White Shepherd mom Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 hi guys, I am posting for a friend of mine who two weeks ago brought home an adorable 8 week old GSD puppy. He has started having seizures and today had his 6th. She has already taken him to the vet twice, the vet suggested possible poisoning as the puppy is too young to be epileptic. The vet has also referred her to a neurosurgeon. Has anyone had similar experiences? Do you have any ideas as to what might be causing his seizures and what avenues my friend should be exploring? This lady is one of the best pet owners I know. I know she has already fallen in love with this bundle of fluff so I hope she can get to the bottom of this quickly. TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Lola Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 (edited) hi guys,I am posting for a friend of mine who two weeks ago brought home an adorable 8 week old GSD puppy. He has started having seizures and today had his 6th. She has already taken him to the vet twice, the vet suggested possible poisoning as the puppy is too young to be epileptic. The vet has also referred her to a neurosurgeon. Has anyone had similar experiences? Do you have any ideas as to what might be causing his seizures and what avenues my friend should be exploring? This lady is one of the best pet owners I know. I know she has already fallen in love with this bundle of fluff so I hope she can get to the bottom of this quickly. TIA We had a labrador pup surrendered to us at 9 weeks old due to seizures and his young owner could not afford numerous vet visits and a lifetime of meds Has the pup been treated with a spot on flea treatment or similar recently ? ETA ...has she contacted the pups breeder ? Edited March 13, 2011 by Loopy Lola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flick_Mac Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Portosystemic shunts can cause seizures, often in young puppies. Has the vet done blood tests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shepherd~ Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 how sad for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozzie Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 It can be idiopathic. I'd be contacting the breeder asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim'sMum Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 She has already taken him to the vet twice, the vet suggested possible poisoning as the puppy is too young to be epileptic. Sorry...but there is no such thing as 'too young to be epileptic' in mammals. Human babies can have seizures from birth due to epilepsy....which can be from a brain malformation or ideopathic (no known cause). There is also many other conditions that can cause seizures....and also neuro toxins (poisoning by something ingested or absorbed through the skin usually) which can cause seizures. I would hope the vet has taken blood for analysis...at the least? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaves Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Please tell your friend to contact the breeder immediately if they havent already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Shepherd mom Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Thank you for all your replies. I have asked her whether the vet has done blood tests and whether she has contacted the breeder, I'm waiting for her reply which I'll probably get tomorrow. In the meanwhile if you have any other suggestions, please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 If I had bred this puppy I would want it returned asap for my vet to investigate what is going on. If it is a toxin then the owner would be responsible but for anything else a refund is probably in order. It could be epilepsy, brain tumour, liver shunt, or any number of potentially fatal problems that could not be detected before it was sold. Please don't let your friend run up any more vet bills for anything other than toxins without consulting the breeder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoofnHoof Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Are there any other symptoms? Seizures can indicate a liver shunt although they didn't present in my boy until later early signs include failure to thrive, digestive issues, depression and a host of others although they don't all have to present to indicate a shunt. Blood test should be a priority in the meantime keep the diet bland and low protein if there is an issue with the liver it should show up in blood tests they normally do a pre and post eating test which gives the best indicator of liver function. Other things to look out for are poisoning, lead poisoning was suspected in my dogs case some dogs get it from chewing batteries etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Worms. I know personally of 2 pups (no cnnection to each other) that suffered recurrent seizures due to heavy worm burden. I think Trisvern on here also had a rescue pup in that suffered the same. Once wormed and cleared of the infestation, the dogs returned to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Contact the puppies breeder IMMEDIATELY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdogdog Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Yes I was also going to say worms. When I got my shepherd many years ago he had a seizure and it was due to him not being wormed as a baby by the breeder. He spent a couple of days at the vets and then all was okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Pepper was around 13 weeks, when he had terrible seizures (nearly died, induced coma, intensive care etc...) 3 days after his second puppy vaccination. Most vets we saw in Sydney did not think there was a connection with the vaccination, but some vets in Germany I spoke with, thought there might well have been a reaction. Kennel cough (Bordetella) appears to be the most likely suspect here. Anyway, Pepper came out of it, and - touch wood - has been fine so far, he is nearly 2 years old now. Since this episode, he has not had any vaccination, only Parvo (single), and that only because some dogs were found with Parvo around the Inner West. From now on Pepper will have blood Titre tests to determine whether even Parvo vac. is necessary. Hope the little baby is going to be o.k.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozzie Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Any news WSm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 There is anecdotal evidence that vaccinations combiined with flea/worm treatments which are ingested have caused fits. If this is the case the seizures should stop after time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Shepherd mom Posted March 15, 2011 Author Share Posted March 15, 2011 apparently he was seizure free yesterday and my friend has to take a stool sample to the vet, that's all the info I got. I still don't know whether blood tests were done or whether the breeder has been contacted. I hope to find out a little more soon. I will definitely pass on the information posted here, who would have thought that doing the right thing by flea treating and vaccinating your pup could cause damage? In the cases where the cause was flea treatment and/or vaccines, did the puppies recover ok? Thanks for all your replies, I'll update you as soon as I know more. I just hope the little guy will be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scales of Justice Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Get your friend to check out around the home whether they have any Lead Paintwork that the puppy may have been exposed to. I know some people who had an 8 week old puppy who had fits and the puppy had lead poisoning from chewing old paintwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abby Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Meningitis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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