More Questions About My Foster Boy - Huey!

[mita]

truth is, it is a hideous illness with a long shelf life in soil and dogs are moved and taken into the public domain all the time who are not vaccinated.

Yes, this was in my first 'lesson' on rescue, too. Unvaccinated dogs from all sources are included in the risk. Such as surrendered dogs from owners who've neglected to vaccinate. And unvaccinated dogs are moved around & taken into the public domain all the time, as you say.

It was explained to me this is the reason that registered breeders are aware that parvo can be brought in via visitors' shoes. A good reason to be specially vigilant when they have litters.

Back to the need to be aware of disease risk wherever dogs are from. And the steps to minimise transmission, at the best.

[Kissindra]

I've had a request - I'll post all visible posts in this thread - had thought I got the only relevant ones - perhaps there are others I am unable to see but here is all in a row to satisfy the request

*name removed*

Hope the photoshoot went well, sorry *** didn't make it, ended up having the fatal extra b'day wine....:D plus had been battling father son dominance issues for most of the day and night with the boys. Ruffy decided he was going to bond with me from the get-go and refused to share me with Wolfie...finally have sorted things after much patience and determination..they gave up in the end and now are getting on well with eachother! Phew...they are sweet natured boys simply desperate to have a human or family of thier own after a lifetime of sharing and existing on scraps of love!!! Gooooood Boys! *patpathugs*

*Name removed 2* aaaah the demon "one too many glass"........

*name removed* ‎....Just one more..............next morning alarm went off...uh-oh..head says NO...Think I reached doggy overload after the boys silliness and settling in stage...I regret not going!

THE POST THAT WAS HERE HAS NOW BEEN DELETED ON THE PAGE - you can see what it was in the previous post by me.

*name removed*

For all those concerned, all dogs in my place ARE vaccinated. As a foster carer I made the choice to take in poundy's fully aware of the risks and have taken ALL necessary precautions. Whilst I appreciate the concerns of others, I am not ignorant of parvo risks. I care for both my animals and animals placed in my care as my own children. I weight up which dogs are needing care and make a decision based on my situation and the safety of all animals concerned.

*name removed* For those 'burning the candle at both ends'' quoting my posts elsewhere in other forums, please stop. My post has been taken out of context and utilised in a flaming session in what appears to be a number of disgruntled people whom have set... out to deliberatly antagonise people in here. As I said VERY CLEARLY, ALL vaccination work has been done on animals here. These dogs ARE in isolation/quarrantine. As part of the fostering agreement with *** you must be able to make yourself available to transport animals to thier vet appointments. If you wish to pick up a dog from the pound then take them directly to the vet, which you should do, you must make yourself available to do so. There is a list provided of ****vets provided. If you are unable to do so but wish to take a poundy in, or feel its 'hours away'' then YOU must clearly communicate this to *** and arrangements can be made, there is a network of caring people who only want whats best for the dogs. IF you can provide a SAFE environment for a foster dog an element of trust is given that this IS the case, then you are considered suitable. If you are simply getting involved, caught up in the heat of the moment, perhaps not disclosing information, and not being able to provide the care these innocents need, then do not foster. It is NOT like buying a pup from a petshop. A solution WILL be found for the particular needs of a dog, do not feel pressured into anything. If you can't open up your heart and home in a SAFE fashion, then don't. The reality is dogs may be put to sleep if not enough foster carers are found, but the risks *** have encountered are NO different to ANY other rescue organisiations. The difference here is *** is pro-active and no kill. This does not mean EVERY SINGLE DOG CAN BE SAVED, and not all are. Its heartbreaking. I personally sprung a dog from willawong, and it was delivered to another rescue org, at the agreement and arrangement of the person from thier org. The sheer volume of dogs that have been saved is resulting in statistical possibilities becoming a reality. The difference here is *** are being very open about the activities and outcome via facebook. The result is increased public awareness and resulting action, dogs are being saved and this is the point of this org. Please cease personal attacks and sit back think about WHY dogs are being put to sleep for no other reason than being a disposable çommodity both in the breeding and selling and ultimately and very sadly in the rescue world. If you are so passionate about the welfare of poundies, the voiceless souls in all of this, then roll up your sleeves and divert your passion towards the problem, not a group trying as best they can to help. You can quote this candlelady, but please quote in FULL the WHOLE thread, but not in the context you placed it.

