HugUrPup Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) My sister in law has a pedigree Golden Retriever, who she wants to offer stud services with. How would she go about that? What fee should she be asking? What things should she look for when choosing the bitch? Where's the best place to advertise? Thanks Edited February 17, 2011 by HugUrPup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paptacular! Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 If she absolutely intends on doing it, she must be a member of her stater's Canine Council. I'm not sure if she would need a breeder's prefix or not, she would need to check her state's rules. A 'sought after' stud shouldn't need advertising..... though the best place to 'advertise' as such is the show ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelsun Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 She firstly should check with the breeder of the dog to get their advice on whether the dog is a good representation for the breed. This breed is a dime a dozen...it's unlikely she'll get any interest other than someone with a standard poodle bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) If she intends to do it , with registered and approved bitches,and so enable resulting pups able to be properly registered - wouldn't there be quite a bit of official paperwork and health certification etc ,involved? Edited February 17, 2011 by persephone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Given that there is so much choice in her breed, he would need to be an outstanding example, probably a stunning show record, hips, elbows, and I think eye's & heart clear. unless he is a much sought after import or from stunning lines, I'd say she would need to be very careful about advertising him, or she'll end up with byb lining up. The outstanding dogs in a breed never need to advertise. fifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 He is VCA registered and council registered, but no breeder prefix as yet. She doesn't have time to show being a single mother of 1 and another on the way (she's my brothers X). The parents of her dog are Champions. Her dog obviously has no reputation being that has never been in the ring. Could the breeder where he was purchased show him on her behalf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paptacular! Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 He is VCA registered and council registered, but no breeder prefix as yet.She doesn't have time to show being a single mother of 1 and another on the way (she's my brothers X). The parents of her dog are Champions. Her dog obviously has no reputation being that has never been in the ring. Could the breeder where he was purchased show him on her behalf? The breeder could show him. Important question - is the dog main registered or on limit register? If he's on limit, he cannot be shown or bred from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 He's main registered. The breeders said when she chose him, that he would be great for breeding and showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) ... Edited February 17, 2011 by Aziah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 He is VCA registered and council registered, but no breeder prefix as yet.She doesn't have time to show being a single mother of 1 and another on the way (she's my brothers X). The parents of her dog are Champions. Her dog obviously has no reputation being that has never been in the ring. Could the breeder where he was purchased show him on her behalf? She needs to phone up the breeder and discuss with them, maybe he hasn't matured into a dog that could offer something in the breeding world. Phone the breeder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paptacular! Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 He's main registered.The breeders said when she chose him, that he would be great for breeding and showing. If this is the case, the breeder should be happy to show him. Your sister would have to ensure all the appropriate health tests are done that Goldies require before siring a litter, and have excellent scores. Another important question to ask is why does your sister want to stud him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 Cool... I'll get her to start with the breeder and ask about if they can show him for her. They are local to me, so I could take him to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Cool... I'll get her to start with the breeder and ask about if they can show him for her.They are local to me, so I could take him to them. He needs to be worthy of showing (just because he was assessed as a puppy as show 'potential' doesn't automatically mean that he matured into a show quality dog). The breeders will need to re-assess the dog before anything else is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 Another important question to ask is why does your sister want to stud him? You will probably not like the answer I can't stop her from doing it, but I can at least ensure it's done correctly, or show her it's too involved to be worth it for her. I talked her out of a cross at a pet shop, so I hope I can influence her into doing things right this time too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) Another important question to ask is why does your sister want to stud him? Just about to ask the same question. fifi edit, just saw you posted. If its for the money, then yep - she'll only attract byb and GR X Poodle puppy farmers :-( Edited February 17, 2011 by fifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janba Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 In NSW the owner of the dog need to be a member of DogsNSW but doesn't have a prefix. At the time of service she needs to give the bitch owner a signed service certificate that can be otained from you states CC. She would also need to have him hip and elbow scored (not sure if these are mandatory for GR) and any other health tests usual in the breed. A stud dog needs to have something special to offer the bitch owner, whether it is oustanding comformation, outstanding performance ability etc. The dog needs to be able to improve on the bitch is no matter what you are breeding for. There are far more good male dogs than there are potential stud dogs. The other things she needs to consider is can she house visiting bitches, can she assist if there are problems with the mating, does she know a good stud master if there are problems. Its often not just throwing 2 dogs together in the back yard. The only place I advertise my dog is Dogzonline, most enquiries I get are from people who know him or about him or word of mouth from other BC people. I really find having people use him is a bit of a pain as the bitches are never ready to mate when it is convenient for me and I do my homework on the bitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ish Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 She'll have quite a few hundred dollars to fork out to begin with for his xrays and other health tests too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollipop Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 The dog will need to have his hips and elbows xrayed then sent away for scoring. Only dogs with low scores will be considered for use in breeding programs by reputable breeders. He also needs his eyes examined and cleared of hereditary disease by a specialist and his heart examined by a cardiac specialist. The dog needs to be seen out at shows or obedience trials to be noticed. There are many sought after dogs out there so the competition is fierce. The stud fee is approximately the same price as the cost of a puppy but there are many different arrangements made between breeders. It would be helpful to join the GR club in the state that she lives in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 Thanks for the replies.. I will get her to read this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Does she know anything about managing a mating? Anyone with a bitch they value in any way is not going to allow her to run around the back lawn with the stud dog under the ''supervision'' of someone who knows nothing about the ins-and-outs of mating dogs. Has she got the facilities to look after bitches that visit, sometimes for up to a week if the owners get their dates very wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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