~Rumour~ Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Hi All, I was just wondering what everyone rcommends in the way of training DVD and/or books particularly for agility. I currently have a Border Collie which we have done a bit of agility and flyball with (but mostly just for fun). I'm getting another Border Collie in a few weeks time and when she is old enough I'd like to do agility and flyball but I want some extra training tools. So please tell which ones have been the most useful for you. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smisch Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Susan Garett - Crate Games and 2x2 Weaves and sucess with one jump and Can highly recommend the Susan Salo Jumping DVDs they are reall good too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Greg Derrett's Agility Foundation Skills. And ... Shame about the Handler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) Am just starting to do some foundation work for Tahli and have a list of things I want to review and watch before I get started (and build on what we have already done). Things on my list are: Foundation Training for Agility - Moe Strefnel Crate Games - Susan Garrett Success with one jump - susan garrett Foundation jumping - Susan Salo along with Jumping Susan Salo and later Advanced jumping Susan Salo (actually... hmm... I don't think I have the foundation jumping DVD ) Later down the track I'll be looking at: Greg Derrett - the 3 DVDs (I want to have a good foundation before we work up to box work etc) 2x2 Weaves - Susan Garrett - when we are up to that level and for obedience some of the Chris Bach DVDs I want to review . Books wise: "The Focussed Puppy" - can't remember who this is by "Building blocks for Performance" - Can't remember who this is by... "Shaping Success" - Susan Garrett "Clicker world obedience" - Kay Laurence and some of the e notes/ learning notes that came with the DVDs - namely from Chris Bach and Susan Garrett as well as Clean Run Wow - looks like someone's got a lot of work to do . Lucky for me it's mostly revision, so it's just about helping me set up clear goals and plans to do some training with Tahli rather than trying to remember what I did with my previous two (not half as much as I intend to do with Tahli!) Edited March 22, 2011 by leopuppy04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rileys mum Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Clean run currently has the Susan Salo jumping videos on free international shipping as well as 'the focused puppy' book too......if you are interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Rumour~ Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 Clean run currently has the Susan Salo jumping videos on free international shipping as well as 'the focused puppy' book too......if you are interested Thankyou! Just placed my order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Foundation Training for Agility - Moe Strefnel Highly recommended for a newbie. Based on the GD handling system, I watched the first disc last night and was thoroughly impressed! Explained really well and DVD well set out. Nothing there that I didn't know prior, but that's ok, it was good to revise and also good to see if there were any foundation skills that I still need to work on before starting the more 'serious' stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Rumour~ Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 Foundation Training for Agility - Moe Strefnel Highly recommended for a newbie. Based on the GD handling system, I watched the first disc last night and was thoroughly impressed! Explained really well and DVD well set out. Nothing there that I didn't know prior, but that's ok, it was good to revise and also good to see if there were any foundation skills that I still need to work on before starting the more 'serious' stuff Looks like this months pay is going on al the books and dvds added to my wishlist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Second the Susan Garrett DVDs - particularly Success With One Jump - IMO if you only get one agility DVD this is the one to get! Works on focus forward and essential handling techniques using one or no jumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tassie Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Yep - some great suggestions there. For agility, I really like Moe Strenfel who as Lp says, builds on the GD one (which was supposed to be re-done - anyone know if it has been?) To the OP - rmemember that you'll pretty much be working your new kid on the flat for the first 12 months or so - apart maybe from some of the early pre-jumping exercises if you're following Susan Salo. The Derretts for instance, don't put their dogs on equipment until they're 12 or more months old, and have the physical and mental maturity to go flat out. They don't start weaving until about 14 months. So you've got plenty of time to save up for the things that deal with equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Rumour~ Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 So far I've only ordered books/dvds to do with foundation skills but I'm one of those people that likes to have it all well in advance so I can read and watch the entire thing before going back to the beginning and actually starting it. Just how my brain works, I like to plan ahead. I already have Crate Games which I have used with my boy with great success. Another plus is all the wishlist making and online shopping me is helping me pass the time till she's old enogh to come home. Thankyou to everyone for your suggestions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Most importantly D&R - Don't try to do too much too soon (easier said than