pixie_meg Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Ok, so what type of antibiotics do they use for the treatment of kennel cough? 2nd question, Do dogs with kennel cough, cough all the time or pretty irregularly? 3rd, Does kennel cough cause diarrhea at all? and lastly, whats the average duration of kennel cough? thanks heaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 kennel cough is a virus. AB's are only used if there is a secondary infection, AFAIK . Dogs with kennel cough can cough lots, or only when excited/being walked ...it depends on teh dog, and the severity of the bug.It also depends on what sort of collar they wear, and if they are walked, pulling on collar, because the collar will aggravate the inflammation exactly in the right/wrong spot..and cause coughing...so will sudden cold air..barking and excitement :D I don't know about the diarrhoea- haven't noticed it in KC cases I remember ,sorry. I was taught that KC lasts about 3 weeks without treatment, and 21 days with treatment :D That was a while ago ... I think now, with more options, there may be a shorter duration.... I have seen on here folks advising teh use of MANUKA honey to help soothe the throat, and help heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ons Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Ok, so what type of antibiotics do they use for the treatment of kennel cough?2nd question, Do dogs with kennel cough, cough all the time or pretty irregularly? 3rd, Does kennel cough cause diarrhea at all? and lastly, whats the average duration of kennel cough? thanks heaps. I've only had one experience with kennel cough when a foster had it. She was really sick for about four days with it, then coughed on and off for about two weeks with it. I got her antibiotics as she wasn't in that good a condition when she came to me. Sorry can't remember the name of the antibiotics Tilly my golden retreiver caught it from Stella, but as she had been immunised, although about a month overdue, she only had a few coughs on the first day, coughing badly on the second and as right as rain after that. Not sure about diarrhea although I have had something like kennel cough myself for the last few weeks and I can say yes it does cause diarrhea :D :D ;) not a good combination at all, let me tell you ;) Average duration - I was told about two weeks, which Stella had it for, Tilly for two days. However I quarantined all my dogs for a two weeks period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_meg Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) Ok, so what type of antibiotics do they use for the treatment of kennel cough?2nd question, Do dogs with kennel cough, cough all the time or pretty irregularly? 3rd, Does kennel cough cause diarrhea at all? and lastly, whats the average duration of kennel cough? thanks heaps. I've only had one experience with kennel cough when a foster had it. She was really sick for about four days with it, then coughed on and off for about two weeks with it. I got her antibiotics as she wasn't in that good a condition when she came to me. Sorry can't remember the name of the antibiotics Tilly my golden retreiver caught it from Stella, but as she had been immunised, although about a month overdue, she only had a few coughs on the first day, coughing badly on the second and as right as rain after that. Not sure about diarrhea although I have had something like kennel cough myself for the last few weeks and I can say yes it does cause diarrhea not a good combination at all, let me tell you Average duration - I was told about two weeks, which Stella had it for, Tilly for two days. However I quarantined all my dogs for a two weeks period thanks all. Oberon is on his second lot of antibiotics for a wound. He's lost 1kg in 10 days(though it was a different scale at a different vet), had very little exercise because of his injury, wont eat much and is generally a little quieter(but could be due to confinement). Seems to have lost muscle conditioning, but given he is used to running around everyday and cant i guess thats not surprising. he just started a funny cough last night, but not very often, often enough for me to notice though. Had diarrhea once. but i guess if he has a low grade infection that could make him feel a little off. The coughing is very irregular, probably not something to worry about. Edited February 9, 2011 by pixie_meg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepherds Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 When was he at the vets last for his injury? I only ask as the last time one of my boys had a day trip to the vet - he came home with a little extra gift.....Kennel Cough....which didnt appear until about 5 days after he had spent the day there. Unfortunately in that five days - he had managed to pass it on to the other three residents (who all came down with it one day after the other)...... I was not a happy camper at the time. All four of them got KC to different degrees and cough patterns were different - but in the main - worse first thing in the morning and on exertion or excitement. I understand they are contagious and should be kept away from other animals for 14 days from their last cough.... Hope your boy is fine soon and recovers from the injury quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlygirl Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Did he have surgery for the wound? If he did he would most likely have had an endotracheal tube place into his windpipe (trachea), this sometimes cause irritation and a cough but normally settles in a day or two. The diarrhoea could be due to the antibiotics so perhaps some protexin, inner health plus or natural yoghurt to replace the good bacteria in his gut would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_meg Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Did he have surgery for the wound? If he did he would most likely have had an endotracheal tube place into his windpipe (trachea), this sometimes cause irritation and a cough but normally settles in a day or two. The diarrhoea could be due to the antibiotics so perhaps some protexin, inner health plus or natural yoghurt to replace the good bacteria in his gut would help. i considered tracheal but the surgery was 10 days ago and no sign of issues back then. He was at a dog show 10 days ago so if it turns out to be KC then i'd say its from there. He saw a vet this morning, 10 days ago and 7 days ago. Will give some yoghurt a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Rules Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Active Manuka Honey is great for coughs but even ordinary honey will sooth the throat if you don't have Manuka Honey or Jarrah Honey. A teaspoon every few hours is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 And every time I see benadryl cough mixture I remember when KC used to go thru the kennels- and days would be full of coughing labradors spitting and dribbling benadryl spit everywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 If Obie's immune system has been knocked around, he could have picked up a viral cough. I'd give some honey and just keep an eye on things. A bland diet for a few days will help with the back end but if it continues I'd see a vet. He sounds generally under the weather. Hope he gets better soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowanbree Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I have just had KC go through all my dogs and found Colloidal silver really helped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_meg Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 I have just had KC go through all my dogs and found Colloidal silver really helped Great, i have colloidal silver. Will also use some honey. I'm 95% sure its KC after last night coughing/gagging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayrod Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I have just had KC go through all my dogs and found Colloidal silver really helped Great, i have colloidal silver. Will also use some honey. I'm 95% sure its KC after last night coughing/gagging. Latest Treatment News from USA TREATMENT OF PARVOVIRUS & KENNEL COUGH USING TAMIFLU One of the drugs making a lot of news in the veterinary therapeutic arena right now is TamiFlu (oseltamivir phosphate). This drug, developed by Roche, is used to treat human influenza. In April this year(2010), Dr. Jack Broadhurst published his findings on Veterinary Information Network (VIN), on his use of Tamiflu in the treatment of Parvo in shelter puppies. Because of a limited budget, the shelter was unable to use expensive IV fluids and hospitalization. It was one visit to a veterinarian, SQ fluids and antibiotics and back to the shelter on oral electrolytes and antibiotics. The mortality rate was 75%. When Dr. Broadhurst added Tamiflu orally at 1mg/lb, twice a day; they went from 75% mortality to 100% survival (5). When the powder is reconstituted, you have a suspension of 25ml at 12mg/cc. The amount that is given to a small p uppy, the most common patient, is 0.4 ml for a 10 lb puppy. This amount is so small it usually does not trigger vomiting if given slowly (5). No, there have been no collaborated controlled studies and the purist will question whether the Tamiflu is making any difference. After five months the success rate is in excess of 95%. Try it. You be the judge. I have had some experience with Tamiflu with another disease, which in South Florida, is causing a lot of very sick dogs. The disease is Kennel Cough. I had my bottle of Tamiflu on the shelf in my pharmacy, waiting for the first Parvo case to try it. Before I had the opportunity, I was presented with another situation. One of the greyhound trainers, who I trust, came to me for Doxycline for use in an outbreak of Kennel Cough. I seized the opportunity, as I felt I had nothing to loose but the $35.00 for the cost of the bottle of Tamiflu. I asked her to take her 3 worse dogs and give them Tamiflu at 1mg/kg, twice a day, half the dose used in Parvo. I gave her the medication on Thursday. She started treatment on Friday. On Monday, 4 days after, she was back. The 3 dogs, by Sunday night, had stopped coughing and were doing great. The other dogs showed little or no improvement. She wanted enough for all the dogs. We ordered it and had it the next day. She treated 140 dogs and the outbreak was shortened by 2-3 weeks. Her dogs were back to training, running and winning, some in a matter of days, some within 10 days of the contraction of the disease. Before Tamiflu, it would take 2-3 weeks. Two other greyhound kennels in Alabama and Kansas have had success with the use of Tamiflu in curtailing the outbreak of Kennel Cough. (A total of 282 dogs) Here again, the purist will say that kennel cough manifests itself in various ways and with variation in severity and convalescence. I know this fact only too well, but when you get a clinical response with the use of a product, when the only variable is that