corvus Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 Just doing the survey now and wondering if breed is a consideration in the "trainability" question? Depends on how many responses for each breed. One of the reasons why breed rarely gets considered is that numbers for each breed are too low to draw conclusions from. I think it's fair to assume there are significant breed differences, but being able to prove it is another thing all together. Some researchers have tried to handle this by pooling breeds into Group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkycat Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Just doing the survey now and wondering if breed is a consideration in the "trainability" question? And what about an untrainable owner or an owner with a trainable dog that doesn't train I have done the survey for both mine and the only question that I got stuck with was about fear and barking/excitement - my Lappie is generally fearless but loves to "talk" about everything and to everyone she meets. Corvus I am looking forward to hearing more when this is finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raineth Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I liked it Corvus and filled it out for both of mine. There were only two questions I didn't know the answers to. One was how friendly/afraid they are when approached by unknown people when you're not there. I don't know! and the other was how they are with entire females - I don't know if they've ever met an entire female! So I just guessed those couple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I am looking forward to seeing the results too! Some of those questions seem to have a lot to do with socialisation, training and the training ability of the owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuffles Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I am looking forward to seeing the results too!Some of those questions seem to have a lot to do with socialisation, training and the training ability of the owner True, but I answered for both my dogs and the answers were very different! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raineth Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I am looking forward to seeing the results too!Some of those questions seem to have a lot to do with socialisation, training and the training ability of the owner True, but I answered for both my dogs and the answers were very different! same for me! I think they got a different answer for practically everything! (they are very different) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clastic Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) Done for both of my monsters. Some answers for my 2 were the same, but most of it in regards to themselves was different. Edited February 17, 2011 by Clastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W Sibs Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Did it for both mine too. Very interested in the results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mita Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Considering this is purebred forum with many breeders there was no option for "Bred this dog" under "Where did you obtain the dog".Then asking what age you aquired the dog, surely birth, 4-6 wks, 8-10 wks, 11wks -1 year and older than 1 year, would have been better options when assessing temperament and social skills. Those early weeks are far more critical to the final social behaviour of a dog, than any other time in their life. Was also a little stuck with the questions about playing with other dogs. Does that apply to the dogs they know or live with or strange dogs, because my dogs are never allowed to play with strange dogs. Just answered it for the dogs they live with. Agree very much with the highlighted bit. Also is 'play' being used as an umbrella term for 'socialising' with other dogs? Or does it mean engaging in certain ways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Done x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) If you're a breeder and you bred the dog, then you got the dog from a breeder. Or skip it. There's a trade-off between detail in data and powerful numbers. Too many groupings and I will inevitably have to pool groups because I won't have the numbers I need. I pre-pooled wherever possible because it saves time and effort. I have spent too many hours of my life entering data that is too detailed to use to inflict it upon myself lightly! Asking the difference between temperaments in dogs acquired at 4 weeks, 8 weeks or 12 weeks is a level of detail I decided would not get enough numbers to examine properly, and the rest of the questions aren't geared towards the effects of early experiences anyway. That's a survey on its own! Hope that helps. ETA "Play" is however you interpret it. There have been entire books written trying to define play! Edited February 17, 2011 by corvus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskedaway Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Have done for Akira, I don't really know Halo well enough to answer for her yet, but I know I would definitely answer a lot of things differently for her - I put that down to early socialisation though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leema Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 You do the best you can. It's meant to be "in general". If you can't answer a question you can skip it. Ah, good. The one that said "Obeys the "stay" command immediately." I didn't want to answer - I haven't taught her "stay" so of course she wouldn't respond to it immediately. So glad I didn't do a bad by skipping it. I will now fill it in for a couple of other dogs I own. I hope you get some valuable data. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 If you're a breeder and you bred the dog, then you got the dog from a breeder. Or skip it. There's a trade-off between detail in data and powerful numbers. Too many groupings and I will inevitably have to pool groups because I won't have the numbers I need. I pre-pooled wherever possible because it saves time and effort. I have spent too many hours of my life entering data that is too detailed to use to inflict it upon myself lightly! Asking the difference between temperaments in dogs acquired at 4 weeks, 8 weeks or 12 weeks is a level of detail I decided would not get enough numbers to examine properly, and the rest of the questions aren't geared towards the effects of early experiences anyway. That's a survey on its own! Hope that helps. ETA "Play" is however you interpret it. There have been entire books written trying to define play! Fair enough with not wanting too much detail but most of the questions relate so much to what happened to the dog in it's first four months that I thought that should be relevant. I did put "breeder" for where I obtained my dog, but again there is a huge difference in behaviour with dogs I raise myself and those that come from others. I always prefer home bred dogs when possible so I can have them behaving the way I want by the time they are 8 weeks and not have to undo what they have been taught by someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfsie Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I liked it and found it interesting and would love to know the results. i did my four individually as they are now, today..........I know a lot of that is from training, especially the rescue. I found it interesting, because it showed me how much difference there was between the two dog I have from pup, the re-trained rescue and the new rescue. I had never really thought about some of the things. i suppose breed traits will also show up. eg Newf's are very people orientated even if they have been mistreated. Very interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 I did put "breeder" for where I obtained my dog, but again there is a huge difference in behaviour with dogs I raise myself and those that come from others. I always prefer home bred dogs when possible so I can have them behaving the way I want by the time they are 8 weeks and not have to undo what they have been taught by someone else. There are a few studies that suggest a profound effect on coping skills of animals with different experiences in early development. Varying degrees of flexibility and "fixability" in the behaviour. It is extremely interesting. One day, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Done my three. The old fella is very different to the Whippets - our favourite saying around him - Not the sharpest tool mate, not the sharpest tool! I only put contact details on one though not sure if that matters?? He always has to be told everything at least twice because that is how the OH trained him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus Posted May 29, 2011 Author Share Posted May 29, 2011 *bump* I'm closing this survey at the end of this week. I have had such a great response with almost 1000 completed surveys. Many thanks to everyone who has helped out filling out one or more surveys for their own dogs and passing it on to friends and family. If you haven't participated, this is a friendly reminder so you don't miss out if you wanted to be a part of it. The only requirements are that you live in Australia, are fluent in English, and over 18. http://sydney.edu.au/vetscience/teaching_learning/surveys/bias_dogs.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyesblue Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Have done the survey. Good luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisha'sMummy Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Just did this for my two. good luck with your studies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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