ETA - another post by *name removed* faithfully reposted

I would also like to add...yes candlelady you may cut and paste this too if you wish, but please IN FULL. The day I decided to foster dogs I had a panic attack at 3am, messaged ***, said i would pick them up but I was SCARED, I didn't want to do it, I couldn't, i knew ALLLLL about parvo, temprement problems (36yrs of dog breeding experience) would I bring disease in, would the dogs be bigger than in the photo's, would they have behavioural issues, would they fear bite, would I be stuck with the dog for 6months or longer with no rehoming options or exit caluses, would they maul my dogs, would i have to pay for injuries sustained by a poundy, would I bring parvo in as I intended taking on a new baby in the future, the next dog would be a resue dog but a puppy as I had already gone down the rspca path and ended up with a dog that was completely different in a shelter than in a home setting. If I brought parvo in, I would not be able to do that. If I wanted to take on a intensive care litter abandoned too early, I would not be able to as I wanted...so many worries. *** said it was all fine, my choice she understood, arrangements were made to rehouse immediately. In the end when I picked up Jazz and Judge as my first ever poundie springs, it all made sense, they wer so scared, but such lovely dogs, why are people throwing these guys away I do not know, Judge went on to the perfect carer and I kept jazz on. So glad I did,I found my greybabies and unless the new boys end up showing parvo signs (vet said highly unlikely), I know what I can offer to ***, and if I end up with a parvo dog at any stage in the future, I will still foster, but unvaccinated pups etc will no longer be able to be brought into this house. It's a risk, but the happiness the new owners of the foster dogs outweigh my selfish desires....freaking don't let these guys be put down, if there is a way, then go for it! Stop badmouthing ***, they are not idiots, they have YEARS of experience, research your options (as I did) ask questions (as I did)....then put your hand up to foster...SIMPLE...it's all for the dogs..the victims in all of this! *** Foster carers, you know what you can and need to do, chin up, lets go get em! xox *

so - as you can see, your posts re a hangover didn't seem to have relevance and so I skipped them, they certainly do not appear to add any context to what i did post that i can see but as per your request - here they are, posted faithfully and completely as they appear to me on the page(bar name removal) - if moderators of the group have deleted other comments there is nothing I can do about that A personal attack is not questioning what is best practise. As I've mentioned, I am quoting public posts made on a public forum and I have gone to the added measure of removing any names which identify people.

I do not call deleting posts, banning anyone who asks a question and repeatedly not answering questions as being open and honest about what they are doing. Being passionate about rescue and animal welfare does not mean never asking questions - I will repost a musing of mine which might help you understand why people care enough to ask.

"No rescuer, rescue organisation, group or the individuals that make up those groups is confered a solid gold halo and a certificate of infaliability by virtue of the fact that they help rescue dogs - when we stop evaluating, stop looking for ways in which to improve, stop questioning widely held beliefs and examining whether there is a factual basis for them, stop examining how ethical our actions are ect. we stop being effective instruments for change.

I have had my oppinions altered over time, I will no doubt have them altered in the future by people who know more than I do - I consider this a good thing. I am constantly surprised at how many people would rather hold on to beliefs that are disproven in a variety of ways. I am constantly surprised at how many people are unable to digest the notion that acknowledging that there is always room for improvement is not the same as attempting to work against a common goal!"

Since we are communicating - do you think it fair a first time foster carer was not told the risks and was not given the chance to evaluate what SHE wanted to do and what risk SHE was prepaired to take? Do you really think it is fair that nobody gave her support or offered help after the event? Can you see that having an 8 week old unvaccinated puppy in a public park is a risk? Would you take your own 8 week old pups to socialise in a public park with dogs not long out of a high risk environment like the pound?

does those years of experience involve being sacked from logan pound as I suspect it does? What you seem to not get is that posts are being deleted all over the shop where people ARE asking reasonable questions and people are being told they wont get answers from those involved - how is anyone to evaluate if they want to sign up to foster if they are not told what the group offers foster carers or how they opperate? Do you not realise that the people who have been asking questions were on the page BECAUSE they care about animal welfare and wanted to offer time/experience/foster/adopt but have found themselves unable to do so because anyone who asks a simple question and wants reassurance of what practises are in place is banned and has their comments removed?

Edited March 28, 2011 by Kissindra

[dogdaze]

I've had a request - I'll post all visible posts in this thread - had thought I got the only relevant ones - perhaps there are others I am unable to see but here is all in a row to satisfy the request

*name removed*

Hope the photoshoot went well, sorry *** didn't make it, ended up having the fatal extra b'day wine.... :laugh: plus had been battling father son dominance issues for most of the day and night with the boys. Ruffy decided he was going to bond with me from the get-go and refused to share me with Wolfie...finally have sorted things after much patience and determination..they gave up in the end and now are getting on well with eachother! Phew...they are sweet natured boys simply desperate to have a human or family of thier own after a lifetime of sharing and existing on scraps of love!!! Gooooood Boys! *patpathugs*

*Name removed 2* aaaah the demon "one too many glass"........

