Breeding

[Guest Clover]

While ever there are dogs in pounds I could never breed. Just my personal opinion & belief only, doesn't mean I don't disagree with breeding per se

Same here Madwoofer, i just could not add to that (i know, i know not many pedigree's in shelters/ pounds).

[FHRP]

I have raised a litter bred by my bitches co-owner, and I enjoyed doing that. I currently only own and have a strong preference for male dogs, so that puts breeding litters out However I would consider breeding a litter myself in the future, probably so that I can get what I want (hopefully) in my breed/s as I'm just not seeing the breedings I'd be interested in happening.

Edited March 1, 2011 by FHRP

[Dory the Doted One]

I used to breed, quite a long time ago.

My desire was to not just better a breed, but to ensure it would continue on and ensure it had diversity etc.

I gave up because it got too expensive and I'm way too soft. I absolutely hated screening prospective buyers. I hated accepting money for the puppies and sending them off.

Because I am way too soft, I wanted to keep them all. I disliked some of the attitudes of people looking for puppies. And I especially hated it when I misjudged a person. I would

punish myself badly for my mistakes.

I did LOVE having the puppies. Taking care of them and the bitch. Playing with them, socialising them etc. Just hated the grungy business side of it. And as that IS a part of the deal,

I do not breed anymore. And I am unlikely to breed in the future. This would only happen if I had a bitch on breeders terms, and only if I got to whelp her myself, raise the puppies until

the breeder could take them or they were ready for their new homes....as screened etc by breeder. I would just be the poo, food and play chick.

[RoxyNHemi]

I dont breed, and I dont really have intention too...

I love showing sound breed examples, but see all the heartache and pain that goes into it, and its just not for me.

I have a great breeder now, that I hope will keep breeding me dogs to show.

I only can have 3 dogs at a time too, and I will let my dogs live out their lives with me, so I will have to just resign to showing others dogs, when I cant have any more...

[poodlefan]

I dont breed, and I dont really have intention too...

I love showing sound breed examples, but see all the heartache and pain that goes into it, and its just not for me.

I have a great breeder now, that I hope will keep breeding me dogs to show.

I only can have 3 dogs at a time too, and I will let my dogs live out their lives with me, so I will have to just resign to showing others dogs, when I cant have any more...

This.

All my dogs are keepers. That makes me a woeful breeder prospect.

[Vickie]

Most of the breeders in my breed have been around well over 20 years.

...

Puppy farmers and export agents have now ruined the way things worked. No one is game to sell main register puppies for fear of where they will end up but it means that no new buyers are becoming breeders and exhibitors, unless they specifially plan, research and basically do an apprenticeship. r.

I am assuming the above statements are limited to/relate to breeders who exhibit. I certainly don't see them as true for those breeding for the performance & pet market

Edited March 1, 2011 by Vickie

[cowanbree]

I never planned to and would prefer not to but I can't buy the quality of dog I want to own. It is extremely difficult to breed a decent sheltie so when you do it is almost never for sale.

[Vickie]

I understand what you are saying, but...I have already said that I don't have the knowledge to breed to the standard I want in a dog, choose a suitable stud/bitch or to be sure that offspring would be a positive contribution to the breed. If I were ever to do this (LOL, not likely for a long time since every dog I currently own is sterilised), it would be on the advice & faith in someone who did have this knowledge...not sure if that would make me a breeder or not...

In my book it does, even if you go with what your mentor is telling you. It does take two to tango after all

fair enough

[Gayle.]

Actually, last week sealed the deal for me. A bitch in season and a horny 10 month old male puppy in the house together......not fun.

This was part of an email my husband sent to his sister in the US, which perfectly describes what has just been the doggy week from hell for us.

Posted with his permission, of course.

"Between political unrest and wild weather around the world, and all these global warming "experts" making a great deal of money with their less than educated predictions of doom and gloom, there is still some natural humor that occurs.

We have in this corner, Ms Dusty, at 23 kgs who has entered her 2nd week of her cycle season.

And, in that corner, at 30 kgs, Arnold Swartz-a-left-nut-just-dropped Issak.

We segregated our heroes as a precaution at the first sign of Ms Dusty's "season" while in the back of my mind, he's only 10 months old,he wouldn't have a clue.. would he? .... well, nature has a way of proving everyone wrong. During dinner serving for this pack of 4 legged kids, Dusty and Isaak managed to make visual contact for about 10 seconds before we separated them, just after he got a wiff of wow that was emanating from Princess Dusty.

Isaak transformed into this testosterone high bred machine, and was literally running around the walls. He was text book ballistic.

He wouldn’t even touch his dinner which in it self was amazing, he normally would snort his dinner in one bite.

After all the shelves being emptied I thought I better put him and his dinner outside before he kills the TV,

he was running laps and trying to climb trees while barking. All night he was carrying on, it was a bit awkward to say the least.

The following morning, I put Benson and Dusty in the pergola that's secured with a gate,

and placed Shae and Mr. Hard-On in the yard. He's still going stupid at 7 am because he can see Dusty thru the gate. So not to upset the neighbours,I went and put an electronic collar on him, to stop the barking. He figured out with in seconds, the collar only works for barking, not yelping.

