Nekhbet Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Get rid of the Halti and try one of these: http://www.kumalongshop.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=28They are based in Warriewood and will fit it for you, they're amazing! for a dog that lunges or shows what this dog does ... no. I wouldnt even recommend the halti. Professional trainer would be the first port of call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMAK Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Any more on your dog improvements ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I recognise that dog. He may just be a handful, you have a young, male newly desexed strong dog of a very active breed mix. If he was impounded for 4weeks they really don't have any chance to run off energy there either. 2 weeks in care... well that's often the average trial period and it can take longer than that for issues to show up. Ask for more time to explore your options and take up the rescuer's offer to give some training. Or return him (sorry but sometimes no matter how hard rescue tries, not everyone is a good match with their dog). I may have missed it but how much exercise does he get and are you taking a bouncy energy filled boy straight from the yard to the park prior to exercise? Here are his impound notes with observations from volunteers who spent some time with him. PCC 1248 Benson Lab/Staffy male 12 months :rolleyes: Safe with RescueBenson is your typical wriggly bouncy young dog. Benson was ok on lead to the run and enjoyed some lose lead training. He knows sit, stay, come and likes to shake hands. Benson loved being handled, he is in good condition. Benson interacted well with other dogs in the run. Balls are the best for Benson he is both ball and treat motivated. A people focused character who loves the shell pool, belly rubs and his best volunteer buddy. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee lee Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) This thread is giving me chills. I was in a similar situation to you a few years ago and I wish I had swallowed my sentimentality and fear or judgement and returned the dog. Instead I persevered for 2 years attempting to fix her dog aggression issues before I found the situation untenable & made the decision to have her euthanized. I was not the right owner for her and my biggest regret was that I did not return her in the beginning. She may have subsequently been rehomed to a suitable home with a stronger, more experienced owner & lived a long and happy life. I since have adopted a beautiful GR that has enriched my life in ways I did not realize were possible. She is the right dog for me and my young family. Our last dog was not. Please think carefully about whether you are the best owner for this lovely boy. There is no shame in returning him if you find him too much of a handful. Edited January 23, 2011 by ✽deelee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breezy Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 hi all thanks again for your advice. we took him to the obedience class on sunday only to turn up and find it doesn't start up till feb, which was a bit disappointing. As there was no one around we let him off for a good run and he ran straight into the water and had a good swim, and was well behaved and is starting to respond to his name and our voices, coming back when we called him. We are taking him out twice a day for walks, but practicing in the yard first so he is settled not bounding when we leave home. The times we have encountered other dogs (whilst on the lead) he has been OK, though pulls like mad to get over to them, which is understandable, he is still a pup. We saw a GR this morning and he was absolutely fine, no aggression. I still just dont know if it the desexing had anything to do with it still, seeing as his foster carer, rescuer and pound notes have all said he was ok with other dogs. We're just going to keep taking him out over the next few days and see what happens. He is still absolutely fine and gorgeous at home. thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusky Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 It takes a couple of weeks for a rescue to settle in their new home, often issues can show up that didn't in the the foster home or shelter because you have a new set of people. One thing I stress to people is to form a bond and that doesn't mean being soft and emotional, it means establishing guidelines , manners and getting to know where they are in the new home. I think you are doing a great job and I honestly think you have initially confused aggression with bouncy excitement. The swim is fantastic and good luck with your training classes, lucky dog to find such a great new home ps don't pull back on the halti, it is self correcting, practice at home in the garden so you don't use any pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Please dont let him off lead while you are having issues with him. If he flies up to the wrong dog and owner you could be in a whole lot of strive. I abhor dogs rushing me and my dogs. Good luck with him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 hi all thanks again for your advice.we took him to the obedience class on sunday only to turn up and find it doesn't start up till feb, which was a bit disappointing. As there was no one around we let him off for a good run and he ran straight into the water and had a good swim, and was well behaved and is starting to respond to his name and our voices, coming back when we called him. We are taking him out twice a day for walks, but practicing in the yard first so he is settled not bounding when we leave home. The times we have encountered other dogs (whilst on the lead) he has been OK, though pulls like