done I know, because we get so excited about new dogs learning new things ). Tahli is now 10mths old and I'm only just starting to work on some 'important' stuff - I like to give them a chance to grow up, develop and explore the world first - there are so many other stuff to teach in terms of social skills before teaching them equipment/ performance exercises. I often met with awed looks from fellow trainers when I say I've taught Tahli 'nothing', however watching these foundation DVDs I've learnt that over the 10mth period I really have taught her a lot, but not 1/2 as much as I taught my other two (4.5yrs and 6.5yrs) while they were young. I do obedience too, but I have kept that stuff to a minimum also. Things I teach from a young age are things such as: *Learning games (a book by this title written by Kay Laurence is great!!) . this will give your pup the right tools to 'learn' how to learn. *The foundation books aforementioned are great for making sure newbies start off on the right foot. Things like teaching your dog all about reinforcement zone, blind cross body lines (BCBL), tugging, targeting, nose touches, driving forwards to tugs, CIRCLE WORK, sit and wait, settling on a mat, running around a cone, perch work (rear end awareness), holding articles (for obedience).... the list goes on and on and obviously loads to do before you start on equipment work. These exercises help build a GREAT foundation (and hopefully drive and love for training!) before starting on the 'serious' stuff. Now that Tahli is 10 mths I'm starting to refine this a bit. Over the next few months I plan to work on some more foundation exercises (perch work, walking backwards, running around a cone, driving to tug etc) but also adding some new exercises such as crate games, one jump exercises and some SS jump grids. By about 14mths I hope to start working on some GD box work and probably start going to formal classes about now :D. Best of luck with your puppy. You will find a wealth of information on here also, so don't be shy to ask!!! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Just want to plug "The Focussed Puppy" - great little book and gave me plenty to work through. So much of the foundation work is applicable to lots of dog sports. Em is around 7 months old and we work on retrieving, obedience and agility. LP04 is right - don't try to do too much too soon. Emmy does quite a lot of training but she is a working line pup - just desperate to train and really needs to so she can settle. That said, the slightest indication that she is tired or overwhelmed and I stop and, mostly, I am learning to read her and stop before she knows she's tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 By about 14mths I hope to start working on some GD box work More info please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J... Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 By about 14mths I hope to start working on some GD box work More info please? Greg Derrett - Double Box work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 By about 14mths I hope to start working on some GD box work More info please? I would suggest that LP means you have 4 jumps set up in a box shape and you work on various exercises e.g. serps, threadle arm, 180 etc - I'm assuming there is a DVD/book but I just work on the exercises my instructors give me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelpiechick Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I would suggest that LP means you have 4 jumps set up in a box shape and you work on various exercises e.g. serps, threadle arm, 180 etc - I'm assuming there is a DVD/book but I just work on the exercises my instructors give me. 4 jumps in a single box, double box work is essentially 2 single boxes joined together and uses 7 jumps. The DVD with all the exercises is the 2nd GD DVD, 'Great Dog Shame about the Handler' - although for those following his system there are a few exercises on here that are now outdated with the way he runs, especially the rear cross exercises. I have all the DVD's mentioned I think (not that I'm an agility junkie or anything ) and if you want to save some money you could just pick up a copy of the book 'Agility Right from the Start' (Bertilsson and Johnson Vegh) Also based on the Derrett system and covers absolutely everything that all the foundation videos cover plus then goes on to obstacle training, then sequencing, etc. Awesome book and I would rate it as equally as good as everything else I own. Air Dogs had a good price on it a while back. You can also have a look at the author's website (google it) and download a sample for free - plus there are a few video clips that go with the book that demonstrate the exercises being taught. In fact for foundation training you could get the book and maybe Crate Games and you'd have a good foundation well and truly covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 The DVD with all the exercises is the 2nd GD DVD, 'Great Dog Shame about the Handler' Thanks Yep I got it meant Greg Derrett and double box work, what I neglected to say was please explain where I can pick up some visual drills on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelpiechick Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 This is a really cool website for generating your own double box sequences if you haven't seen it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrietta Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 *Learning games (a book by this title written by Kay Laurence is great!!) . this will give your pup the right tools to 'learn' how to learn. I really loved this book too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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