*name removed* ‎....Just one more..............next morning alarm went off...uh-oh..head says NO...Think I reached doggy overload after the boys silliness and settling in stage...I regret not going!

THE POST THAT WAS HERE HAS NOW BEEN DELETED ON THE PAGE - you can see what it was in the previous post by me.

*name removed*

For all those concerned, all dogs in my place ARE vaccinated. As a foster carer I made the choice to take in poundy's fully aware of the risks and have taken ALL necessary precautions. Whilst I appreciate the concerns of others, I am not ignorant of parvo risks. I care for both my animals and animals placed in my care as my own children. I weight up which dogs are needing care and make a decision based on my situation and the safety of all animals concerned.

*name removed* For those 'burning the candle at both ends'' quoting my posts elsewhere in other forums, please stop. My post has been taken out of context and utilised in a flaming session in what appears to be a number of disgruntled people whom have set... out to deliberatly antagonise people in here. As I said VERY CLEARLY, ALL vaccination work has been done on animals here. These dogs ARE in isolation/quarrantine. As part of the fostering agreement with *** you must be able to make yourself available to transport animals to thier vet appointments. If you wish to pick up a dog from the pound then take them directly to the vet, which you should do, you must make yourself available to do so. There is a list provided of ****vets provided. If you are unable to do so but wish to take a poundy in, or feel its 'hours away'' then YOU must clearly communicate this to *** and arrangements can be made, there is a network of caring people who only want whats best for the dogs. IF you can provide a SAFE environment for a foster dog an element of trust is given that this IS the case, then you are considered suitable. If you are simply getting involved, caught up in the heat of the moment, perhaps not disclosing information, and not being able to provide the care these innocents need, then do not foster. It is NOT like buying a pup from a petshop. A solution WILL be found for the particular needs of a dog, do not feel pressured into anything. If you can't open up your heart and home in a SAFE fashion, then don't. The reality is dogs may be put to sleep if not enough foster carers are found, but the risks *** have encountered are NO different to ANY other rescue organisiations. The difference here is *** is pro-active and no kill. This does not mean EVERY SINGLE DOG CAN BE SAVED, and not all are. Its heartbreaking. I personally sprung a dog from willawong, and it was delivered to another rescue org, at the agreement and arrangement of the person from thier org. The sheer volume of dogs that have been saved is resulting in statistical possibilities becoming a reality. The difference here is *** are being very open about the activities and outcome via facebook. The result is increased public awareness and resulting action, dogs are being saved and this is the point of this org. Please cease personal attacks and sit back think about WHY dogs are being put to sleep for no other reason than being a disposable çommodity both in the breeding and selling and ultimately and very sadly in the rescue world. If you are so passionate about the welfare of poundies, the voiceless souls in all of this, then roll up your sleeves and divert your passion towards the problem, not a group trying as best they can to help. You can quote this candlelady, but please quote in FULL the WHOLE thread, but not in the context you placed it.

so - as you can see, your posts re a hangover didn't seem to have relevance and so I skipped them, they certainly do not appear to add any context to what i did post that i can see but as per your request - here they are, posted faithfully and completely as they appear to me on the page(bar name removal) - if moderators of the group have deleted other comments there is nothing I can do about that :D A personal attack is not questioning what is best practise. As I've mentioned, I am quoting public posts made on a public forum and I have gone to the added measure of removing any names which identify people.

I do not call deleting posts, banning anyone who asks a question and repeatedly not answering questions as being open and honest about what they are doing. Being passionate about rescue and animal welfare does not mean never asking questions - I will repost a musing of mine which might help you understand why people care enough to ask.

"No rescuer, rescue organisation, group or the individuals that make up those groups is confered a solid gold halo and a certificate of infaliability by virtue of the fact that they help rescue dogs - when we stop evaluating, stop looking for ways in which to improve, stop questioning widely held beliefs and examining whether there is a factual basis for them, stop examining how ethical our actions are ect. we stop being effective instruments for change.

