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Okay so my brother is moving out probably at the end of the year and he wants a dog.

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Medium to Large (has good income so will be able to feed and vet bills etc)

Must be good with kids (he has a 4yr and a newborn)

Will be living by himself so needs a dog that wants attention.

I will take him/her to obedience for him

and will probably go to my work while he works if it works out okay.

Will walk him/her once a day when fully grown and he will be looking for a medium size yard.

Small breeds also considered if wanted

Just in for opinions

oh he has previously owned a husky x but got stolen :cheer: so he isn't new at the whole puppy thing but he isn't dog savvy either

Its not official yet but just looking for ideas :laugh:

Thanks in advance

i know how some of you like suggesting breeds so i thought it would be interesting to see what people say :)

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a spaniel or beagle?

so needs a dog that wants attention

Did you mean to write that? Kelpie? Always wants attention. Not always good with kids (depends on how well it is raised and its ancestry ie were the parents well behaved).

Brittany Spaniels are gorgeous and don't mind doing obedience or agility. And are not easily upset or dragged into fights by rude children or dogs.

I know of two bull terriers in my life that also fit that description. But I think you'd want to get a top quality bull terrier with known good temperment in the ancestry. And the owner would have to make an effort regards socialisation.

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Did you mean to write that? Kelpie? Always wants attention. Not always good with kids (depends on how well it is raised and its ancestry ie were the parents well behaved).

Brittany Spaniels are gorgeous and don't mind doing obedience or agility. And are not easily upset or dragged into fights by rude children or dogs.

I know of two bull terriers in my life that also fit that description. But I think you'd want to get a top quality bull terrier with known good temperment in the ancestry. And the owner would have to make an effort regards socialisation.

I suggested Brittany and he doesnt mind them :cheer: His daughter(also thought brittanys were cute lol) is surprisingly good with dogs for a 4yr old she has never pulled or tugged on my old dog and not scared of them or nothing. Thats the main reason why he wants a dog cause he wants his kids to grow up with them. :laugh:

Thanks for your idea just see what other people think :)

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I would suggest a Golden Retriever, Springer Spaniel or Cocker Spaniel or maybe a Whippet, but no matter what breed the individual dog's temperament needs to be right. I would avoid the working group (except for Shelties) the terrier group and most of the utility group if your brother isn't dog savvy. Many from those groups are too much for a complete novice dog owner to raise properly.

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A Lappie would tick his list :laugh: And they LOVE cuddles and attention (well my lot do!!) LOL

Completely agreed. If he's had a Husky x before, a Lappie is a piece of cake. And mine ADORES people - she's the first to go and beg cuddles off every stranger she meets. :cheer:

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I appreciate that you're only helping DP but your brother should train the dog himself. It's an important part of forming a bond of trust and confidence between dog and owner.

If the dog will spend most of its days with you and be trained by you, I'd be questioning how effective a bond it will have with him.

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DancingBC - Why would you exclude Working Group? Corgi's, Lapphunds, Aussies, Collies, GSD's etc, all make wonderful first time companions, so long as the owner is willing to put in the time, but that can be said for any breed :laugh: lets not forget that Shelties require a lot more grooming than some others breeds too :cheer:

DP - Hopefully your brother decides on a breed that suits his lifestyle, its good to start thinking about it now and do some research :)

Poodlefan - I believe that the dog will go to work with the OP, Because she will be working at a doggy day-care centre, which in my opinion would be nothing but a PLUS for socialisation while the owner is at work....

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If he wants a dog that WANTS attention, I dont think you can reliably get that from a Lapphund. I barely see Demi all day because she is little miss independent, but appart from that I think it would be a good fit. She likes to greet new people, but wouldnt call her a dog that wants attention at home. It just depends if he does want a velcro dog, or a dog that is more independent.

Kelpie- would depend on how much time he wants to give it. I have an injury so mine haven't been walk for over a week and they dont really care, so long as they can be in the same room as me so would thrive being able to go to work. Generally they get walked when I have time, play fetch everyday in the back yard, and go to training 1-2 times per week. Two of the dogs I have bred go to doggy day care and they are very happy and social there.

They also have quite a high tolerance level- I grew up with one and it dealt with pegs on its ears (i think i was 3 at the time), being ridden because I wanted a pony, being 'trained' by me, having me play with her food etc. So from a good breeder I could defiantly say kelpies are great with kids. My current Kelpies have not had much socialisation with kids, but all know to stand quietly around miniature humans, lie down with the miniature miniature humans (babies), and they will all find me if they have had enough of what the kids are doing to them. Kelpies are also 'dobbers'. I was forever being found doing something naughty because Kala would run inside and bark at my mum and bring her out to me!!!!