mad to get over to them, which is understandable, he is still a pup. We saw a GR this morning and he was absolutely fine, no aggression. I still just dont know if it the desexing had anything to do with it still, seeing as his foster carer, rescuer and pound notes have all said he was ok with other dogs. We're just going to keep taking him out over the next few days and see what happens. He is still absolutely fine and gorgeous at home. thanks again I'd suggest you stop thinking of him in those terms. He's mature enough now that no adult dog is going to think he's still on his "puppy license" in terms of behaviour and he could be told in very strong terms to keep his distance. The pulling is probably more about lack of training than age in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I agree with PF. This dog is not a pup it's an uncontrolled adult and treat him as such. You dont give dogs like this once inch, he is perfectly capable of being calm and start expecting it from him. Praise for good behaviour, consequence for not listening to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxx'sBuddy Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 i would be really concerned about letting a dog off leash that had been with me for such a short time a long line would be a better idea if you want to test his recall. i also agree this dog is not a puppy and i am surprised he was re-homed whilst he had those issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Maybe not a puppy, but not really an adult, either. He's just at that age when adult dogs are likely to be outrageously hard on him, and he probably does find self control difficult. But that doesn't mean he can't learn to reign himself in and regulate his excitement somewhat. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsrawesome Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 id recommend you take him back or seek professional help. He might of been fine with his foster carers cause they might have treated him different then you and he might not be used to it. I believe he can be helped with professional help obviously he hasnt been socialised poor thing. Oh about the leash thing what about a head halti with a chain lead? head halti's control the head and because he lunges it might help you hold him back. Hope all works out well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) id recommend you take him back or seek professional help. He might of been fine with his foster carers cause they might have treated him different then you and he might not be used to it. I believe he can be helped with professional help obviously he hasnt been socialised poor thing. Oh about the leash thing what about a head halti with a chain lead? head halti's control the head and because he lunges it might help you hold him back.Hope all works out well Please read the whole thread Dogperson. Head halti's are not a good option for a dog that lunges and chain leads are not particularly helpful for controlling a lunging dog. These topics are discussed in the thread. Edited January 24, 2011 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsrawesome Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 i havent actually had a lunging dog i just thought thats what the head halti's were for? To contol the head so they dont pull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) i havent actually had a lunging dog i just thought thats what the head halti's were for? To contol the head so they dont pull? Yes, but they aren't designed to jerk dogs around on them and a dog that hits the end of a lead wearing one stands a very real chance of causing itself spinal damage. Chain leads are usually quite cheaply manufactured and only as strong as the metal links that make them up. A really good quality leather lead with good fittings is usually better. You don't see police or security dogs worked on chain leads.. its leather all the way. Edited January 24, 2011 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsrawesome Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Chain leads are usually quite cheaply manufactured and only as strong as the metal links that make them up. A really good quality leather lead with good fittings is usually better. You don't see police or security dogs worked on chain leads.. its leather all the way. Thats very true never really thought about that :\ i feel stupid haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Chain leads are usually quite cheaply manufactured and only as strong as the metal links that make them up. A really good quality leather lead with good fittings is usually better. You don't see police or security dogs worked on chain leads.. its leather all the way. Thats very true never really thought about that :\ i feel stupid haha They do "look" strong.. but they're hard to have in your hand and I've seen a few break at the clip. I'd recommend them for a person who has to tie a dog up (say at dog training) when the dog chews through leads but that's about it. Cotton or leather is always better to handle - which no doubt is why reins on horses are rarely made of anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsrawesome Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Cotton or leather is always better to handle I will remember this in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsKatie Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 What about one of these? Black Dog Infin8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 If he was only with his foster carer for 2 weeks, he should certainly not have been in a dog park - he shoudl have been in quarantine. Which rescue group did you get him from??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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