product, then I will use that product as long as it does no harm. Tamiflu (oseltamivir phosphate) is a neuraminidase inhibitor. What is neuraminidase? ? It is a protein found on the surface membrane of many viruses and bacteria. Its presence enables the virus to break from the host cell to infect other cells and is required for the virus to pass through mucous to reach non-infected cells. Neuraminidase is also required for a pathogenic bacteria to colonize. In the case of Bordetella bronchoseptica organisms, the major component of Kennel Cough, it has neuraminidase receptors on their cell membranes that enable them to colonize on respiratory epithelial cells. Neuraminidase inhibitors, like Tamiflu, will prevent colonization in the trachea and bronchi. There are 6 possible mechanisms that a neuraminidase inhibitors, such as Tamiflu, may work. Inhibition of viral particles released from infected cells Reduce the ease with which the virus can move to infect adjacent cells Reduce bacteria colonization Reduce the migration of white blood cells, macrophages, from the blood to the infected tissue to create cellular injury Reduce the number of T-Lymphocytes from migrating to the infected tissue creating cellular injury Reduce the role of any bacterial toxins on muscles, blood vessels, lymph nodes, liver, spleen, kidney and trachea (5). The success of Tamiflu depends on the neuraminidase factor. This drug is like using a laser as opposed to most antibiotics, which are like a shot gun A word of caution. Tamiflu does not work on the Distemper virus or other forms of gastroenteritis. By: FERNANDES, PETER T. AARDVARK ANIMAL HOSPITAL 7005 WEST 4 TH AVENUE HIALEAH , FLORIDA 33014 Dr. Fernandes is the past president of the South Florida Veterinary Medical Association and the South Florida Veterinary Foundation, and is a member of the board of the Humane Society of Greater Miami and Pet Rescue. Other links on using Tamiflu to treat Parvovirus: _http://www.marvista_ (http://www.marvista/) vet.com/html/ body_oseltamivir .html _http://en.wikipedia_ (http://en.wikipedia/) .org/wiki/ Tamiflu _http://vettechs._ (http://vettechs./) blogspot. com/2005/ 04/oseltamivir- is-there- new-treatment- for/html _http://www.veterina_ (http://www.veterina/) rypartner. com/Content. plx?P=A&S=0& ;amp;C=0& A=1885 This information is not intended to be used as veterinary advice, nor to replace consultation with a qualified veterinarian. Veterinarians interested in treatment of Parvo with Tamiflu can also contact Dr. Jack Broadhurst, a veterinarian coordinating research into Tamiflu in the treatment of canine parvovirus, kennel cough, feline distemper, and the canine flu, for information on dosages and his research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirst_goldens Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Diarreah does happen - at the kennels when we see dia we alwasy prepare for cough but cough isnt a normal coughing sound it sound like gagging kind of... they cough a few times then gag USUALLY not always Bed rest is the best cure - manuka hu=oney we tried but not much luck but its hard to tell really all dogs are different :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_meg Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 but cough isnt a normal coughing sound it sound like gagging kind of... they cough a few times then gag USUALLY not always thats what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_meg Posted February 12, 2011 Author Share Posted February 12, 2011 Ok, now not sure it was kennel cough. he seems fine now. so how soon after ceasing coughing are they not contagious if it was infact KC. I cant seem to find this info on a google search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowanbree Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 My vet told me a couple of weeks in you want to be certain but 1 week is most likely enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ons Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Ok, now not sure it was kennel cough. he seems fine now. so how soon after ceasing coughing are they not contagious if it was infact KC. I cant seem to find this info on a google search. I'm presuming that he is vacinated, if so it may be how my vacinated girl was, only sick with kennel cough for a couple of days ;) Good he is feeling better I quarantined mine for 2 weeks but not sure if that was overkill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elsaone Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Another question about Kennel Cough I have a shop and I had a lady come in with her dog the other day. The dog coughed once and she told me it had Kennel Cough. She had got the dog from the RSPCA 4 months ago, and it had kennel cough then, but still coughed occasionally. I told her she needed to take it to a vet. My problem is, that I have a 10 week old puppy, who I was wanting to bring to the shop on the odd day for socialisation with people. Now I dont feel that I can take the risk of her contracting it. In the two days since the lady was here, it has been extremely hot, and this morning I mopped out with a Hospital grade disinfectant. Would my pup be at risk still of contracting Kennel Cough? How long would the virus remain in the atmosphere? I have heard that it wont survive without a host and particularly so in heat. Does anyone have any ideas? I love bringing my dogs to work with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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