Vickie Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) I've just set up a big loop & got the video ready. Jump, AF, jump, seesaw, tunnel, jump, jump Plan is to run it with each dog once then run it another 6 times with each dog, rewarding heavily with food on AF & SS then run it again & compare the times on the first runs to the times on the last run. Tomorrow, I will run it in the opposite direction, but reward with tug instead of food & again compare the times. Lol, what a boring life I must lead, but I love doing stuff like this. Sometimes it tells me nothing...sometimes it tells me lots! Often being able to measure something makes a difference in your perception of it. Hopefully this will be a "lots" experience. Edited March 25, 2011 by Vickie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheena Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Can we see the video...pleeeease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickie Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 I don't see why not...if you really want to the middle might be a bit tedious, but I'll try to post the first & last ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agility Dogs Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Can't wait to see the results! One little thing - don't forget to turn the see saw around for your reversed runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickie Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 One little thing - don't forget to turn the see saw around for your reversed runs. I'll try to remember that! Should be extra interesting since they BOTH clocked exactly 11.2 seconds on their first run, will make it easy to compare results & progress. The video is pretty hard to see as I had to move it back to fit it all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickie Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Just ran each 3 times in a row with food rewards & have already learnt something huge! I AM SO UNFIT!!!! Both are slower Getting onto position on their contacts with food, maybe bc I have never trained contacts with food? Or because I am decellerating to deliver it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agility Dogs Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Just ran each 3 times in a row with food rewards & have already learnt something huge!I AM SO UNFIT!!!! Both are slower Getting onto position on their contacts with food, maybe bc I have never trained contacts with food? Or because I am decellerating to deliver it interesting. I find that when I drill or run my dogs for a while on contacts that happens - I don't know why, but for some reason it seems to confuse them. (not suggesting that you are drilling, but it is the best comparison I had.) They shouldn't really react to your decelleration though, in theory the decel should tell them something is going to happen after the obstacle, not at the end of it. (assuming independent contacts.) Will look forward to hearing if they speed back up once food is out of the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickie Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 I need to get it up on my computer to time it accurately, but timing it on the video, it looks like Trim was a whole second faster on her last run & Shine stayed about the same as she did on the first run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickie Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 I did not time well looking at the VCR final times were Trim 1st - 10.5 seconds last - 9.7 seconds Shine 1st - 11.2 seconds last - 11.2 seconds am trying to load video but keeps crashing on YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agility Dogs Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I did not time well looking at the VCRfinal times were Trim 1st - 10.5 seconds last - 9.7 seconds Shine 1st - 11.2 seconds last - 11.2 seconds am trying to load video but keeps crashing on YouTube What a great idea. Were the results what you expected from the different dogs? Also - probably a stupid question, but were the dogs fully warmed up before the first run? I only ask this because I have a mate who is a pro cyclist who in his younger days lost a time trial by a couple of seconds and when he and his coach worked it back his warm up was not as good as it could have been. I always wonder whether my dogs are warm enough before they compete. AND - what do you think is a 'real' difference in times. eg: .1 or .2 is probably a bit neither here nor there, but almost as second seems significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickie Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) yes, they were warmed up first. Not sure what I was expecting I did expect Trim to get faster with repetition as that's just the sort of dog she is. Totally the opposite to a dog who slows down with drilling...she gets faster. Shine seems a bit flat overall today so not sure what her numbers mean. here's an interesting point. I just looked at Trim's part from where she first touched the AF till the SS banged. Her 2nd run was 1.1 seconds faster over this part so the contacts are definitely where she made the time up. One second is significant enough over only 8 obstacles, but enormously significant over only 3 obstacles! Edited March 25, 2011 by Vickie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickie Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) Trims first & last runs and Shine's Edited March 25, 2011 by Vickie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheena Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I love the way you set her up at the start line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dxenion Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 To identify the exact time differences between the first and last runs, you could ghost one video on top of the other and then watch the replay. You would then instantly be able to see where the differences are. It's sort of like what the motor sport shows do to emphasis the differences in lines that drivers take. If you don't have an editing program that can do this, feel free to PM me and I'll have a go at it on the program I have here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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