I have had my oppinions altered over time, I will no doubt have them altered in the future by people who know more than I do - I consider this a good thing. I am constantly surprised at how many people would rather hold on to beliefs that are disproven in a variety of ways. I am constantly surprised at how many people are unable to digest the notion that acknowledging that there is always room for improvement is not the same as attempting to work against a common goal!"

Hey Kissindra, as I said quote the whole thread in FULL, not add emoticons etc. You have no idea how much I have been doing in the past few months in realtion to dog resue, and in particular the last week, nor do you have any idea of who I am, my background etc. As I made it very clear you are welcome to cut and paste MY posts, but in full. I also made it clear I did not wish my posts to be taken out of context to be used as fuel for your personal discontent with being blocked on facebook for your antagonistic postings.

I do not understand the hatred and lack of focus on the issue at hand. I have spent a lifetime involved with the dogworld and for me it is way of giving back. Not all dogs at the pound are parvo infected writeoffs. Pound employees DO NOT enjoy euthenasing perfectly good dogs which have been processed and discarded. I am new to all of this and have had it explained that the rescue world is no different to the dog world whereby in many cases it is an ego driven twilight zone realm. Dogs take second place to status and heirachy etc....a pack of dogs in reality, same psychology, alpha fem, alpha male, offspring etc all aiming for 'top dog'status..*rolls eyes*

Again you are taking 'snippets' from facebook and turning it to your advantage in a hatefull campaign. Everyone has been openly invited to contact the group DIRECTLY. Instead you choose to cowardly attack a group you have NO idea about. Why are you not spamming other FB portals with queiries of thier methods? To me it is all begining to look like a monty python sketch in this forum.......how many dogs are you fostering this week? Money donated is one thing but hey it's the army of volunteers that make it all happen. There are more of us than you think. I shall depart by cut n pasting my final post.... peace be with you and remeber it's all for the dogs. xoxH

I would also like to add...yes candlelady you may cut and paste this too if you wish, but please IN FULL. The day I decided to foster dogs I had a panic attack at 3am, messaged xxx, said i would pick them up but I was SCARED, I didn't want ...to do it, I couldn't, i knew ALLLLL about parvo, temprement problems (36yrs of dog breeding experience) would I bring disease in, would the dogs be bigger than in the photo's, would they have behavioural issues, would they fear bite, would I be stuck with the dog for 6months or longer with no rehoming options or exit caluses, would they maul my dogs, would i have to pay for injuries sustained by a poundy, would I bring parvo in as I intended taking on a new baby in the future, the next dog would be a resue dog but a puppy as I had already gone down the rspca path and ended up with a dog that was completely different in a shelter than in a home setting. If I brought parvo in, I would not be able to do that. If I wanted to take on a intensive care litter abandoned too early, I would not be able to as I wanted...so many worries. xxx said it was all fine, my choice she understood, arrangements were made to rehouse immediately. In the end when I picked up xxx and xxxxx as my first ever poundie springs, it all made sense, they wer so scared, but such lovely dogs, why are people throwing these guys away I do not know, xxxxx went on to the perfect carer and I kept xxxx on. So glad I did,I found my xxxxxxxxxx and unless the new boys end up showing parvo signs (vet said highly unlikely), I know what I can offer to xxx, and if I end up with a parvo dog at any stage in the future, I will still foster, but unvaccinated pups etc will no longer be able to be brought into this house. It's a risk, but the happiness the new owners of the foster dogs outweigh my selfish desires....freaking don't let these guys be put down, if there is a way, then go for it! Stop badmouthing xxx, they are not idiots, they have YEARS of experience, research your options (as I did) ask questions (as I did)....then put your hand up to foster...SIMPLE...it's all for the dogs..the victims in all of this! xxx Foster carers, you know what you can and need to do, chin up, lets go get em! xox HSee more

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Edited March 28, 2011 by dogdaze

[LDH]

Alas, my singular post on the FB page for the rescue group was also promptly deleted and I was banned from the site. I didn't point fingers, or call anyone names, just questioned the wisdom in allowing an 8 week old puppy newly arrived from Sydney to attend a 'puppy day out' which was held in a public off leash area. Essentially, unless your comments are supportive of the rescue, you are wiped. The council has been notified and I am told signs have now been placed at this particular off leash park warning other attendees of the risk. I cringe though now thinking about all those other puppies (none of which I bet have undergone full vaccination schedules) that were at that park with the puppy in question, who later that afternoon tested positive to parvo. I understand complaints have also been made to the RSPCA.

