we have to remember is that most of us here on DOL are responsible pet owners and don't allow our pets to breed will nilly because we are educated on being a responsible pet owner.. I think that desexing should be made cheaper for those that can not afford it as for them it is very simple to surrender unwanted kittens and pups to pounds and shelters and I agree that desexing animals would reduce the number of animals being euthanised every year, especially with regards to kittens.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMolly Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 How does mass desexing stop the killing of unwanted animals.The majority of animals that are surrendered to the pound are there because they did not meet the expectations of the owner (unrealistic or not) or because they are seen as disposable. If owners researched and chose more suitable animals or accepted that they simply were not in a position to own a pet then there would be less animals destroyed. Mass desexing does not stop stupidity, ignorance or lack of knowledge. That might be why most dogs are surrendered but this is not the case for surrendered cats and kittens.. I have two mum cats here and they have 11 kittens between them now if they were not fostered then that would be at least 11 kittens that would have been euthansied and maybe the two mum cats as well.. Multipule that with the amount of kittens and pregnant cats that end up in pounds and shelters every year and you would have thousands and thousands of cats and kittens being euthanised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Gifts Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I agree with the sentiment behind this and feel there has to be a positive outcome for rescue and a reduction in the number of healthy rehomable animals pts if more animals were desexed. The animals I am talking about are those where the owners can't or wont protect them from breeding and can't or wont responsibly raise and rehome a litter those pets might 'accidentally' have. So if by 'mass desexing' it means taking 'free or very cheap desexing to the masses' then I support it. I'd actually like to see all the camp dogs in remote communities desexed under a program like this. I don't have any stats for animals but if the human life expectancy in these communities is low (which is a fact from health reports) then it is likely to be reflected in the camp dogs stats as well. I also support a responsible owner determining the age of desexing or whether they even wish to desex. But a responsible owner would probably be able to fund their own desexing and not need a free or cheap program anyway. I know I'd prefer to pay so I can choose the vet who does the surgery. I don't think a one size fits all approach ever works for any problem and certainly support any org, including the RSPCA educating 'the masses' about responsible pet ownership at its most basic level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staranais Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 It is worryingly vague. Are they talking about making desexing more affordable for low income families, e.g. the SPCA giving vouchers for free or cheap desexing to low income owners? That's a good idea. Or are they more talking about the SPCA somehow making people spay their dogs? I don't like that at all. And I don't think the SPCA should have any more power than they already do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are You Serious Jo Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I'd like to see the rspca offer discount desexing, so if that is what this is about them ok. But it's a bit here or there, more details needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 The petition seems to be asking the RS to dig into their savings and run a large worthwhile desexing program. Not force anyone to desex, or stop anyone breeding. They have the funds, they really should be running more advertised voluntary neuter programs especially in the lower socioeconomic areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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