So he is now making more noise than before. I'm now wondering what the hell I can do, I got to go to work.

As I entered the kitchen, which over looks the pergola, To my amazement, I see Benson, who is neutered calling Isaakwhile he is humping his brains out with Dusty as if to say "oh, sorry mate, cant get thru the fence huh, tough luck, " with this big stupid grin on his face.

I couldn’t stop laughing, who says dogs don’t have a sense of humour."

[dancinbcs]

Most of the breeders in my breed have been around well over 20 years.

...

Puppy farmers and export agents have now ruined the way things worked. No one is game to sell main register puppies for fear of where they will end up but it means that no new buyers are becoming breeders and exhibitors, unless they specifially plan, research and basically do an apprenticeship. r.

I am assuming the above statements are limited to/relate to breeders who exhibit. I certainly don't see them as true for those breeding for the performance & pet market

I would include the majority of reputable, dedicated show and performance breeders in the category. I don't count the miriad producers of coloured puppies, all sold on limit register, at inflated prices, to make a quick buck. They contribute nothing to breed and are basically registered puppy producers not breeders.

At the first BC National in 2006 at least 75% of the exhibitors in show, obedience, agility and herding had been in the breed for over 20 years. The club took a photo of all of us with 20+ years breed experience and the majority of the people present were in that photo.

[whiskedaway]

;)

OMG Gayle, I was trying so hard not to laugh at work reading that!

[poodlemum]

My ex & I became breeders by chance - we really wanted another Standard Poodle and, at that time, could not find any in Australia that we liked. We approached the breeder in NZ from whom we had bought our first Poodle, who had recently gone to the Bridge and then another bitch. She suggested that we have a litter from the young bitch and was there for us as a mentor throughout the whole experience. Although the first litter we bred was a very harrowing experience (due mainly to bad advice and questionable practices by our Vet) we persevered and went on to breed another 7 litters of beautiful puppies - mostly pets, some doing Obedience, some Tracking and other disciplines and one who is doing well in the show ring.

[Inevitablue]

I dont want to say no to breeding. I love my breed so much and tell everyone about just how versatile and wonderful a good one is.

If/when I do it, I will be definately keeping the pick.

Breeding the horses became a bit of an obsession, researching lines, families, finding sires/dams to complement conformation etc. Then the nutritional aspect of the mare etc etc.

The first foal I delivered, I have never been so excited before. Like unwrapping a christmas present to see the colour, sex, conformation and markings. My first attempt at breeding resulted in something really special. (thats him in the sig at 16months old). Maybe I fluked it, but I get excited at the thought of breeding really special animals.

My biggest hurdle I would need to prepare for is parting with the puppies. Horses are different...food, water, some company etc and they are relatively happy.

I can't ever see myself keeping multiple dogs in runs though. No more than 2 or 3 for me.

Edited March 1, 2011 by Jakemon

[poodlemum]

While ever there are dogs in pounds I could never breed. Just my personal opinion & belief only, doesn't mean I don't disagree with breeding per se

I see your point, but there will always be people who want purebred dogs (and the paperwork to PROVE they are purebred) surely this is what this site's all about!

[Nekhbet]

While ever there are dogs in pounds I could never breed. Just my personal opinion & belief only, doesn't mean I don't disagree with breeding per se

remember not every dog in the pound is a good further breeding prospect or can fill a particular niche. There is more to breeding then just pets - why should the accidents and poorly thought about breedings be the only place to get a pup?

[Ons]

that post is hysterical Gayle

I thought I would never breed. However I won't say that now. If I had known the dog people that I know now I would not have had my golden retreiver Tilly desexed and would have bred from her provided that her breeder and other golden retreiver breeders thought she was good enough (which they do) and that all her health clearances are good. Tilly is a gorgeous golden colour and there are few really golden goldens in this area.

[Miss B]

For me, the desire to breed was just part of a natural progression - I fell in love with my breed, acquired my first dog, became hooked on showing. Titled (and then desexed) my first dog, found myself a wonderful mentor, acquired my second dog. All going well, she will be my foundation bitch. I'm sure mine is quite a common story

[spanky]

I would like to breed someday in the future, but I'd like to start out with a male to show first. I feel that I can be a good breeder and would be able to offer something to the breed. The way I look at it, there might be lots of more experienced breeders than me, but there needs to be new breeders to carry on when established breeders step back.

This will all depend on whether I feel I have the time to dedicate to it, but breeding is where my interest lies professionally (livestock) so I wouldn't be surprised if that drives me to make dog breeding a hobby.

[Loraine]

Could not answer on the poll, but I was a breeder 30+ years ago. I thoroughly enjoyed it (had a great mentor to get me going). I am not way past the thrill of breeding and showing, but still have the same breed of dog as a pet.

[Bjelkier]

For me, the desire to breed was just part of a natural progression - I fell in love with my breed, acquired my first dog, became hooked on showing. Titled (and then desexed) my first dog, found myself a wonderful mentor, acquired my second dog. All going well, she will be my foundation bitch. I'm sure mine is quite a common story

Same, for me it was natural.

I had an idea that I wanted to do it after seeing my Aunt with her beautiful Cav's but the decision was made 100% after getting my first Sammie.