[SueM]

Re the post a couple back still nothing was said hateful on either facebook page, yes I saw deleted ones also, its just concerned Experienced dog people worried that dogs are not being quarantined before going to public places. Oh and by the way Kissindra is an experienced foster carer she fostered dozens of dogs for me.

[Greytmate]

Hello Dogdaze.

Welcome to DOL. You might like to have a read in the Rescue Forum. There is lots of good info about quarantine there for you to read up on.

[poodlefan]

What an utter shambles. :D

Again the "parvo is everywhere" argument gets a good run. The fact that some folk don't vaccinate or exercise any sort of responsible dog ownership with regard to dog disease shouldn't be a justification for a rescue to do the same.

But once again, that's the line being trotted out.

Edited March 28, 2011 by poodlefan

[SueM]

Maybe they should delete the person giving away an unvaccinated undesexed dog on the site now geeeez louise

[dogdaze]

Hello Dogdaze.

Welcome to DOL. You might like to have a read in the Rescue Forum. There is lots of good info about quarantine there for you to read up on.

Thanks Greymate for the welcome would have been nicer if I had made my first posts in less unfortunate circumstances...I take it your grey fancier? I am now officially converted, what a beautiful breed....and YES they are like chips you cant have just one. After a childhood/teen years with affies, they are like affies with no hair! What a yummmy yuuuuuummmmmy breed! And yes I understand about quarantine....lifetime of being brought up in the kennel

Peeps, contact the org direct for queries, they honestly only have the best of intentions. If you have a suggestions or ideas, all is taken onboard. There is an explaination for everything.. this group is simply trying to help out. By entering into or trying to start online flamewars with gentle souled people defeats the whole purpose of what is being achieved. Yes the group have made a conscious decision not to retaliate beyond thier little space and block/delete in the FB portal. Yes there have been issues, but why not contact direct? Why continue with this online slaughter? At the end of the day you make it your mission to 'shut them down'', you also send a whole load of dogs to thier death.

This is PURELY my PERSONAL opinon/post so feel free to strap me to the altar with dagger in hand, but I think it's all getting out of hand and a bit harsh. When I look into my greybabies eyes, I am truly thnkfull they were taken in. The new owners of adopted/spung dogs whom have now been rehomed are all of the same mindset, these guys were pulled at the eleventh hour, imagine if they hadn't. Please chillout people and stop making it a personal battle!

ooh and greymate...I have to say it again...what a sumptuous elegant breed! yummm greybabies....

[Kissindra]

Hi Dogdaze!

er- I didn't add emoticons??? this site translates the text that way.- try it yourself :D i have posted all of that thread also - you can see I've made a concerted effort to do so at your request

I have not professed to know anything about you, but hi! Welcome to the forum - hope you will discuss the relevant issues with us all

I have no hatred on this issue and have indeed made very clear in posts now deleted by the group that questions and attempts to discuss important points are not an attack, others who have had posts deleted have said likewise and indeed, people banned do not know why as they had not posted abusive, angry or foul mouthed posts - merely asked questions and discussed issues around disease prevention and parvo sans accusation, threats or demands.

I have never accused all pound dogs of being "parvo infected write offs"

I have never said pound workers enjoy killing dogs

most assuredly the rescue world has it's share of ego drivel insanity - it can be witnessed quite clearly in the way this group steadfastly refuses to examine practises which have and are causing negative impacts on foster carers and foster dogs. naturally others are concerned by this and will do our best to not let those egos cuase another first time foster carer to be left in the lurch or another group of fosters be exposed to high risk situations

Dogs take second place to status most assuredly - this is why concerning practices which show a marked disrequard for the safety of dogs in care worry people here and on facebook.

I am unable to post the entirity of a facebook page - I am quite glad i've posted what I have as there is at least some record of what the group would obviously rather be deleted. I have endevoured to keep relevant posts together and quite obviously have no qualms about including posts from those in support of the groups actions - would be silly of me not to given the justifications seem to highlight the problem quite nicely

I regularly comment to a variety of groups relating to rescue australia and world wide, sadly they do tend to ban you when you point out where they have made a false claim - must be that ego thing *tsk* such a shame - but some quite happily discuss their approach and strangely it seems those are the ones who rarely do things I find need questioning Also - asking questions is not spamming, not one person who had posts deleted in reference to these issues was "spamming".