With good advice I think a kelpie can be owned by someone not dog savvy. You just need someone to let you know when they see the dog training YOU to do something for them, instead of you training the dog!!

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DancingBC - Why would you exclude Working Group? Corgi's, Lapphunds, Aussies, Collies, GSD's etc, all make wonderful first time companions, so long as the owner is willing to put in the time, but that can be said for any breed :( lets not forget that Shelties require a lot more grooming than some others breeds too :)

DP - Hopefully your brother decides on a breed that suits his lifestyle, its good to start thinking about it now and do some research :hug:

Poodlefan - I believe that the dog will go to work with the OP, Because she will be working at a doggy day-care centre, which in my opinion would be nothing but a PLUS for socialisation while the owner is at work....

Dogperson stated her brother is not dog savvy, therefore he needs a dog that is happy to please him but not constantly thinking for itself. A Collie might also be suitable but most working breeds are not what I call easy going and require a reasonable amount of knowledge to raise one right. All can be wonderful dogs with kids but first the owner needs to know more than the dog. ;) I would never recommend most working breeds to a first time dog owner.

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DancingBC - Why would you exclude Working Group? Corgi's, Lapphunds, Aussies, Collies, GSD's etc, all make wonderful first time companions, so long as the owner is willing to put in the time, but that can be said for any breed :( lets not forget that Shelties require a lot more grooming than some others breeds too :)

DP - Hopefully your brother decides on a breed that suits his lifestyle, its good to start thinking about it now and do some research :hug:

Poodlefan - I believe that the dog will go to work with the OP, Because she will be working at a doggy day-care centre, which in my opinion would be nothing but a PLUS for socialisation while the owner is at work....

I didnt' say anything about the socialisation benefits (which by the way may not be all positive). I was concerned about the ability for the dog to bond with an owner who will only see it for a few hours a day and seemingly won't be involved in its training. If it's to be kept outside, it will almost be at the stage of a part-time resident.

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DancingBC - Why would you exclude Working Group? Corgi's, Lapphunds, Aussies, Collies, GSD's etc, all make wonderful first time companions, so long as the owner is willing to put in the time, but that can be said for any breed :( lets not forget that Shelties require a lot more grooming than some others breeds too :)

DP - Hopefully your brother decides on a breed that suits his lifestyle, its good to start thinking about it now and do some research :hug:

Poodlefan - I believe that the dog will go to work with the OP, Because she will be working at a doggy day-care centre, which in my opinion would be nothing but a PLUS for socialisation while the owner is at work....

I didnt' say anything about the socialisation benefits. I was concerned about the ability for the dog to bond with an owner who will only see it for a few hours a day and seemingly won't be involved in its training. If it's to be kept outside, it will almost be at the stage of a part-time resident.

I do all of Akira's training and we both work fulltime so essentially our situation is the same. Yet Akira has bonded to my OH who she sees much less of, and she hasn't with me. It's definitely doable, though it really depends on the dog. I think an attention seeking dog would be more likely to not bond in that situation, but a more independent dog could easily bond.

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All I know that my 4 lappies all love attention, and cuddles on the couch. :) I'm sitting here typing and 3 of the 4 are within a meter or so of me, snoozing. Usually there is a puppy under my chair, but I think she is sleeping in my bedroom at the moment!

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I do all of Akira's training and we both work fulltime so essentially our situation is the same. Yet Akira has bonded to my OH who she sees much less of, and she hasn't with me. It's definitely doable, though it really depends on the dog. I think an attention seeking dog would be more likely to not bond in that situation, but a more independent dog could easily bond.

Unless Akira goes to doggy daycare 5 days a week, I'd argue your situation is quite different.

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Someone mentioned a Whippet.

Whilst a Whippet would be good in respect to a few of the things he is after, I am not sure that being at Doggy day care all day for at least 5 days a week would actually suit a Whippet at all. I may be wrong and they do like playing with other dogs at times but they are not social butterfly's.

They also need to be inside with the family. I am not sure if he was planning to have the dog inside when he was home or not.

They do love being with people and following you around, they are good with kids, not hypo, very clean in the house, and don't need hours of exercise.

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