I enjoy monty python - though I fail to see the resemblance?

i'm not fostering any dogs this week - amazingly enough that does not render what i have to say invalid some of those with posts deleted run their own rescues, some are vet nurses, some have significant rescue experience and some were foster carers who got screwed over, I'll leave you to guess which category i fall into but even if we play your game of "if you are not currently fostering you have nothing to say" there are many more than me who have echoes my thoughts and asked the same questions that meet that rather small validation of views

Why is the distinction of facebook vrs. over the phone held up as some sort of defining difference? - via facebook my comments are linked to my name(unlike yourself who uses an alias) and they are asked directly to those who would give me answers as they are the very same people who are always monitoring the facebook page. Goodness if poor Poppydog couldn't get them to return a phone call and she is/was a foster carer, and I have been told that as someone not fostering they will not answer my questions exactly what good would it do to pay the cost of a phone call? I rather made it plain i wasn't going to fill in all my personal details in order to send an email through their online form - (basic net safety not to give out your address to those you dont know) and offered to continue a discussion via private messages. I do think that is quite direct enough (oh and earlier I had been told that questions were fine - they were ethical and had no issue answering questions - that changed presumably when there were no good answers to give)

Again - it is not an attack to ask questions, nor to post publicly available information which furthers a discussion which - you may have noticed, was STARTED by a foster carer of the group ;)

You'll note I already posted your final word

[SueM]

Nothing is harsh when putting other people's dogs at risk, if these people who run this rescue group are so experienced they should know better, sorry if that is to harsh. I think I know one of the founders, did she work at Logan Pound?

Edited March 28, 2011 by varicool

[poodlefan]

If this rescue group has only the best intentions, I'd expect to see quarantine practices in place.

Otherwise, we all know what the road to hell is paved with.

Not all dogs at the pound are parvo infected writeoffs

But some are infected and you can't tell which ones they are if they're only incubating. Common sense and compassion for all dogs should surely lead anyone to conclude that you quarantine to protect ALL dogs for the risk of parvo.

[PoppyDog]

Wow! Just wow!

I am literally speechless!

Even *I* know that you do not under ANY circumstances take unvaccinated puppies to dog parks! The girl who got her cross breed from a possibly BYB/Puppy Farm, the girl who was taken for a ride by an unethical rescue group the girl who in terms of DOL is the biggest beginner in the world when it comes to all things dogs! EVEN I KNOW PARVO KILLS!!! I KNOW THAT PUPPIES NEED TO STAY HOME!!!

I hope that puppy make it!!! :D

[SueM]

Its just common sense to tell all foster carers not to take new fosters anywhere public for at least 7-10 days, the only time we did not do this was if we had a dog surrendered to us privately with a full vaccination record. I read that people only had a foster for 2 days and she was worried how it would act at New Farm Park, they have to adopt better practices or any reputation they have will be gone fast. The dog world can be a small place. I can't post this on facebook or I will be banned also quick smart. When I started a rescue group I was attacked here (not that any attack is happening here) as they thought I was rescuing dogs to breed with, but instead of getting upset I explained what was happening and all was fine. If they keep deleting and ignoring people it will only hurt them. Oh another thing people can lie on online forms, re adopting and fostering you have to visit with foster carers, not just let them pick dogs up from the pound and hope for the best.

Edited March 28, 2011 by varicool

[persephone]

What a sad thread.... but I am hoping that it may help educate folks .

[SueM]

What a sad thread.... but I am hoping that it may help educate folks .

Even if its just one foster carer it will be worth it.

[Katdogs]

Please can someone PM me the name of the group?

I donate, now that we're having a break from fostering.

[SueM]

This group did a lot of good during the floods apparently, maybe they got to big to fast have over 14,000 members on one page.

[Danois]

they honestly only have the best of intentions.

this group is simply trying to help out

Sorry but making such basic errors as lack of quarantine and putting other people's dogs at risks is cutting corners and shows a lack of protocols and procedures are in place. People as experienced with dogs as this group purports to be should be well aware of the risks they are creating.

There are so many opportunities for a new rescue group to take the experiences of other groups, set themselves up properly from day 1 to adopt best practices and hold themselves up as an example of the way rescue should be run. But too many of them fall for the same old practices and mantra of 'save at all costs'.

At the end of the day you make it your mission to 'shut them down'', you also send a whole load of dogs to thier death.

- got to love the guilt trip.

[poodlefan]

At the end of the day you make it your mission to 'shut them down'', you also send a whole load of dogs to thier death.

- got to love the guilt trip.

If they persist with their current practices, they won't need outside agitation to be shut down.

One pissed off, well heeled adopter with a parvo affected dog could lawyer up and send them to the wall financially and if they haven't incorporated, could cost someone a great deal of $$$$

Edited March 28, 2011 by poodlefan